rituals.

[jayde_child offline]

I have a really big problem and I was wondering if you guys can give me some advice.

I have been doing some rituals whenever I am depressed or angered at someone.
It's not like a little chant, it's like with candles, roses, and insect buring ect.
I only told one of my friends and (it isnt kim that I told) kim if you are reading this, i forgot to tell you.
Well she (the friend i told, not kim) said I need to stop because its not normal. I know this but when I am angered at someone I just want to get total revenge on them. I either use curse rituals, or for me like a soul cleansing ritual. I have never used a ritual for greed or luck. I just really sometimes hate people so much and how I can't do anything about it. So has anyone got any helpful advice.
Oh and I've started doing this near the beggining of sept. I've only done 9 rituals ever since but i'm afraid I'll keep doing it.

[LadyLucy offline]

that's normal!! that is...
What's your religion?

[jayde_child offline]

umm....it may be a suprise...but....








I'm a christian

[LadyLucy offline]

ohhhh... well...oh darn. We wiccans do rituals all the time, and it's fine...and I don't think you doing rituals is unnormal.... if it keeps you calm, it's fine. ^^

[jayde_child offline]

But it's like extreme rituals like with your blood and hair and stuff like that.....

[SnIp3r_WoLf offline]

You know it's not good to keep secrets from your best friends.

But I'm not really sure what to tell you since I've never done a ritual before. But like Lucy said, if it keeps you happy, then do whatever you want. Just make sure not to die of blood loss doing your rituals. And make sure not to target me.

[Gauntlet offline]

But it's like extreme rituals like with your blood and hair and stuff like that.....

Not trying to attack you or anything...but what's the point of hurting yourself for revenge, or further hurting yourself to "cleanse your soul"? I hold no grudges against anyone of race or religion, but once you start hurting yourself, that's when it gets too out of control.

I don't read the Bible, I've only been to a Church once or twice, and I can't say it was the best experience. Those candles and singers and extra babble just isn't my cup of coffee. But after reading some more into the Bible (namely off internet pages), I've come to understand the message of God.

Without sounding like a Bible-thumper--which I'm not--, just stop the rituals. If they're not extreme, like hurting yourself or anyone around you, yeah, alright, go ahead.

I do realize not everyone here believes in God, or may not be that into Christianity, let alone any other religion, but as far as I know, suicide is not something too big in religions. Doesn't matter if you die, or just hurt yourself on purpose, its not the best thing to do.

I'm not trying to push Christianity, or the message of God into anyone's throat, I'm merely just stating what I feel. My advice would be seek counseling. Maybe leave out the tidbit of rituals, but the general things such as anger, hate, and revenge would be important to explain to a counselor. I do think its good to express your feelings, good and bad, but once you start hurting others (most importantly, yourself), I think that's when the line has been crossed.

My two cents.

Edit: I wanted to add, I'm really in no position to judge you, or assume that whatever your problems are. I've known people who say they do this, but just for the attention it draws. Then there are some who honestly do it, and just need a listening ear. I'm going to assume the latter is the current issue, and that is all.

If you need someone to talk to, don't hesitate to PM me. My AIM is under my profile as well, if you wish to use that instead.

[jayde_child offline]

Im not doing this for the attention. But really my life is compliated. But doing rituals just makes me feel better because it's like the only revenge that I can get on someone. I dunno Im really confused right now.....I just think that they deserve it.

[. offline]

"Revenge is never a straight line. It's a forest, And like a forest it's easy to lose your way... To get lost... To forget where you came in."-Hattori Hanzo

[Ulrich's lil bro offline]

Rituals huh. Well, that's kind of a different topic. Seems like your getting addicted. Is that what you're afraid of? Um, if so, you have to just naturally stop and turn to another solution other than the rituals.

But, I have to ask. Have any of your rituals actually worked? And in what ways?

I've never been one to believe in things like rituals but I still get spooked out.

[jayde_child offline]

Once i did this one ritual to curse this guy that I hated because he was was really mean to me and everyone. I hated him most because he "accidentally" spilled a slushie drink on my pants and made a giant wet mark. He himself an other people laughed at me but i just tried to keep my cool. I had slushie all over my pants for the rest of school.

4 days after I did a ritual to curse him, he broke his leg badly. He now has to get a surgery

[Ulrich's lil bro offline]

What a bastard! I think that was some nice payback. a little ahem, i gotta admit, a little bit of it was deserved. But, wow, he actually had to get surgery... that's different.

Well, I can see that this is potentially dangerous, depending on who your target is. But, do you have any control whatsoever of what happens after you do the ritual?

[. offline]

Once i did this one ritual to curse this guy that I hated because he was was really mean to me and everyone. I hated him most because he "accidentally" spilled a slushie drink on my pants and made a giant wet mark. He himself an other people laughed at me but i just tried to keep my cool. I had slushie all over my pants for the rest of school.

4 days after I did a ritual to curse him, he broke his leg badly. He now has to get a surgery

It could... ya know... just be Karma. no a curse.

[Gauntlet offline]

Im not doing this for the attention. But really my life is compliated. But doing rituals just makes me feel better because it's like the only revenge that I can get on someone. I dunno Im really confused right now.....I just think that they deserve it.

I don't want to sound blunt, but I think everyone's life is a little complicated, just depends on how you view it. Yes, some cases are more extreme than others (namely the slushi incident), but it sounds a little bit melodramatic. Like I said, if you need an ear to talk to, I'm here.

And as for revenge, I don't think anyone deserves to suffer, to suffer intentionally, that is. Some people, like Hitler and the like, do seem to deserve the death sentence, but I don't think we're supposed to decide who stays and who goes.

This is very debatable, and I could easily get ahead of myself and make this into a five page essay, but I'll stop right here.

I hope things go well for you tomorrow.

[TB3]

Like the others here Jayde, I'm hoping things work out for you.

As for the rituals themselves, I'm not so sure...maybe I'm closed minded, but to me asking paranormal forces to hurt people sounds a little...dangerous. You might be dealing with powers beyond your control, and like you yourself say, you don't want to get addicted (more on that later).

I'm not a bible-thumper, so to express myself I'll quote one of our ages most respected sages...Gandalf!

"Do not be so hasty to deal out Death and Judgement"

I personally feel it's better to weather these kind of people rather than wish ill back on them...I tried hating people for a while and it didn't work...I eventually took comfort in being better than them for not reacting, and sought comfort with my friends and loved ones - I feel much the better for it.

As for the addiction business, I recently saw a good anime called 'Death Note' where a normal teen gains the ability to kill anyone he wants, anywhere in the world.

At first he starts knocking off human scum - criminals, rapists etc...from his perspective he was delivering 'Judgement' even though most of the people he killed were already in prison atoneing for their crimes.

Very quickly the power gives said person a God Complex and he starts using it to bump off people who haven't done any crimes, but who have annoyed him, or gotten in the way of his crusade, and quickly he becomes the thing he despised, the sociopathic murderer, killing on a whim.

Thus, when we feel we have power over others (be it from curses, blackmail or whatnot), we can very quickly loose touch on both our sense of reality, and also ourselves.

My advice for you Jayde, is to let this whole curse business go - even if people have hurt you, it's better to seek aid on the human level rather than the supernatural, and also maybe to take some comfort in Divine Justice, or Karma, or Yin and Yang (the same concept has many names) eventually delivering you good for the ill you endure now.

And finally, if you need someone to talk to when you feel down, my PM Inbox is always open to you - I promise I won't ridicule or tease you.

Kick this habit kiddo, and I'm sure you'll be happier for it - and don't let the bastards grind you down!

TB3

[Overcaffeinated Sloth offline]

Well, I unerstand. I have a similar process, but it's got a bit more to do with the science of the brain.

You see, that whole deep breathing thing does work. I spend a lot of time organizing my thoughts, and whenever I seriously need to think about tomething, I launch myself into a hypnosis. That way, I can both argue with myself and go about my day npormally.

And what makes it better is it's s liscenced therapy, proven to work!

[Evil Ulrich offline]

Well i'm christain, but I have no clue about the ritauls.

[Jeremified offline]

umm....it may be a suprise...but....








I'm a christian

Welcome to the club! By the way, I'm sure I could find you some Bible quote about the evils of rituals, but I've only got about 25 minutes left to be on the computer, and I'm sick ( ) so I'm slower than usual.

[Lola offline]

TB3 here - not to sound rude but I removed this post because well...it wasn't helping anyone.

If BBofC or Lola have a problem with this please contact me - I have the original post saved if they need it.

[TB3]

Guys, just a point - I know we have our own religious views on subjects like this but I think Jayde is looking for practical help rather than 'hellfire and brimstone' Biblical quotes and attitudes, hence why I edited BBofC's little post above.

Also, I don't agree with his habit of suggesting responding to issues with violence, just to clarify my stance on such 'advice'.

Again Jayde, if you need someone to talk to or some help, we're here.

[jayde_child offline]

Um...TB3. Can I see what BBoC said. I wasnt here to see it.

[Lola offline]

Ya I asked Nick to take a look here because I didn't know what to think or say and he was kind of angry at you jayde_child and he gave advice it just had a really angry tone to it. Im not gonna say anymore. and tb3 please be nice to Nick at least for me. please and thank you.

[jayde_child offline]

I am starting to stop.

I am deciding just to take watever crap people give me. No matter how bad it is. I will just have to accept that this is life, and it can either get better or worse. For me, it just mostly gets worse.

[Lola offline]

That's good. But maybe you don't have to take it. Why not stick up for yourself in school when it happens? its stupid that it has to work like this but people respect shows of strength and courageousness

[mooshie offline]

just one thing, anger in itself isn't that bad, it's how the anger is or isn't released, I have a lot of experience with bottling up anger and it's not too pleasant, take up martial arts or something to release your anger in a constructive way rather than hurting yourself, someone else, or both, or you can totally ignore and do what whatever you want