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[Skipperdee offline]

That's really interesting... wow. I would've never noticed that.

Is it just me or do the two F's not really look like F's? The first looks like an L and the second a J, neither of which is written terribly similarly in cursive. It could all be a personal thing, of course.

[Lani offline]

That's a G major chord, on a staff for C major?! But that does make sense, if the piece is in the development, oftentimes the piece will go a fifth above, and G is a fifth above C. And now I will shut up and go back on topic.

Maybe! There was an original Franz Hopper, but he was killed by the present Franz Hopper in order to escape project Carthage that was chasing him, and under a disguise as well. Then that leads me to ask... who is that Waldo Schaeffer man?! Because he must've been a really close bud to Sir Hopper if he was also in Carthage project with him, knew him when he and his wife were just married and she was pregnant, and especially in 1994, when they were living in the Hermitage hiding from Government d00dz. Perhaps Franz Hopper's real name is Waldo Schaeffer?

Far-fetched but just an idea

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[Carth]

Hm...there's something that interests me. The one on top, the 'real' one (according to TB3), is the one that Jer got off RA. The school one is on the bottom, the 'fake'.

...I have a bunch of ideas about how this could come together...but none of them fit.

[oddsgrlfriend offline]

Now, as I'm sure we all know from experience, everyone tends towards a specific handwriting - after drawing the two signitures I tried writing them and the first signiture came easily, it fitted my style - the second felt completely 'wrong' and I actually found I was instinctively writing it differently on several occasions i.e. interlinking the letters 'opper' - this is by no means conclusive, but it suggests to me that these are not two varieties drawn by one person, but two attempts at the same signiture by different people.

That causes us to wonder why someone would try to forge Franz's signature. Perhaps some one had found out about Lyoko?

[Taelia offline]

Hmmm...if that's the case, who could that somebody be?

[animenologist offline]

Kinda brings up an interesting question than. TB3 states that the signatures bear some uniqueness to the point where it conclusively must be from different people. At the same time, Jeremie's analysis in Unchartered Territory was that they were the same. It was that conclusion where he came to believe that the science teacher, Franz Hopper, and the owner of the Hermitage, Franz Hopper, are one in the same person. Of course this could mean multiple things.

One is that Jeremie is wrong, and TB3 is right. That the two individuals are potentially different and one of them forged the signature. This can lead to possible plot revelations further down the line, including TB3's original Waldo Schaeffer theory. And it wouldn't be the first time we found Jeremie to be wrong (Aelita's virus, the 2 senses thing, Marabounta, what would happen to a pixelized person in the prescence of an EMP). He is human after all, even if he is a genius.

That TB3 is wrong, and Jeremie is right. Though they bear some differences, and TB3 does have some experience with this, is TB3 a professional graphologist? Its possible that a graphologist may see some similarity in the writing that TB3 doesn't.

Also there is the possibility that it just may be different due the circumstances of the signing. For instance, around 10th grade, I had an accident with my left hand, which rendered it useless for almost a year. Problems were compounded, because I was a lefty, and had to basically reteach myself to write, with my right hand. Now if you checked my signatures prior to the accident, and up to one year after, you'd probably not recognize they are from the same person. About 2 years after, I regained control of my left hand (to an extent) and re-taught myself how to write as a lefty. So now, depending on the mood I'm in, I sign with either my left or my right, and that causes some differences in my signature. Of course, this would render both conclusions incorrect, that the signatures are from different people (as stated by TB3) and that the signatures are exactly the same (as stated by Jeremie).

Last, it could be an animation error. It's perfectly plausible that while animating that particular scene, they just screwed up. It happens from time to time (like Jeremie having multiple scooters, a boy in the girl's bathroom, people being where they're not supposed to be). Maybe, through our suspension of disbelief, we are supposed to believe that the signatures are from one and the same person, and that they are similar enough to be "exactly the same". After all, cartoons are mostly about suspending our disbelief to an extent.

Just a few thoughts.

[TB3]

As ever Animenologist, a wonderful analysis - the LTT lull has clearly not blunted your skills

I still feel an error of this magnitude is unlikely - though I just checked back on the episode and he did say the signitures match as opposed to the names - it's possible though that Jeremie was matching the name of the signatory, which is usually printed on the bottom of deeds and documents requiring a signiture.

And er nope, I'm no graphologist - it just raised my suspicions, coupled with the fact that aside from the episode, we never see any evidence of Franz working at Kadic, and there's the old query of why none of the staff remember Franz, specifically his daughter - pink hair isn't very common after all...

Well, I look forward to if S3 resolves any of this

[Taelia offline]

What I like most about Jim, besides having David Gasman doing his voice, is that he has softened up considerably since the first season finale despite having occasionally "bossy and mean" moments in the second season. He shows a strong fatherly bond to the students at Kadic and can be a very nice man. His strict attitude, however, is what got him sacked from his 20-year career in "Code: Earth", and he helped beat XANA and save the world!

[Lyoko SA80 offline]

jim is a muti tanleted action man with a soft centre lol.He has a cool side also.

[Taelia offline]

Let's not forget, he got fired from his 20-year career once.

[Cassius335 offline]

Let's not forget, he got fired from his 20-year career once.

Redundant timeline; doesn't count.

[Taelia offline]

Awww man!

Plus, I do wanna add some other things about Jimbo. When I started watching the first season episodes, like when Jim ordered Jeremie, Odd, and Ulrich back to their rooms (and glared at them with an angry grunt) in "Rock Bottom", I was like, "UGH! No one even wants to come within 5 feet of this guy! He is such a nasty!" But when I saw "Code: Earth" and (most of) "False Start", I smiled and said to myself "Much better!".

Back when I was in junior high, I had some strict, cruel, and uncaring teachers, like how Jim was. They never learned how to show love to people like me.

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Sam sure was awesome in Final Round! She can do some mean skateboarding tricks!

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Is Ulrich from a wealthy family? I saw his character description on codelyoko.fr ("Fils unique de parents assez riches qu'il voit très peu.") but I'm still uncertain if this is a true statement.

[Mewberries151]

*bumping this since this new info doesn't really merit a new topic, and because this is a good topic for character chatting period*

Apparently, the scoop on Yumi's mother's name is out. We heard her father given the name "Takeo" in an episode of CL, and now, CL writer, Ms. Sophie Decroisette, has given us the name of Yumi's mom.

It's "Akiko".

Reference link can be found here.

[Taelia offline]

Ah, Akiko. Lovely name! Translates from Japanese as either "bright sparkle" or "autumn child".

Oh, and that Jim's fourty and Jean-Pierre's fifty. I knew it! I absolutely knew it!

[Writing_Addict offline]

Wow...older than..*cough* that doesn't need to be mentioned...But wait, Jim can't be forty. In "Double Trouble" (at least I think) he said he had to develop the pictures while bombs were falling. If he's talking about World war 2, he has to be 90 something already. I doubt Iraq develops pictures while in war.

Alas, I don't know much about France (Or Europe) I knew that had some kind of fight with some country or town or whatever...but wasn't that a long time ago?

I need to brush up on my history don't I?

[Taelia offline]

O.o I don't think he's that old. Let's ask David Gasman himself when he signs on again.

[FènéethxAelita offline]

I think that refered to the Vietnam war.

[Writing_Addict offline]

*shrugs* Like I keep track of that stuff anyway...

Mr. Delmas looks younger...but I'll stop pointing out stuff like that...

[knifey offline]

Bumped because I'd like to see if anyone has an essay for Yumi.

So... would anyone happen to have any lengthy and detailed thoughts about Yumi Ishiyama?

[Taelia offline]

No.

I sure wish there was for all the characters.

[Lyoko SA80 offline]

Ok this is sounding good so tell me if I'm right yumi (Beauty/bow) mum is Akiko (autum child) so she must of been born in the autum (Like me ).

[Mewberries151]

Ok this is sounding good so tell me if I'm right yumi (Beauty/bow) mum is Akiko (autum child) so she must of been born in the autum (Like me ).

Well, I wouldn't know if she was born in "Autumn" persay...although that's pretty good conjecture. *nods*

But yes, Yumi means "Bow" or "Beauty" and Akiko means "Autumn Child" or "Bright Child".

Her father's name, Takeo, means "Warrior", I believe too. ^^

...Which might explain the samurai armor they've got in their house. ;D


Hiroki means "Abundant Joy/Strength".

[Taelia offline]

Which explains the adorable cuteness that is Hiroki. =D

[MY85 offline]

Hiroki means "Abundant Joy/Strength".

That's funny. Hiroki's all the opposite, an abundant disgrace and a weak being. I could care less if he dies on the show.