CL fanfiction at FF.net

[knifey offline]

So I've been looking for some good CL fanfictions on FF.net and what do I find? Cr*p. It's just a total cesspool of cr*p. I mean seriously! People should actually proofread and take a look at their spelling and writing style before they post their cr*p.

Here is an example of an ordinary summary on FF.net for a cr*p story (might be a little exaggerated):

code: love
someone new joins the gang. what happens. fluffy. first fic =D DONT HURT ME. plese revew. YU JA OL. (L is for Lisa which is my caracter) I stink at summeries but story is good

*Eyeroll* 10 bucks that everyone hooks up and XANA gets destroyed because Jeremie found Aelita's antivirus (despite the fact she doesn't have a virus). And since she doesn't have a virus this story is forced to be an AU which a lot of good writers/reviewers rather dislike.

1) Spelling and grammer. If you've got serious spelling and grammer problems then I doubt the story is any good.

2) Plot. *Sarcastically* Nope, no one ever used this plot before. I bet this will be one of the most original storylines I've ever seen *end sarcasm*.Use original plots people! The only time I will make an exception for cliche plots is if the writer is doing it to see if he/she is any good at writing.

4) Reviews. I take a look at the reviews, hoping to see some constructive criticism, but no. I find reviews that say "I likey CTS OR ILL KILL U!!!!!1111!!1", but the exclamation marks/1's are a lot longer. If reviewers give stupid reviews, such as the one I used as an example, then the reviewer is obviously no good when it comes to reading good strories.

5) OC/ACC's. Taking a look at the summary just instantly tells you, "This OC/ACC is a Mary Sue". There are more than enough background characters in Code Lyoko to put in your story without making an OC/ACC.

6) Summaries. If the summary sucks, then the story is more then likely to suck as well.

7) Detail (assuming one has read the story this summary would lead to). (the following statement in red was created by theothersin at http://www.fullmetal-alchemist.com/index.php ) People just don't sit, and do nothing else, talk and do nothing else, or think and do nothing else. The human body can do many, many things at once, so describing what going on whille sometihng else is happening can print a clearer image in the readers mind. Colors, textures, smells, sounds, all those things can make a story come to life. That is more then enough to go on about detail.

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8. OOC. What really p**ses me off is when some authors would say "Its a fanfiction so I can do whatever I want with the story". Thats great. Do what you want, but what good is it if the characters aren't believably IC. I can write a story about Ulrich getting a clown suit, jumping around Kadic, while singing the ABC's, but would it be believable? NO. If someone posts a story without giving a cr*p OOCness, mostly by not fixing anything or not using the concrit as a tool in the future, they create their own character but use the pre-existing shells of characters because they are too lazy to make their own. Same thing can been see for AU's sometimes.
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I know it sounds corny, but a group of reviewers should go on the site and give constructive criticism to the stories, or else the cr*p stories will just keep on coming until the point you have 1/100 good stories on that site. This also goes for most of FF.net not just the CL section.

For example: On a Full-Metal Alchemist forum, the fanfic part of the forum was very clean and tidy because of reviewers who gave constructive criticism to any bad story that came along (unfortunately most of the reviewers have been away for quite some time so some cr*p stories are starting to pile up).

I know this site has a fanfic section, but in my opinion some of the people on FF.net should get a smack in the face type of thing if they think their stories are any good.

[Alpha-13 offline]

Hm. I always wanted to put my 2 best 'fics on there myself, I just never got around to it.

[Metrion offline]

Just look for stories under the name 'Limited Heart.' She does fantastic Code Lyoko fanfiction.

[knifey offline]

Yes, I often do that. But, unfortunately, I can only see so many stories if I do that. The same goes for C2 communities. And a fat lot of people on the site suck at writing but think they're good. I'm thinking of reviewing a lot of stories to reduce the amount of bad income (but that would chew up a lot of my free time).

It sometimes amazes me how people can so egotistical and overconfident.

[Alpha-13 offline]

I offer up my Yumi and Ulrich Story in my sig to be read. I like it, and when over 21k views a CL.com I gotta be doing something right.

[. offline]

A Knifeshock, you never found my Monolithic Baby! story have you? Give that a read, it's probbly the most edgey thing on there.

[knifey offline]

*sigh* I appreciate you guys trying to show me your fanfics, but this topic was supposed to be in "rant" (I accidently posted it in "general discussion" before it was moved here), and I'm complaining about the fact that there are so many cr*p authors on FF.net. Don't get me wrong, there are some good writers out there, but there are so many bad ones out there that finding a good story on FF.net is like finding a needle in a haystack (or, at least, it will be soon).

[. offline]

*sigh* I appreciate you guys trying to show me your fanfics, but this topic was supposed to be in "rant" (the mods didn't move it yet), and I'm complaining about the fact that there are so many cr*p authors on FF.net. Don't get me wrong, there are some good writers out there, but there are so many bad ones out there that finding a good story on FF.net is like finding a needle in a haystack (or, at least, it will be soon).

Knife, what did you expect? The Godfather or something? Most of thoes authors are preteens with eassily amused minds.

[MY85 offline]

Knife, what did you expect? The Godfather or something? Most of thoes authors are preteens with eassily amused minds.

Knife, maybe you could try checking out Recomended Fanfics at the FanFiction thread.

And I could say one question on this thread: is it unfair to flame a person for a bad fic if you never done any fanfic in your life?

[knifey offline]

And I could say one question on this thread: is it unfair to flame a person for a bad fic if you never done any fanfic in your life?

*urge to be a total smart@$$ rising, must resist*

Yes. It is rude. But I think the first post on this topic would not qualify as a flame, but as *clears throat* harsh constructive criticism.

Knife, maybe you could try checking out Recomended Fanfics at the FanFiction thread.

I have seen it, but in my intro to this forum I stated (not exactly like the following) that my expectations for fanfiction may match those of a critic.

[Carth]

I agree. When I first came to that fanfic section, looking for a good read, I got to the tenth summary before I went insane.

That, people, is the sad sad truth of my life.

There are some jaw-droppers there. (XANA Induced Sugar Highs For Dummies-that is some genius insanity.). But nobody can be perfect. Don't forget this. But of course, there are instances where it gets ridiculous. That's bad.

People, if you just pass over them, they'll keep coming. If all they get is 'guuud write more', they'll actually THINK they're perfect, and put out more junk. Educate these people. Give them tips. They'll thank you for it.

Or they could wage an all out flamewar on your stories. (Ur storie sux cuz ur meen! etc.) Depends on your luck. But mostly, they'll take it.

*sigh* I appreciate you guys trying to show me your fanfics, but this topic was supposed to be in "rant" (the mods didn't move it yet), and I'm complaining about the fact that there are so many cr*p authors on FF.net. Don't get me wrong, there are some good writers out there, but there are so many bad ones out there that finding a good story on FF.net is like finding a needle in a haystack (or, at least, it will be soon).

Knife, what did you expect? The Godfather or something? Most of thoes authors are preteens with eassily amused minds.

Agreed. I'm a preteen girl myself, with about 55 other preteens in my class. None of them write fic about or have even seen Code Lyoko (with the exception of me, and I think there's a boy who watches it, but he's an OK writer), but that has little to nothing to do with it. The girls' idea of 'creative writing' is to grab the nearest available peice of looseleaf, take their many colored pens, write someone's name on it in excellent calligraphy, and write comments like 'you go girl!' and 'putnamehere rox!'. The boys, forget it. The only time I've ever seen them write something more then two sentences long is in school reports, and while there are some gems, most of it is a paragraph of chatter with big type and pictures to make it seem a page long.

Point is, these guys are just stepping in. Don't come down too hard on them-just apply construction gently.

[Insanity Hero offline]

I believe the authors your ranting about should check out this site.

http://www.englishchick.com/badfic/

It might give them an idea on what bad fanfic is all about. And it might help them improve their "lost" fanfics.

[Jellybean <33 offline]

The Code Lyoko fandom is dominated by young idiots who cannot capture the characters put before them, so instead they create their own. They lack creativity, and in turn put everything they desire to be into their OC, unconciously making he or she a sickeningly flawless Mary Sue.

Insert from Wikipedia articals:

Fan fiction (also spelled fanfiction and commonly abbreviated to fanfic or fic when used in a singular sense) is fiction written by people who enjoy a film, novel, television show or other media work, using the characters and situations developed in it and developing new plots in which to use these characters.

Point made. It's really hard to come (haha I said come *dead*) across descent Code Lyoko fanfiction, and even so, some people are sick of UlrichYumi, JeremieAelita, and OddSamantha, and want to get outside the cannon box, which is even more difficult.

[Tekirai offline]

FF.net crud stories? been there, done that.

some of fics there are just...ugh, terrifying. they make me want to throw the author in a blender and set it on fire. the amount of people these days that spell the characters' names wrong, ANYTHING wrong, write everything in one big block or just finish another person's story freely is increasing like the amount of crumbs on a bread board.

it's mostly stories that have an ACC in them that are way overdone. thought I have to admit to doing one myself in a different style and that there are some excellent stories out there with it. (lyokolady and G-Force 4 to name some) and then comes along speed and grammar/spelling. I think this short 'tale' sums those two up.

It was a sunny day at Kadic. Breakfast was eggs and bacon.

'Hi Ulrich!' said Yumi.

'Hi Yumi!' said Ulrich.

'I LOVE YOU.'

'I LOVE YOU TWO.'

They both kissed passhonatley and then they got married shortly afterwrads. They had a little boy named Bob and a little girl named Sandwich.

And they lived happily ever after.

The end. REVIEW PLZ!

well, maybe not that stupid, but you should catch my drift.

on a side note: Carth_upon_a_star, I'm very flattered. :3 thank you.

[Insanity Hero offline]

Oh I've seen fanfic that makes me want to pull my hair out. Some of them either don't make sense, have random cr*p in it, or the person doesn't know how to write.
My least favorite is when a character dies all of a sudden with no reason. Just random non-sense. Now I'm know for some of my humor fics and having random stuff but at least I put a little detail in it. Not just saying

And everything was fine in the world. We see Odd and Ulrich in their rooms. Suddenly a gun fires and Odd is dead.

Ok so maybe I went a little overboard on that but I've seen fics like that. Oh and don't you love it when the authors does this?

I won't update until I have at least 12 reviews. And they better not be flame!

I made an oath to never use that saying in my fics. I don't beg for reviews. It just makes me mad when I see authors using that. Well I'm done with my ranting. Cheers to everyone!

[Carth]

FF.net crud stories? been there, done that.

some of fics there are just...ugh, terrifying. they make me want to throw the author in a blender and set it on fire. the amount of people these days that spell the characters' names wrong, ANYTHING wrong, write everything in one big block or just finish another person's story freely is increasing like the amount of crumbs on a bread board.

it's mostly stories that have an ACC in them that are way overdone. thought I have to admit to doing one myself in a different style and that there are some excellent stories out there with it. (lyokolady and G-Force 4 to name some) and then comes along speed and grammar/spelling. I think this short 'tale' sums those two up.

It was a sunny day at Kadic. Breakfast was eggs and bacon.

'Hi Ulrich!' said Yumi.

'Hi Yumi!' said Ulrich.

'I LOVE YOU.'

'I LOVE YOU TWO.'

They both kissed passhonatley and then they got married shortly afterwrads. They had a little boy named Bob and a little girl named Sandwich.

And they lived happily ever after.

The end. REVIEW PLZ!

well, maybe not that stupid, but you should catch my drift.

on a side note: Carth_upon_a_star, I'm very flattered. :3 thank you.

Kinda guessed who you were ^^

[4lpha0mega offline]

The Code Lyoko fandom is dominated by young idiots who cannot capture the characters put before them, so instead they create their own. They lack creativity, and in turn put everything they desire to be into their OC, unconciously making he or she a sickeningly flawless Mary Sue.

Yeah, i hate it when they do this as it doesnt make the story good, it just makes the author feel good,
Although what i hate more in Fanfics is when the "good guys" win easily against near-impossible odds, i dont think i've seen a single pyrrhic victory...

[Jellybean <33 offline]

The Code Lyoko fandom is dominated by young idiots who cannot capture the characters put before them, so instead they create their own. They lack creativity, and in turn put everything they desire to be into their OC, unconciously making he or she a sickeningly flawless Mary Sue.

Yeah, i hate it when they do this as it doesnt make the story good, it just makes the author feel good,
Although what i hate more in Fanfics is when the "good guys" win easily against near-impossible odds, i dont think i've seen a single pyrrhic victory...

I kill off my characters in certain insanely dire situations, makes the reader feel disturbed and empty, and if they do win in really bad times, I draw it out over more than a single chapter and have the characters lose friends, senses, or limbs. Suffering is inevitable in war.

[G-Force offline]

First off, thanks Tekirai for the compliment. Short sweet and the kind of stuff that makes my day.

Alright, at the risk of ruffling some feathers I'm going to share with you a special link on my website. This is my disclaimer. The article below are my personal beliefs on how to write fanfiction and what are th most common problems are. I no way shape or for am I proclaiming myself to be the "King of Fanfics" nor do I state that my words are absolute law.

http://www.freewebs.com/jinishiyama/articles.htm

[Insanity Hero offline]

I agree with your list there G-Force *no I'm not trying to bubble up* The one rule that I really agree on is the space's. There are some fics that I don't bother reading because like you stated it's not that it's bad. It just to bunched up that it makes it hard to read. There are sometimes when the summary seems really good that I can't wait to read it only to find out that the person didn't space it out.

[G-Force offline]

Bad writing aside, the one thing that really just baffles me is how often authors love to "tweak" Yumi's characterization just so that their story can work, this applies for many of the fics that go...

Yumi has an abusive boyfriend. Can she be saved?

Ok, aside from the fact that Yumi is definately the type of person who would not even put up with something like that, her characterization is further buterized with dialogue and scenes where she goes "Ulrich save me!" or moments where she's slapped around and does nothing else but cry.

What really amazes me is that authors of these stories completely ignore the fact that Yumi is a very talented and skilled fighter both on and off Lyoko. If some jerk did try to take control of her and went as far as slapping her on the show, the poor sucker would be nursing a black eye and a broken arm. Yumi is no damsel in distress that needs to be rescued, sure she needs her emotional support here and there but who doesn't. There's a fine line of having a character needing a shoulder to cry on now and then and just being an emotional pathetic wreck 24/7. Too bad some authors can't make that distinction.

[Ulrich Stern. offline]

Bad writing aside, the one thing that really just baffles me is how often authors love to "tweak" Yumi's characterization just so that their story can work, this applies for many of the fics that go...

Yumi has an abusive boyfriend. Can she be saved?

Ok, aside from the fact that Yumi is definately the type of person who would not even put up with something like that, her characterization is further buterized with dialogue and scenes where she goes "Ulrich save me!" or moments where she's slapped around and does nothing else but cry.

What really amazes me is that authors of these stories completely ignore the fact that Yumi is a very talented and skilled fighter both on and off Lyoko. If some jerk did try to take control of her and went as far as slapping her on the show, the poor sucker would be nursing a black eye and a broken arm. Yumi is no damsel in distress that needs to be rescued, sure she needs her emotional support here and there but who doesn't. There's a fine line of having a character needing a shoulder to cry on now and then and just being an emotional pathetic wreck 24/7. Too bad some authors can't make that distinction.

ROFL. A black eye! That's so true! Yea, I;ve seen a ton of stories that are just no good. The writer will try to capture the characters personalities, but just isn't able to. Then there are those stories where the writer places themself with the CL gang and gives themself better abilities then what the others have. Or even the stories where they rush and don't describe enough about what's going on and are always in a different place at once. *Sigh* Just not many good writers out there anymore I guess.

[Pika53 offline]

These are all really good points and I agree with them. In my own limited experience at ff.net I've found many stories that have struck in a similar manner to what you all have described, and in turn was not interested to read. In my own fanfic, I will admit that the story has some flaws, but I'm currently working on fixing those.

Out of curiosity however, can anyone critique the summery I created for my fanfic
and PM me with corrective suggestions for it if needed? If so, I'd really appreciate it.

[Grand_Commander13 offline]

Can't help you with the summary. My summary sucks too. I'm not sure about the title either... At least the story itself is good, though I'm working on my style (I'm only one chapter in, but I see what I need to fix). Go ahead and check my fanfic (it's linked to in the fanfic forum) if you care. I always love people who are hard on stories to give me an idea of what I'm doing poorly and well.

As for CL FF in general, I've pretty much given up on finding good fanfiction to read. Half of them are romances (which I categorically refuse to read), and the other half just don't seem to get my motor running. I did read one neat one, and was distraught that XANA was using an effect very similar to what he'd end up using in my fic (though, of course, the technobabble explaining it is totally different ).