Are Jeremy and Aelita really ment to be?

[Jeremified offline]

Also, I'm not sure if this was already mentioned or not...
Since Aelita's regained all her memories of the real world, she's going to be a LOT less naive (sp?) to the real world. And since Jeremie wasn't really smooth at all, isn't she going to be more interested in other guys? I mean, sure Jeremie would be heartbroken, but Aelita would want to, as ThePepsiPiper said, explore the world, which could require a break-up.

[Metrion offline]

I think that it could be yes or no about their relationship.

Jeremie tends to ignore Aelita and sometimes just be mean to her, but only because he's worried about her, or wants to save her from Xana, and so on. Aelita sometimes takes this the wrong way and starts a fight. The two of them, apparently, are growing increasingly naiive about how things actually work, especially Aelita. She seems to expect Jeremie to love her back the way she does, such as kissing and hugging and so forth, something that Jeremie just won't do.

I think that it would be possible that she could break him out of his shell and make him have a little fun, but at the moment it doesn't seem like it will happen any time soon. She'd be more suited for a different lover like Odd, or even William.

But on the other hand, things always turn out okay in the end. After having been 'together' and 'an item' for such a long time, things have changed between them. They aren't in a pety relationship anymore - they're beginning to realize that both of them have faults. Little things they have to deal with. That can be frustrating. Their relationship is different from Yumi and Ulrich's because that couple still thinks of eachother as 'perfect.' They haven't been 'together' long enough, or at all to realize things, and when they do, they will fight. A lot. Jeremie/Aelita can work out; it's Ulrich and Yumi I worry about.

[Taelia offline]

I worry about them too. A lot.

[TB3]

Like Jeremified I'm curious about how Aelita's regained memories are going to affect their relationship - I reckon that come S3 Aelita's character will have undergone another evolutionary stage.

Like minds far greater than mine have said, Aelita the AI was patience defined - I honestly can't remember a time she lost her temper on Lyoko and any arguments she had with Jeremie usually stemmed from him (Frontier)

Aelita the virtualised being is far removed from that person - she's started to live a life, and just being around other people have started to help develop her personality - adding some 'firebrand' elements to her and really giving her some zest - it also challenged the JxA relationship much like the UxY one always has been, wheras in S1 the Jeremie/Aelita relationship was perhaps one of the greatest constants.

Ultimately I think Aelita coming to Earth has strengthened their bonds, but now I'm really curious as to what effect 'Aelita the human' will have on the pair.

After all, Aelita's personality as a young girl seems equally removed from what we've seen - she's naive and innocent to the point of 'girliness' - overlay this onto the very mature personality developed during S1 and then 'humanised' in S2 and you get an interesting conflict.

Also remember that regained memories might also bring emotional baggage with it - who's to say that Aelita did not have a crush on someone as a girl - though obviously they are now 12 years older than her those experiences might alter how see looks at Jeremie, for better or for worse.

And also she's now dealing with the grief of loosing Franz and that might well dredge up her recollections of her mother's death/dissapearance...couple this with the emotional strain the S2 climax put on her and I wouldn't be shocked to see Aelita start S3 as a somber, withdrawn character.

And just to say which side of the fence I'm on, JxA - I can't see OxA working, though I respect the views of those who support it.

[emoBillâ„¢ offline]

Jer x Aelita should be together mainly because of that gigantic paragraph that Mewberries posted. Nuff said.

[Taelia offline]

I agree with all of you. Aelita has even hinted in several instances that she wants to feel Jeremie's lips against hers, and that she loves him.

[emoBillâ„¢ offline]

Yeah, like when she kissed him in "False Start" (hehe, she thought a picture booth was a scanner...and how she had his glasses on =P), and in "Xana's Kiss" and also in "Ghost Channel" and "Frontier" when Jeremie...and the dreamish thing...and...

[Skysong offline]

But on the other hand, things always turn out okay in the end. After having been 'together' and 'an item' for such a long time, things have changed between them. They aren't in a pety relationship anymore - they're beginning to realize that both of them have faults. Little things they have to deal with. That can be frustrating. Their relationship is different from Yumi and Ulrich's because that couple still thinks of eachother as 'perfect.' They haven't been 'together' long enough, or at all to realize things, and when they do, they will fight. A lot. Jeremie/Aelita can work out; it's Ulrich and Yumi I worry about.

Thank you for saying that. Middle school relationships are basically just crushes in the end, and once you find out the person you like has qualities that annoy you and you have qualities that annoy them, you fight. Yumi and Ulrich are always played off as "the perfect couple" because of how long they've been waltzing around each other and how dedicated they are and stuff, but I think J/A really might be. Like I said, they may fight, but they're willing to work to stay together. Yumi and Ulrich... well, just watch "Routine" or an episode with a similar fight and you'll see what they do... Jeremie and Aelita are willing to forgive each other's faults because they care about the other. It's not all you need to make a ship last forever, but it's a start...

[kyosuke offline]

The stress we see IMO is from Aelita growing from computer princess
into a person.
That person is stronger and more outgoing the computer version.
Can they adapt? I think so.

For a start they have deep feelings for each other.


They have many common interests and some exclusive too.
They have Lyoko/Xana/Harper to help keep them together.
They also have time to work these things out.

Also as others have said having memories of doing human things combined with the desire to help her father could serve as a restraint on Aelita’s wilder side at least on Earth.

[oddlauren offline]

The stress we see IMO is from Aelita growing from computer princess
into a person.
That person is stronger and more outgoing the computer version.
Can they adapt? I think so.

For a start they have deep feelings for each other.


They have many common interests and some exclusive too.
They have Lyoko/Xana/Harper to help keep them together.
They also have time to work these things out.

Also as others have said having memories of doing human things combined with the desire to help her father could serve as a restraint on Aelita’s wilder side at least on Earth.

Yes, this may put a strain on their relationship. Alieta is still learning how to live on earth, and Jeremy oviously has. Even during the first show i watched of it, i could tell something was going on between them. I can hardly wait until S3 starts.

[Mewberries151]

These are some seriously awesome posts and points! *woots for CL Discussion*

But on the other hand, things always turn out okay in the end. After having been 'together' and 'an item' for such a long time, things have changed between them. They aren't in a pety relationship anymore - they're beginning to realize that both of them have faults. Little things they have to deal with. That can be frustrating. Their relationship is different from Yumi and Ulrich's because that couple still thinks of eachother as 'perfect.' They haven't been 'together' long enough, or at all to realize things, and when they do, they will fight. A lot. Jeremie/Aelita can work out; it's Ulrich and Yumi I worry about.

Thank you for saying that. Middle school relationships are basically just crushes in the end, and once you find out the person you like has qualities that annoy you and you have qualities that annoy them, you fight. Yumi and Ulrich are always played off as "the perfect couple" because of how long they've been waltzing around each other and how dedicated they are and stuff, but I think J/A really might be. Like I said, they may fight, but they're willing to work to stay together. Yumi and Ulrich... well, just watch "Routine" or an episode with a similar fight and you'll see what they do... Jeremie and Aelita are willing to forgive each other's faults because they care about the other. It's not all you need to make a ship last forever, but it's a start...

Not to steer this thread off-topic, but I'm going to make a slight detour into Y/U. I don't view Y/U as the "perfect couple". I don't even see J/A aas the "perfect couple". The reason why is that the idea of a "perfect couple" can't really exist and maybe even doesn't. What is a "perfect couple" really. A couple that never fights? A couple who's personalities compliment each other well. A couple that loves each other unconditionally? Who's to say?

A couple needs to have disagreements and clashes of personality and thought to learn and grow together and as individuals. Yumi and Ulrich, are usually labeled as being the "perfect couple" because they're so alike. They're really not. Yes, they're both introverted, but Yumi's far more out-going than Ulrich is. Plus, Yumi seems to find alot more joy in life than Ulrich does. Ulrich's not the type to stop and "smell the flowers"; Yumi is. She's also not afraid to turn around and tell him to "stop and take a breath" when he's dwelling to deeply over things. Of course, he sometimes doesn't listen to her, but what kid ever listens to every piece of advice ever given him. Ulrich still needs to grow a little, this I'll admit.

The fact that they fight doesn't concern me. They're not always at eachother's throats. Even when they are arguing it's not a really "bad" fight. If anything, it's the kind of fight you'd see any couple have. Jeremie and Aelita have only had one run in with jealousy in their relationship ("XANA's Kiss") and Jeremie didn't really act any differently about it than Ulrich did. Ulrich and Yumi have had to deal with jealousy and one or two people very determined to split them apart since the very beginning. I can't blame them for fighting more than Jeremie and Aelita do. They've had to deal with alot more than them. The fact that they still love each other and want to be together speaks alot about the strength of their devotion for each other.

I see Yumi and Ulrich as being the definitive "dysfunctional couple" and "dysfunctional couples" work in real life, often alot better than whatever definition can be attached to the "perfect couple". They work because they grow and learn about each other with each passing moment, and because despite it all, they still love and care about each other. That's why I think Y/U can work, just as well as J/A.

Erm...but I digress severely. ^^; Back to J/A matters...

Ah thoes are good point lol I never really thought about it that deeply.

I do have one last sticking point though, and thats that they're both still young and this is their first relationship for both of them. I find it kinda hard to swallow that SOMETHING won't change with in the next decade or so that won't lead them to splitting up.

There is one thing I can say against that and that is that these kids have already had to grow up and mature in mind and personality to deal with the things they've been dealing with. While they may still be young in body, they are not necessarily so young in mind and spirit anymore. This is something to definitely consider as to why the friendships and relationships they've formed with each other and the way in which they've bonded could last them into their adult years. They think and act like adults already, alot of the time.

[. offline]

Even if they has mature now... I just can't see them staying with each other till there death. If not a total break up I can at least see a time period where Aelita goes and dates Odd for a bit and ends up back with Jer. The idea of them staying together forever is just way to fantasy like.

[MY85 offline]

D*mmit, I read this whole entire thread.

As far as people has been saying around here, I think Jeremie and Aelita will be in the end a much more stable couple.

Just try picturing Aelita with Odd, Ulrich or any of the other kids... simply, no one would definately understand her or care about her the way Jeremie would. He can't brawl at Lyoko, but someone has to be the brain on the Lyoko missions. Also, he's the only one that can understand in a more perfect sense Aelita's problem (antivirus + origin + feelings, etc.).

I'm sure many has also thought of an Odd/Aelita... which I wouldn't deny thinking of it as a good idea. But the concept of Odd and Aelita together is probably just physical attraction and flirting things, and very overused for fanfics of the "sexual consolation / payback" type. Odd can fight in Lyoko, he can concern about Aelita... sure he could please Aelita in many ways (humour, company, friendship, etc.) better or similar than Jeremie...

As for Aelita/Jeremie into physical attraction... since Jeremie's pretty much shy, it'll be the kind of relationship that wil make them getting into a sexual relationship the day they get married as long as Jeremie doesn't change his morals... from that point, Aelita is "new" to the world and wants to explore all kinds of stuff, feelings, adrenaline, etc. She might be more mature into certain stuff than Jeremie and might know more about stuff inside Lyoko (well, being there for many years could make that her playground while XANA wasn't active, lol), but from the technical view, Jeremie can save her and the others at Lyoko. Stuff that Odd would never do (unless guided by Aelita or Jeremie) on his own.

Aelita and Ulrich wouldn't be totally compatible. Beyonf this point, Aelita knows he wants Yumi and she wouldn't mess things up for them. Besides... looking at them, you can tell they are not compatible.

Many of us can have dreams (or nightmares) about this... but you gotta take in account that not much romantic material is shown at Lyoko. Just brief friendship and love and concern.

Not to steer this thread off-topic, but I'm going to make a slight detour into Y/U. I don't view Y/U as the "perfect couple". I don't even see J/A aas the "perfect couple". The reason why is that the idea of a "perfect couple" can't really exist and maybe even doesn't. What is a "perfect couple" really. A couple that never fights? A couple who's personalities compliment each other well. A couple that loves each other unconditionally? Who's to say?

A couple will always have to deal with problems. Arguements may happen. It's a matter of both couples to solve things the way they can do best, even if it involves a temporal separation or total break-up. And if there was a "perfect stable couple" at Code Lyoko, it could kill the show's essence.

[oddlauren offline]

Yes, Alieta may want to date Odd or Ulrich, but I dought she would. She knows Ulrich loves Yumi, and she loves Jeremie too much. Ulrich wouldn't date her because he is in love with Yumi, and would not want to upset Jeremie. Odd would not date Alieta because it would upset Jeremie, and I don't really see much Cimestry between him and Alieta.

[Kim offline]

Personally, I think that Aelita is very friendly, but not fully an extrovert. I mean think about it. She came from Lyoko. She doesn't really know anyone besides the group. Plus She doesn't have a roomate either if you're using that as an excuse. I think they will fight of course but are the sweet M.F.E.O. type.

[oddlauren offline]

Personally, I think that Aelita is very friendly, but not fully an extrovert. I mean think about it. She came from Lyoko. She doesn't really know anyone besides the group. Plus She doesn't have a roomate either if you're using that as an excuse. I think they will fight of course but are the sweet M.F.E.O. type.

no, she isn't at all to me. she reminds me of myself, she's somewhat shy. She spent what, 12 years stuck in Lyoko? so she's not nearly as extrovert as people who have lived on earth their entire lives.

[Mewberries151]

Personally, I think that Aelita is very friendly, but not fully an extrovert. I mean think about it. She came from Lyoko. She doesn't really know anyone besides the group. Plus She doesn't have a roomate either if you're using that as an excuse. I think they will fight of course but are the sweet M.F.E.O. type.

That's a really good point. She's not a total extrovert...she's just more extroverted than Jeremie is (which in comparison really does make her look seriously extroverted). Just about the only true extrovert on the show is Odd, and even he has his moments too ("Rock Bottom").

That's an excellent point.

Not to steer this thread off-topic, but I'm going to make a slight detour into Y/U. I don't view Y/U as the "perfect couple". I don't even see J/A aas the "perfect couple". The reason why is that the idea of a "perfect couple" can't really exist and maybe even doesn't. What is a "perfect couple" really. A couple that never fights? A couple who's personalities compliment each other well. A couple that loves each other unconditionally? Who's to say?

A couple will always have to deal with problems. Arguements may happen. It's a matter of both couples to solve things the way they can do best, even if it involves a temporal separation or total break-up. And if there was a "perfect stable couple" at Code Lyoko, it could kill the show's essence.

This is true too. It may not require either of those though, if both are willing to accept the other's differences and reach a compromise. When it comes down to it, I guess a relationship of any kind is about "give-and-take", or at least involves that in some way.

Even if they has mature now... I just can't see them staying with each other till there death. If not a total break up I can at least see a time period where Aelita goes and dates Odd for a bit and ends up back with Jer. The idea of them staying together forever is just way to fantasy like.

Eh...I guess this is one of those "reaching of an impasse" things then, because honestly, I could see them staying with each other til Death do them part. It happens in real life all the time, so why couldn't it happen to them? ^^

[Kim offline]

Thank you. And the two of you who quoted me (sorry, forgot you're names) that was exactly what I was talking about. I agree with you two fully. Odd's the only extrovert. THe rest stay mainly within the group, and Aelita is only more extroverted than Jeremie.

[oddlauren offline]

I think that's why they get along so well.
It's no big deal, I don't remember half the people's names, even those i reply to.

[. offline]

Eh...I guess this is one of those "reaching of an impasse" things then, because honestly, I could see them staying with each other til Death do them part. It happens in real life all the time, so why couldn't it happen to them? ^^

Well the odds are stacked against them... In more ways then one! lol[/quote]

[Mewberries151]

Eh...I guess this is one of those "reaching of an impasse" things then, because honestly, I could see them staying with each other til Death do them part. It happens in real life all the time, so why couldn't it happen to them? ^^

Well the odds are stacked against them... In more ways then one! lol

How so? Because they fight XANA (and one of them could die young)? I don't quite know what you mean by "odds are stacked against them".

Unless of course you mean, Odd himself.

[Skysong offline]

Not to steer this thread off-topic, but I'm going to make a slight detour into Y/U. I don't view Y/U as the "perfect couple". I don't even see J/A aas the "perfect couple". The reason why is that the idea of a "perfect couple" can't really exist and maybe even doesn't. What is a "perfect couple" really. A couple that never fights? A couple who's personalities compliment each other well. A couple that loves each other unconditionally? Who's to say?

*coughs* Not that this has anything to do with anything... but I don't believe in "perfect couples" myself. Saying that there is such a thing is idealistic, totally not my style. I'm just saying that other people do and if I was told to pick a couple I thought would work out, J/A would be it.

[. offline]

Eh...I guess this is one of those "reaching of an impasse" things then, because honestly, I could see them staying with each other til Death do them part. It happens in real life all the time, so why couldn't it happen to them? ^^

Well the odds are stacked against them... In more ways then one! lol

How so? Because they fight XANA (and one of them could die young)? I don't quite know what you mean by "odds are stacked against them".

Unless of course you mean, Odd himself.

well lol I mean it two ways. The literal way meaning the statistical chances of them staying together forever are especially slim considering how young they are. Time and events change people, I find it hard to stomach them staying together forever. Thats my only gripe.

...And yeah, Odd himself... Come on, he's such a pimp you KNOW he's thought about it lol

[Darkness Incarnate offline]

No matter how much aelita goes off and does her own thing she always trys to get Jeremie in on the action so I think they will end up together.

[*Star* Gazer offline]

Thus only fluffiness,love,kissing ect- can only happen in fanfiction. And I mean only. (Unless Moonscoop/AnteFilms gets an idea. ) *wishes*