Is Code Lyoko....dying?

[Mewberries151]

I'm well aware that Code Lyoko ended a couple years ago. The fact that "Code Lyoko is dead" or whatever you want to say, is not the problem here, because yes, if you mean "dead" in the sense that no more new episodes are being produced for the show than yes, it's dead.

However, there is still fanfiction, fanart and all other kinds of ways for people to still get into the show, not to mention the fandom itself. That is not dead.

My irritation with Taelia stems from the fact that we've told her this 20 times over, and she still insists on making posts that say the same thing over and over. It's getting annoying, it's becoming spam-ish and I want it to stop. Thank you.

[Taelia offline]

Didn't you hear what 422 said? CL is no longer profitable.

[SilverPrince offline]

Well, technically, no one here has heard anything I have said.

And when I replied saying "CL is no longer profitable", I meant the television show. As in, the television show is metaphorically speaking "dead". There won't be any new episodes in the near future.

Our most lovely Mewberries151 is very correct.* Like the fandoms of many television shows, book series, manga and other media before us, the fandom of Code Lyoko is not dead. The life of a fandom is not linked to the life of the item it venerates, in the sense that people can go on writing fanfictions and doing all the things fandoms are known to do.

Certain fandoms (like those that rhyme with Tar Fleck), after a cancellation- or an incarnation of the series so awful many choose to disregard its existence- have been known to remain so dedicated to their "dead" fandom that they make their own freaking episodes.

My point is that our fandom is not dead. The very fact that we are here, on a fan forum, discussing the life of the fandom is proof that it lives. While the Supercomputer that is Code Lyoko is shut down for good, the backup servers that are LF and the rest of the fandom are still working at optimum capacity.

*Totally not being a kissup. >.>

[Jeremified offline]

Certain fandoms (like those that rhyme with Tar Fleck), after a cancellation- or an incarnation of the series so awful many choose to disregard its existence- have been known to remain so dedicated to their "dead" fandom that they make their own freaking episodes.

While I agree with you on that point, one must realize that the Star Trek fanbase is massive compared to that of Code Lyoko, and, much like you/Taelia stated, Code Lyoko is nowhere near as profitable as Star Trek. Substitute Star Trek for any number of major fanbases out there, whether it be Transformers, Star Wars, or any other television show that recently became a movie, and the story is just the same.

[Taelia offline]

422 IS RIGHT.

[knifey offline]

422 IS RIGHT.

Taelia reminds me of the fictional character in her icon.

[Mewberries151]

Certain fandoms (like those that rhyme with Tar Fleck), after a cancellation- or an incarnation of the series so awful many choose to disregard its existence- have been known to remain so dedicated to their "dead" fandom that they make their own freaking episodes.

While I agree with you on that point, one must realize that the Star Trek fanbase is massive compared to that of Code Lyoko, and, much like you/Taelia stated, Code Lyoko is nowhere near as profitable as Star Trek. Substitute Star Trek for any number of major fanbases out there, whether it be Transformers, Star Wars, or any other television show that recently became a movie, and the story is just the same.

Enh...I wouldn't exactly say that fanbase "size" has anything to do with it. Other shows have been brought back with a far smaller fanbase or even for no understandable reason whatsoever. Movies too, especially ones based off of cartoons. ^^

Either way, since I'm pretty sure none of us has the ability to see into the future, it seems rather dumb to argue about whether or not CL is "dead" dead, or if it will make a comeback or what have you, much less state anything "for sure" (you know who you are).

But I do think there's something to be said for positive thinking on this matter, which I do strongly encourage.

[Jeremified offline]

Certain fandoms (like those that rhyme with Tar Fleck), after a cancellation- or an incarnation of the series so awful many choose to disregard its existence- have been known to remain so dedicated to their "dead" fandom that they make their own freaking episodes.

While I agree with you on that point, one must realize that the Star Trek fanbase is massive compared to that of Code Lyoko, and, much like you/Taelia stated, Code Lyoko is nowhere near as profitable as Star Trek. Substitute Star Trek for any number of major fanbases out there, whether it be Transformers, Star Wars, or any other television show that recently became a movie, and the story is just the same.

Enh...I wouldn't exactly say that fanbase "size" has anything to do with it. Other shows have been brought back with a far smaller fanbase or even for no understandable reason whatsoever. Movies too, especially ones based off of cartoons. ^^

I guess that's true... but I can't think of any examples of that happening. The only movies based off of cartoons that I can remember are the ones I mentioned previously, as well as Underdog. I'm not familiar with many of those fanbases, though, so I don't know if "fanbase size" had any influence. Would you care to give an example?

[SilverPrince offline]

I guess that's true... but I can't think of any examples of that happening. The only movies based off of cartoons that I can remember are the ones I mentioned previously, as well as Underdog. I'm not familiar with many of those fanbases, though, so I don't know if "fanbase size" had any influence. Would you care to give an example?

Firefly's fandom was nowhere near the size of Star Trek's. They managed to get a show with less than one season of episodes a movie, and that movie did pretty well in theaters.

And, actually, Iron Man wasn't that big of a comic. It was more of a "B-list comic" until the movie.

[Lyoko Wario offline]

I'd like to chip in a little something about fandom size. True somewhat-relevant story: an old friend of mine from high school was as nuts about Code Lyoko as I am. Every day in class we'd discuss the new episode from the day before, and I even wrote some crappy self-insert fan fiction about us meeting and hanging out with the Lyoko Warriors. And when we were together (my friend and I), it wouldn't have meant anything to us if we were the only two people on the planet who enjoyed Code Lyoko; we could share our affection for the show by ourselves just fine.

And now here we are, all of us still in love with CL, all of us fretting over the same things, looking forward to the same things, looking back on the same things. It doesn't matter if the story is over (it isn't; see: novels), if there aren't any more new episodes, if no one's making a ha'penny off of CL anymore. We still love it, and we are still together. I'll keep coming back here as long as you guys do, and together we'll make CL a part of our lives for as long as we want to. There's nothing to stop us. Really!

[Rho offline]

Guys, someone on another forum pointed this out...
Cartoon Network's license to air Code Lyoko might have expired and not been renewed.

[Taelia offline]

I even wrote some crappy self-insert fan fiction about us meeting and hanging out with the Lyoko Warriors.

My friend Elizabeth and myself wrote a fanfic like that too.

[MY85 offline]

In franchises, tv episodes and/or movies count the most for the survival of the shows and to keep alive the "I care about ___" factor too. Naming a bigger franchise... Star Wars. The movies are the ones that are most remembered.

It's hard to be really positive about Code Lyoko, unless you live in France, where you might have access to more CL-things and still view the episodes on tv or something.

[Mewberries151]

Certain fandoms (like those that rhyme with Tar Fleck), after a cancellation- or an incarnation of the series so awful many choose to disregard its existence- have been known to remain so dedicated to their "dead" fandom that they make their own freaking episodes.

While I agree with you on that point, one must realize that the Star Trek fanbase is massive compared to that of Code Lyoko, and, much like you/Taelia stated, Code Lyoko is nowhere near as profitable as Star Trek. Substitute Star Trek for any number of major fanbases out there, whether it be Transformers, Star Wars, or any other television show that recently became a movie, and the story is just the same.

Enh...I wouldn't exactly say that fanbase "size" has anything to do with it. Other shows have been brought back with a far smaller fanbase or even for no understandable reason whatsoever. Movies too, especially ones based off of cartoons. ^^

I guess that's true... but I can't think of any examples of that happening. The only movies based off of cartoons that I can remember are the ones I mentioned previously, as well as Underdog. I'm not familiar with many of those fanbases, though, so I don't know if "fanbase size" had any influence. Would you care to give an example?

Goodness, where to start.

Well, Underdog was a pretty good example as was Transformers, and but to illustrate how varying the size of a fanbase can be for a cartoon to get revived in some form or another, here's a few more examples:

Rocky and Bulwinkle
Flintstones (a classic arguably, but had been "dead" for some time)
Scooby Doo
Alvin and the Chipmunks
George of the Jungle
Dudley Do-Right
Fat Albert
Mr. Magoo
Josie & the Pussycats
Speed Racer
Casper
Inspector Gadget

And heck, BRATZ recently got a movie deal, and that wasn't even really a cartoon. It was a toy franchise. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is probably a fair example as well.

Now granted, a lot of those cartoon-to-movie adaptations were from older cartoons, however, some of them weren't <i>that</i> old, and several of them were very "obscure" not so popular cartoons. Often, the more obscure or less popular a cartoon was, the easier it is to get the rights because they will likely be less expensive to acquire.

At any rate, the important thing is that there is still a Code Lyoko fanbase, and there are a lot of artistic people in that fanbase who like to draw for it. You guys can draw your own conclusions.

[TheAppleFreak]

You forgot GI Joe. Saw the trailer for that while seeing Star Trek.

[JesusFreak offline]

There should be a Code Lyoko live stage show, like MMPR World Tour: Live on Stage. I know the perfect choices for Jim and Suzanne already.

Tbh that's one direction I wouldn't want CL to go in.

That would get some people I know into it...

[Rho offline]

A live action movie MIGHT work if casted right (Jack Black as Jim FTW) and wasn't completely childish. It would also make sense for it to be filmed in France.
But a stage show or a musical? NOOOOO


I'm not sure about the statement about CL no longer being profitable: Stuart Snyder seems to HATE Code Lyoko, so the "newer" viewers of CN probably have no idea as to what it is. Code Lyoko was recently indefinitely removed from Cartoon Network Video, and it hasn't been on American airwaves in over a YEAR, and even then, it was at a bad timeslot and was replaced by Transformers within a month and a half.
It could still very well be profitable. We don't know.

[Lyoko Wario offline]

Stuart Snyder seems to HATE Code Lyoko, so the "newer" viewers of CN probably have no idea as to what it is.

Is that a fact, or just speculation? (mainly about Snyder)