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Postby Skorpigeist » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:36 pm

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I would say that Odd has pretty much a little bit of every nationality, but he is probably new zealandish or norwegien.

Yumi is indeed japanese and has only lived there about 6 years or so

Jeremie- yep he is french

Aelita- meh I guess the same as Jeremie

Ulrich. I get the feeling that while Ulrich is of German descent, he was probably born in france and has lived there all of his life.
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Postby animenologist » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:46 am

Jeremie - I'd say French, the last name is definately French sounding

Ulrich - German, since it has been stated

Yumi - Japanese (obviously)

Aelita - I'd say British. Hopper sounds like an English name if you ask me, and I believe that the VA who plays Hopper was a British actor (poor logic, but its something)

Odd - I'd go with Italian, based on his last name, which is derived from an Italian name. I don't believe he's from New Zealand. Most say its because he named his dog, Kiwi, which was the national bird of New Zealand, but that doesn't prove much. For all we know, he could of named him after the fruit, Kiwi, which is a fruit originating from China, I believe (he has used Chinese words before, and he loves to eat, would make sense to me). My brother had a dog named Martina, and he is not Spanish. And though Odd has a Norwegian first name, that doesn't necessarily mean a Norwegian lineage. My parents gave my brother and me English names, probably since they have lived here for 15 years before I was first born. But I'm of Vietnamese descendence. If you heard my name, it would be my last name that gave away my nationality, not my first.
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Postby YDV » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:55 am

I dunno... New Zealand just seemed to "fit" with Odd to me. Ulrich did say his folks lived on the other side of the planet, and Italy isn't exactly such a relative distance from France... (Ulrich is no idiot, either, y'know)

Odd is an infusion of mutliple cultures. I think the writers did this to confound us. >>;; (I go with the belief that he is New Zealander-Norwegian-Dutch-Canadian :P)
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Postby animenologist » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:04 am

Just because Ulrich said "You get to go see your parents on the other side of the planet", doesn't really mean Odd is from there or that he lives there. For all we know, Odd's parents could of been travelers or military personnel based there or even on an extended vacation while their son was at school. Odd would atleast need a guardian in France, so Odd's guardian could pick him up for getting caught with a dog in Big Bug. Also, in A Great Day, the principal did call Odd's mother, so unless the school likes making long distant calls halfway around the world, he either should be contacting his local guardian or his mother was a local call.
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Postby LadyChaos » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:07 am

Your De-Virtualization wrote:I dunno... New Zealand just seemed to "fit" with Odd to me. Ulrich did say his folks lived on the other side of the planet, and Italy isn't exactly such a relative distance from France... (Ulrich is no idiot, either, y'know)


One thing I thought of with that is that it could be that his parents were vacationing somewhere halfway around the world.

In "Holiday In The Fog", he's told to wait in the study hall room until his parents arrive to pick up Kiwi. If they lived halfway around the world, it wouldn't be just a short wait like they make it seem. Unless the principal was really mad about Odd bringing his dog and decided to go ahead and make him wait for hours, possibly more than a day, for his parents to get there. But I seriously doubt that.

I think in Odd's case, his name is nothing to go by. I'm American, with a German last name, and an Irish <s>first</s> middle name. My first name (real one, not Rose) is Hebrew in origin. Although I believe it's at least supposed to be Irish. So Odd could be of Italian, Norwegian, whatever-ian descent; and yet not be from that country.

EDIT: well animenologist just posted something similar to what I said. I took too long to type it up... :blush:
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Postby MY85 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:07 am

About Odd... in the Spanish version of <i>New Order</i> Aelita breifly mentions Odd's a canadian. Not sure if she was telling the truth or has been told a lie by Odd, to hide his true nationality.
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Postby YDV » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:45 pm

I thought it was the other way around, and Aelita was supposedly a "Canadian." :umm:
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Postby . » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:04 pm

Thats true... so if where basing it off Aelita's lie, it would make sense that Odd is from somewhere in the wester hemisphere I think because realistically who has cousins halfway around the world?

Canada, I think, makes the most sense. It more easierly explains how he would know french then if he came from America.
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Postby KayLenny#7 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:07 pm

OB-waN wrote:Sissi- China (She looks like it, and her dad too)
Her last name is not Chinese, but there is always the posibility that she's half Chinese (on her mother's side).

Keep in consideration that nowadays, not many people are full-blooded anything.
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Postby Taelia » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:10 pm

Or Japanese too. Look at Mr. Delmas, for instance.
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Postby mooshie » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:13 pm

well i'm guessing that odd is of norwegian descent but grew up in california ( as a fellow californian I would know) he has sort of a california accent (or lack of accent) and franz hopper i think is from russia or a former member of U.S.S.R. (after all lots of smart people are russian (take me for example) and by the way everyone thinks aelita is from somwhere different for example yumi's parents think she is japanese, the principal thinks she is from holland, so is it really hard to believe that sissi might mistakenly think she is from alaska well i think i've got the right ratio of info to spam now so i'd better not mess it up and leave this post alone
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Postby animenologist » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:39 pm

ThePepsiPiper wrote:Thats true... so if where basing it off Aelita's lie, it would make sense that Odd is from somewhere in the wester hemisphere I think because realistically who has cousins halfway around the world?

Canada, I think, makes the most sense. It more easierly explains how he would know french then if he came from America.


I have cousins halfway around the world. I live in Florida and I have cousins who live in Vietnam, so really, its not that unbelievable And if we were to base it on lies told, Odd originally stated Aelita was from Holland, basing it off of that, he should be from Europe.

mooshie wrote:well i'm guessing that odd is of norwegian descent but grew up in california ( as a fellow californian I would know) he has sort of a california accent (or lack of accent) and franz hopper i think is from russia or a former member of U.S.S.R. (after all lots of smart people are russian (take me for example) and by the way everyone thinks aelita is from somwhere different for example yumi's parents think she is japanese, the principal thinks she is from holland, so is it really hard to believe that sissi might mistakenly think she is from alaska well i think i've got the right ratio of info to spam now so i'd better not mess it up and leave this post alone


Hopper was part of Project Carthage in 1974, a couple of decades off from the end of the Cold War and communist Russia. So if he was of Russian descent or from the USSR, seems highly suspicious he would be against Russia, instead of for Russia, though he could of possibly defected somehow.

I doubt Yumi's parents and the principal thinks that Aelita is from Japan and Holland, respectively, anymore. That was just a mix-up in stories when they were hastily trying to create a story for Aelita during Code: Earth and False Start that they accidentally messed up her background. But a RTTP brought them back before the told events.

And where did you get Sissi believing she's from Alaska? I only remember that Sissi referred to Aelita going home to the "Great White North", which is a nickname for Canada, their current and probably well-thought out story so they don't make a mess out of it like the end of Season 1.
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Postby TB3 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:33 pm

If I'm going to risk sounding completely raced, I always felt Sissi had Romany blood in her.

As for Odd - he's tricky - I think the evidence is that French is his first language (he's very sophisticated in it's use which suggests he was raised in it - Sharon Mann still has trouble apparently even after living ther for nearly 20 years) - however he is very dexterous in his Italian, has a family tree convoluted enough to support the concept of relatives around the world, has a Scandinavian name and a New-Zealand-named dog, and has parents who live on 'the other side of the world'.

My thought is that Odd's family is of Italian descent and that his official nationality is French (though his knowledge of the Green Card system might disprove this), but he was raised around the world - possibly in French Canada (Quebec), or New Zealand.

As for Hopper - one family under the name had it's roots in North-East England in the 10th-11th Century.

Franz might have descended from this line though;

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Postby KayLenny#7 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:48 pm

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Here is a seach on Sissi and Ulrich. It's hard to read, but it says that there were actually people born to that name in the locations listed. There was an Ulrich Stern from Germany, but I didn't put it on the list.
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Postby Lani » Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:29 pm

^ See, there we go! After looking at that picture we can conclude that Sissi's from Michigan, not France. Jeez you guys...

xD; Just kidding.

We could probably find out what (or how much of) Aelita really is, if we EVER find out what her mom's name or maiden name was... like if it's Natasha Fedorova then I assure you she's NOT Mexican. o_o

I also get a feeling that Odd lived a lot of places throughout his lifetime. Dunno why.
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Postby YDV » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:20 pm

I'm tellin' ya, his dad's gotta be in the military! That's why he has no nationality, practically.

Uhh...

Anias Fiquet is probably French. xD;;

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Postby KayLenny#7 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:21 pm

Your De-Virtualization wrote:Anias Fiquet is probably French. xD;;
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At least half French. Just by her name and her appearance. Ya never know, she could be part Finnish as well...
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Postby . » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:24 pm

Your De-Virtualization wrote:I'm tellin' ya, his dad's gotta be in the military! That's why he has no nationality, practically.

Uhh...

Anias Fiquet is probably French. xD;;

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I can't see Odd being the son of a military man O.o I mean... If Odd turns sidewise you can't even see him! lol
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Postby Lani » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:35 pm

Your De-Virtualization wrote:I'm tellin' ya, his dad's gotta be in the military! That's why he has no nationality, practically.

Uhh...

Anias Fiquet is probably French. xD;;

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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. That girl is obviously from Thailand, duh... :P


Now, Mr. Thomas Jovilet is from sexy, I mean uhh... French. Yeah. >>;
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Postby KayLenny#7 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:36 pm

Lani wrote:Now, Mr. Thomas Jovilet is from sexy, I mean uhh... French. Yeah. >>;
He's gotta have some Prussian in him too! The smexiful people are always PRUSSIAN!

Okay. So he's oviously French. What other kind of divarific guy could be like him and not get called gay? :D *_*
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Postby Lani » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:49 pm

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Lani wrote:Now, Mr. Thomas Jovilet is from sexy, I mean uhh... French. Yeah. >>;
He's gotta have some Prussian in him too! The smexiful people are always PRUSSIAN!

Okay. So he's oviously French. What other kind of divarific guy could be like him and not get called gay? :D *_*


Or maybe even some part Asian in him too... His hairstyle reminds me just ever so slightly of that of j-rockers... And Asians are usually, well... hot. xD;
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Postby KayLenny#7 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:27 pm

Lani wrote:
Numbuh 7 wrote:
Lani wrote:Now, Mr. Thomas Jovilet is from sexy, I mean uhh... French. Yeah. >>;
He's gotta have some Prussian in him too! The smexiful people are always PRUSSIAN!

Okay. So he's oviously French. What other kind of divarific guy could be like him and not get called gay? :D *_*


Or maybe even some part Asian in him too... His hairstyle reminds me just ever so slightly of that of j-rockers... And Asians are usually, well... hot. xD;
OMG, I was thinking that too! Brain-clone alert!
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Postby Lani » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:59 pm

Numbuh 7 wrote:
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Lani wrote:Now, Mr. Thomas Jovilet is from sexy, I mean uhh... French. Yeah. >>;
He's gotta have some Prussian in him too! The smexiful people are always PRUSSIAN!

Okay. So he's oviously French. What other kind of divarific guy could be like him and not get called gay? :D *_*


Or maybe even some part Asian in him too... His hairstyle reminds me just ever so slightly of that of j-rockers... And Asians are usually, well... hot. xD;
OMG, I was thinking that too! Brain-clone alert!


o_o Omg, we must be related or something.
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Postby YDV » Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:10 pm

:O!! Lani and #7 are secretly...... COUSINS!

In a past life!

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Yeah, um... Thomas is deifinitely French. Get over it. :P

...PRUSSIAN? NO WAY! Oh wait that's part of Germany, right? Um... nevermind. xD;;;;
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Postby KayLenny#7 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:13 pm

A girl can dream, can't she?! ;__;

Prussia is past northern German and Poland. Kinda like how Persia is past Iran. Prussians tend to have black or red hair, but sometimes brown. I dunno; it was a wild guess.
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