Season 4 Discussion (Final Episodes now Online)

[JesusFreak offline]

*shudder* I can see it now

Ulrich and Yumi's kid: Nathan

Appearance: Ninja
Weapons: 15 ninja stars, Sharpened bo staff
Emo? Yes.
Quote: "YOU SHALL FALL DARK ONE!"

Jeremie and Aelita's Progeny: Marilyn

Appearance: Seraphim
Weapon: none. Tower deactivator. Eventually learns how to modify gravity from the ressurected Skippy
Emo? no
Quote "Daddy! Heeeelp!"


Jeremie and Aelita'ssecond kid: Matthew
Operator
Emo? Sort of. Jer blames Nathan.

Odd.
(updated) Appearance :Tiger
Weapons : Lazer Arrows and claws. Learns Hadoken from Jose the magic Kankrelot
Emo? guess
Quote: "mess with the best, die like, uh, me on a math test."

Nathan's pal: Johann
Appearance: Cyborg
weapons: Shruiken toaster and laser cannons.
Emo? Yes
Quote: "whatever"

Marilyn's love interest: Seth Murrano
Appearance: Archangel
Weapon: Huge Katana
Emo? no
Quote "We shall prevail"

Nathan's love interest: Sandra Jericho
Appearance: Geisha
weapon: Throwing daggers
EMo? Is that even possible for a girl?


Enemy dude:

Maximillian
Reason why evil: Last of Xana's source code infected him
Weapons: all of the heroes
Emo? Sort of
Quote "YARRR!"



Bio:
20 years after the end of season 4, the supercompy is made public. A mild mannered, rather mousy, computer geek named Maximillian was sent by the government to investigate. When He turns it on, he accidentally put his handin the contact of the power source. Next night, max Declares his own empire and the government is forced to create a Skid-esque Warship piloted by the Gang and their Kids to defeat a new army...stupidity ensues.

[Carth]

...where the hell'd Maximilian come from?

Okay sounding fanfic. Terrible sounding show. D:

[JesusFreak offline]

exactly. Maxxy would be some nerdy government fiile clerk. Yeah, It'd stink. See how it could turn out?

I wouldlike to See Jose the Magic Kankrelot, however. I can see him pouring a cup of mini tea...with those stubby legs .

[timekitten offline]

Maximillian
Reason why evil: Last of Xana's source code infected him
Weapons: all of the heroes
Emo? Sort of
Quote "YARRR!"

It's Pegasus in disguise!!! *cough*

I just hope that Season 5, wherever it is, leaves the stories about the Gang's kids to the fanfiction writers.

I hope not. While there are a few one I dearly enjoy reading, many tend to be either too optimistic, too pessimistic, or just too...weird. And I can't even imagine many fan's ideal/paradise-like fate toward the characters they love and the 'deserved life' *coughpunishmentcough* to the characters they hate. Keep it coming from the original source!

[Kamekai offline]

No, we need a Season 5 all about Franz & the like. Leave the kids behind for the most part, and throw in the parents as cameos. And a lot of foreshadowing. ^_^

And on account of Carth's new "suggested advice"[/rule] thread, is talking about 'Season 5' in 'Season 4 Discussion' considered off-topic and/or spam?

[Malkmusian offline]

Season 5 may be about Franz's history. I don't know.

[Carth]

Or Season 5 could be random offtopic happiness!

Huh...I guess since this is technically a Season 4 discussion...where'd that old Season 5 thread go?

[timekitten offline]

*points* Carth and AmericanLyokoTeam started this trail of 'offtopicness'.

But for now S5 isn't confirmed. They said it's entirely dependent on how well S4 does.

Wish I knew how the ratings are right now. If they're low, I'd kidnap some kids and strap them in front of a tv. Brainwash them into loving CL and raise the S4 ratings...Not that I would actually resort to that! *hides rope behind back*

[Kamekai offline]

According to statsitics, Code Lyoko's waaaay up there.

[AmericanLyokoTeam offline]

*points* Carth and AmericanLyokoTeam started this trail of 'offtopicness'.

Hey now, I just asked a simple question. ;P

But yeah, it'd be nice to have some official noise on season 5 one way or the other. As for what it could be about, thats tricky. It's likely Franz's story wouldn't allow for the weekly action fix you get from the show now. XANA resurgance after a supposed defeat makes it too likely the show could go on forever. So it's kinda hard to say.

NOW you can blame me for running off topic.

ps: I hate 'kids of' fanfics, they're almost never done well. I do like OxSi fanfics, although I only ever saw one or two of those done well come to think of it.

[JesusFreak offline]

So, the last episode of season four is called "Echoes"? THat sounds like a epilouge to me...

[Carth]

It does.

But echoes of what? Oh god I hope nobody dies... but then again it's a kid's show so nobody dies except the bad guy but he's not even human so whut.

[JesusFreak offline]

Maybe the Lyoko travelouge is published. Remember that from Vertigo?

[Taelia offline]

I'm very irritated with the fourth season right now. It has little backbone, mostly hot air filler.

EDIT: If we keep worrying that it'll be cancelled then it will! If we stop worrying, then it won't.

[Cassius335 offline]

It does.

But echoes of what? Oh god I hope nobody dies... but then again it's a kid's show so nobody dies except the bad guy but he's not even human so whut.

Maybe it's a Xana Awakens sequel and we'll finally find out who died from the RTTP (presumably causing the kids to turn off the computer briefly).

[JesusFreak offline]

Maybe it's that guy from That Cinema thing that got the reel for Jeremie, Perhaps?

Or Sissi's Mother?

Or Odd's pet hamster Maria?

Or...

Or...

Stuff!

[AmericanLyokoTeam offline]

It does.

But echoes of what? Oh god I hope nobody dies... but then again it's a kid's show so nobody dies except the bad guy but he's not even human so whut.

Maybe it's a Xana Awakens sequel and we'll finally find out who died from the RTTP (presumably causing the kids to turn off the computer briefly).

Huh? I don't recall anything like that happening, what are you refereing to?

[Cassius335 offline]

My point entirely. They told us in "TeddyGodzilla" that people still die after a RTTP, but we've had no further information since. It's possible that at some point between "Xana Awakens" and "TeddyGodzilla", someone DID die on them.

Or, if you meant the other thing, Jeremie said in one episode (I forget which one) "We all agreed to turn the super computer back on together." The event this refers to didn't happen in Xana Awakens or any episode we've seen, so again may have occured between "Xana Awakens" and "TeddyGodzilla". The two things might be the same incedent, they might not, but until the show elaborates, we can't know further.

*looks round* That about cover it?

[AmericanLyokoTeam offline]

Those are interesting points, and good fanfic fodder, but I suspect that of being incidental production slips or 'we have to stick this somewhere' type producer to viewer information rather than in character hints toward some grand event in the show. It would knock my socks off if you turned out to be right, but I suspect Lyoko exists too far in the 'nobody dies in kid's cartoons' catagory.

[TB3]

SPOILERS FOR 'MEDUSEE'

Well I just watched 'Medusee' (having not been able to sleep last night in anticipation) and it was kinda a let down - I was hoping we'd have some advancement of plot, but the only major revelation this episode has seems to be Aelita remembering that her surname is really 'Schaeffer'.

On the positive side, the episode featured what may be the most badass one-on-one Lyoko combat ever, and some nice set-pieces, especially in the second half

The main problem I have is that the writers address the issue of Aelita's identity and parentage, and then do nothing with it, like in the cousins episode where Sissi and Herve discover her false identity - both times, the second someone stumbles onto the kids' secret and seems on the verge of making things difficult for them and interesting for us, XANA possesses them - it really seems like the writers are following a formula of getting some tension going, and then dropping that in favour of Lyoko combat and possessed people throwing around parts of the set and roaring incoherently

Also, I now hate the RTTP even more - it used to just wipe out character development, but now it's getting in the way of interesting stories and drama - I'd love for that function to just bug up for a few episodes and leave the kids having to play damage control with any ensuing situation.

Fingers crossed though that this is setting stuff up - the whole Schaeffer thing could go somewhere, and Jeremie seems to have unlocked a new function in the supercomputer - the episode builds up so dramatically when he activates some new software of Franz's own design, but it's actual function is vague, though I have my suspicions...

Lol - sorry if I'm ranting - it was a cool episode, but it's kinda like the episode 'Franz Hopper' in S2 - highly anticipated, coolly executed, but in the end, little more than filler that sets up some future stuff - what I was hoping for was a 'Contact' episode that twisted throughout and left me begging for more

Nb: It seems the OS that Jeremie and Aelita's computers use is a standard one (including the icons we thought unique to Hopperian system architecture), because this episode shows Sissi's computer also has the same set-up (in a fetching shade of lilac) - though maybe...hmm...

[zex marquise offline]

SPOILERS FOR 'MEDUSEE'

Well I just watched 'Medusee' (having not been able to sleep last night in anticipation) and it was kinda a let down - I was hoping we'd have some advancement of plot, but the only major revelation this episode has seems to be Aelita remembering that her surname is really 'Schaeffer'.

On the positive side, the episode featured what may be the most badass one-on-one Lyoko combat ever, and some nice set-pieces, especially in the second half

The main problem I have is that the writers address the issue of Aelita's identity and parentage, and then do nothing with it, like in the cousins episode where Sissi and Herve discover her false identity - both times, the second someone stumbles onto the kids' secret and seems on the verge of making things difficult for them and interesting for us, XANA possesses them - it really seems like the writers are following a formula of getting some tension going, and then dropping that in favour of Lyoko combat and possessed people throwing around parts of the set and roaring incoherently

Also, I now hate the RTTP even more - it used to just wipe out character development, but now it's getting in the way of interesting stories and drama - I'd love for that function to just bug up for a few episodes and leave the kids having to play damage control with any ensuing situation.

Fingers crossed though that this is setting stuff up - the whole Schaeffer thing could go somewhere, and Jeremie seems to have unlocked a new function in the supercomputer - the episode builds up so dramatically when he activates some new software of Franz's own design, but it's actual function is vague, though I have my suspicions...

Lol - sorry if I'm ranting - it was a cool episode, but it's kinda like the episode 'Franz Hopper' in S2 - highly anticipated, coolly executed, but in the end, little more than filler that sets up some future stuff - what I was hoping for was a 'Contact' episode that twisted throughout and left me begging for more

Nb: It seems the OS that Jeremie and Aelita's computers use is a standard one (including the icons we thought unique to Hopperian system architecture), because this episode shows Sissi's computer also has the same set-up (in a fetching shade of lilac) - though maybe...hmm...

This is cool info. Thank you Teebs. Looks like that old Waldo S. plot might come back.

[Carth]

SPOILERS FOR 'MEDUSEE'

Well I just watched 'Medusee' (having not been able to sleep last night in anticipation) and it was kinda a let down - I was hoping we'd have some advancement of plot, but the only major revelation this episode has seems to be Aelita remembering that her surname is really 'Schaeffer'.

On the positive side, the episode featured what may be the most badass one-on-one Lyoko combat ever, and some nice set-pieces, especially in the second half

The main problem I have is that the writers address the issue of Aelita's identity and parentage, and then do nothing with it, like in the cousins episode where Sissi and Herve discover her false identity - both times, the second someone stumbles onto the kids' secret and seems on the verge of making things difficult for them and interesting for us, XANA possesses them - it really seems like the writers are following a formula of getting some tension going, and then dropping that in favour of Lyoko combat and possessed people throwing around parts of the set and roaring incoherently

Also, I now hate the RTTP even more - it used to just wipe out character development, but now it's getting in the way of interesting stories and drama - I'd love for that function to just bug up for a few episodes and leave the kids having to play damage control with any ensuing situation.

Fingers crossed though that this is setting stuff up - the whole Schaeffer thing could go somewhere, and Jeremie seems to have unlocked a new function in the supercomputer - the episode builds up so dramatically when he activates some new software of Franz's own design, but it's actual function is vague, though I have my suspicions...

Lol - sorry if I'm ranting - it was a cool episode, but it's kinda like the episode 'Franz Hopper' in S2 - highly anticipated, coolly executed, but in the end, little more than filler that sets up some future stuff - what I was hoping for was a 'Contact' episode that twisted throughout and left me begging for more XD

Nb: It seems the OS that Jeremie and Aelita's computers use is a standard one (including the icons we thought unique to Hopperian system architecture), because this episode shows Sissi's computer also has the same set-up (in a fetching shade of lilac) - though maybe...hmm...

This is cool info. Thank you Teebs. :) Looks like that old Waldo S. plot might come back.

Well, that explains at least a little bit. Hopefully the next episode will explain a little more. Next episode. Another week of school >:P

Aelita's last name is Schaeffer, ne? Hahaha. Makes sense. So what's with the name Franz Hopper? Where'd that come from?

On an entirely different note, what's with the cute outfit she's wearing in the picture? Why does Aelita always get such cute outfits? And why is it animated like the flashback sequences? All...weird, and stuff?

*waits until CL.fr puts up full summary*

[Cassius335 offline]

SPOILERS FOR 'MEDUSEE'

Well I just watched 'Medusee' (having not been able to sleep last night in anticipation) and it was kinda a let down - I was hoping we'd have some advancement of plot, but the only major revelation this episode has seems to be Aelita remembering that her surname is really 'Schaeffer'.

Like "Mothers Maiden name" real or "Franz is not Aelita's father" real?I sense a game of Where's Waldo in the gangs future.

EDIT: Carth just made me think of a third option: "Franz Hopper" was the name Waldo used while hiding from the MIB. Which bring's up the possibility that "Aelita" isn't her real name either.

[TB3]

SPOILERS FOR 'MEDUSEE'

Well I just watched 'Medusee' (having not been able to sleep last night in anticipation) and it was kinda a let down - I was hoping we'd have some advancement of plot, but the only major revelation this episode has seems to be Aelita remembering that her surname is really 'Schaeffer'.

Like "Mothers Maiden name" real or "Franz is not Aelita's father" real?I sense a game of Where's Waldo in the gangs future.

EDIT: Carth just made me think of a third option: "Franz Hopper" was the name Waldo used while hiding from the MIB. Which bring's up the possibility that "Aelita" isn't her real name either.

I'm fairly confident Aelita is her real name, otherwise why else would Anthea yell it when being taken away by the MiB?

Right, listening through the last scene in French and I think I hear this:

'Hopper et le nom ma mere' - i.e. Hopper was Aelita's mother's maiden name - I also get the feeling that Aelita is saying Franz was her father's middle name (possibly) - I'm waiting on cl.fr to upload a translation too.

If so, then the family tree would be

Waldo Franz Schaeffer
and
Anthea Hopper
give birth to
Aelita Schaeffer

Nb: I'm still wondering what Franz's mysterious program did (I keep thinking of it as a standing wave) - it froze everything temporarily, but the only effect it seemed to have was to purge XANA from Aelita - however that's a function that makes no sense -

A: It seems totally anticlimactic to the actual 'standing wave' action

and

B: Why would Franz have written a program to purge XANA from his daughter when that photo of the chalkboard was taken before he began looping through time or programming Lyoko or XANA (in the photo his beard is shorter and has more colour than classic 'vanilla' Franz)

I think that (though cl.fr will probably prove me wrong) the equation has something to do with the core operations of the supercomputer, and basically triggered a system reboot or similar effect that reset Aelita, and really knocked the wind out of her - purging XANA was either a side effect or a result of her being knocked unconscious.

EDIT:
Okay still no summary on cl.fr but reading through the French forums, seems I was right about Hopper being Anthea's maiden name, Franz being Waldo's middle name and yes, the 'standing wave' program is apparently a new reboot function - since Franz wrote it in mathematical characters however, it probably draws on a manipulation of Quantum/Zero Point Space, rather than a command code like 'Go To Line 1'

[Taelia offline]

See what I meant by "Season 4 is one of the worst seasons ever"?