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Postby Keiji » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:43 pm

*revives topic*

OddXAelita all the way :thumbs up:

Who agrees with me?
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Postby Sithking Zero » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:46 pm

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Postby knifey » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:58 pm

Eh, Yeah I see where it can come from. And it seems <i>somewhat</i> interesting at least.

One thing that bothers me is that a couple people were *violently* opposed to OddUlrich. Well, "Killer Music" seemed to screech OddUlrich to me. I mean, if it weren't for the whole UlrichYumi thing out there, then I would've sworn that Ulrich really did have feelings for Odd.
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Postby Keiji » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:19 am

Uh, no. They're best friends. What makes you think Ulrich wouldn't care about Odd dying unless he "really did have feelings for Odd"?
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Postby Sithking Zero » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:57 am

Heck, if my best friend was dying, I would be pretty much the same as Ulrich, and I'm definately not gay.
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Postby Taelia » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:59 am

OddUlrich makes me barf! They're best friends!
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Postby knifey » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:05 pm

Ugh, Yeah I figure that, but Ulrich was like," I'm going with him! I'm not leaving him!" and all that. he seemed really worried. I'm not saying that Ulrich is gay, but he seemed, like, extremly worried. It just seemed a bit too much, IMO.

Or maybe I'm watching too much Azumanga Daioh, which is resulting in me becoming more defensive of these types of pairings.
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Postby Cassius335 » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:16 pm

Taelia wrote:OddUlrich makes me barf! They're best friends!


Taelia, dear? Fix your images already.
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Postby Sithking Zero » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:35 pm

Whadaya mean, "Fix her images?"
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Postby Darkborn » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:43 pm

As in, can't see them.
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Postby Lani » Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:47 pm

KnifeShock wrote:Ugh, Yeah I figure that, but Ulrich was like," I'm going with him! I'm not leaving him!" and all that. he seemed really worried. I'm not saying that Ulrich is gay, but he seemed, like, extremly worried. It just seemed a bit too much, IMO.

Or maybe I'm watching too much Azumanga Daioh, which is resulting in me becoming more defensive of these types of pairings.


Ummm, yeah. I was thinking the exact same thing about that scene xD; I kinda call Killer Music "Oohxoh Proof"... :P
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Postby Keiji » Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:41 pm

Meh, IMO there is nothing wrong with homosexuality but OxU just seems like the kind of pairing that people make up for no better reason than to satisfy their fantasies. It just seems wrong to me.

*back to OxA* So do you think that Moonscoop deliberately put so many hints in about it, or are they just silly fools and never realised what they were doing? ;)
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Postby Cassius335 » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:03 pm

Rob wrote:*back to OxA* So do you think that Moonscoop deliberately put so many hints in about it, or are they just silly fools and never realised what they were doing? ;)


Probably Odd just being flirty for the fun of it ("I just love making you blush")
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Postby Skorpigeist » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:47 pm

Cassius335 wrote:
Rob wrote:*back to OxA* So do you think that Moonscoop deliberately put so many hints in about it, or are they just silly fools and never realised what they were doing? ;)


Probably Odd just being flirty for the fun of it ("I just love making you blush")


You know that would seem like something odd would do. It is just one of those things that permates his entire personality
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Postby Keiji » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:50 pm

Well you just nullified my entire argument, and everyone's OxA arguments for that matter. :D

Still, OxA is A LOT more feasable than OxS. I mean, they hate each other, so..!
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Postby Sithking Zero » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:17 pm

Rob wrote:Well you just nullified my entire argument, and everyone's OxA arguments for that matter. :D

Still, OxA is A LOT more feasable than OxS. I mean, they hate each other, so..!


Ya know, from the fandom I come from, them thar's fight'n words!

But on a more smug note...


So, OXA is more likely, is it? Then tell me, how many pictures are there of Odd nearly kissing Aelita, hmm? That's right. None. And how many pictures of Sissi nearly kissing Odd? That's right. One! We're doing infinately better!
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Postby Cassius335 » Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:31 am

Sithking Zero wrote:
Rob wrote:Well you just nullified my entire argument, and everyone's OxA arguments for that matter. :D

Still, OxA is A LOT more feasable than OxS. I mean, they hate each other, so..!


Ya know, from the fandom I come from, them thar's fight'n words!


What fandom is that? One Peice?

Sithking Zero wrote:But on a more smug note...

So, OXA is more likely, is it? Then tell me, how many pictures are there of Odd nearly kissing Aelita, hmm? That's right. None. And how many pictures of Sissi nearly kissing Odd? That's right. One! We're doing infinately better!


"Evidence without context is not evidence" - Gill Grissom.

Sorry Sith, but for all you know, Moonscoop could go the Wesley/Cordelia route (odd and Sissy could kiss and hate it)
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Postby Keiji » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:27 pm

Sithking Zero wrote:So, OXA is more likely, is it? Then tell me, how many pictures are there of Odd nearly kissing Aelita, hmm? That's right. None. And how many pictures of Sissi nearly kissing Odd? That's right. One! We're doing infinately better!


Cassius335 wrote:"Evidence without context is not evidence" - Gill Grissom.


'Nuff said. After all, Ulrich and Sissi kissed in Season 1 to stop a XANA attack (can't remember the specifics). What tells you that this ONE PICTURE is nothing of this sort? ;)
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Postby Sithking Zero » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:53 pm

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Postby unifilar » Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:30 pm

I just saw Lyoko Minus One today, and I must admit it turned me into a rock-solid Odd/Aelita fan.

I've always been slightly turned on by the idea, having accepted Yumi/Ulrich (and its development and awesome moments) and left unsatisfied by Jeremy/Aelita. Odd's personality always stuck out, and when coupled with Aelita...I just saw sparks. Certain couples give me the inspiration to write/draw. Odd/Aelita is one of those couples.

It won't be canon, of course, but considering the avatar moments it gained in Lyoko Minus One...it doesn't need to be. Odd/Aelita > canon.
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Postby Cassius335 » Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:42 pm

unifilar wrote:It won't be canon, of course, but considering the avatar moments it gained in Lyoko Minus One...it doesn't need to be. Ood/Aelita > canon.


Watch your typo's! Aelita and one of THOSE things? Ugh.
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Postby unifilar » Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:59 pm

Sorry about that. I'll be more diligent about my spelling.

Anyway. About Odd/Aelita. I though Lyoko Minus One was a good episode for them.

I just had to smile when Odd said, "Just can't keep away from me, huh?" and Aelita never denied it- in fact, she implied that it was true ("And it looks like they can't either."). And her little poem for Odd in the beginning was pretty sweet. XD I'm a sucker for things like that.

And I just gotta wonder about their flirting, when Jeremy's right on the other side of the computer screen. It's plausible that Jeremy thinks of Odd as a threat (which is obvious by the way Ulrich made Jeremy jump start with his, "Odd's going out with Aelita." comment), but he hasn't really said anything about it. Poor guy. -patspats- It'd really make a delicious triangle.

I just think it's golden fanfic material, the way they play off each other and flirt. And how Aelita seems to find Odd's antics amusing. And I adore pairings with nicknames. XD
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Postby codeTONY » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:03 pm

OMG, NO. HOW CAN YOU BE SO IGNORANT?

Jerfied wrote:UlrichxHiroki = CalmxHyper
And just no. Please, people, do we HAVE to discuss gay couples here? Star Way made a BKO section for a reason...
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Could you just stop that? It's gross and kinda defeats the purpose of the thread. This is for discussing non-canon couples, not... gay relationships in CL... you can make your own thread for that in BKO, I'm sure (although there may already be one xD)
I am soo deeply offended by that. I don't know anyone homosexual, nor homosexual myself, but the fact you think homosexual relationships should be discussed in private, let alone BKO, is revolting. What's non-canon about homosexual relationships? And no, there is no thread of that kind in BKO.
Jerfied wrote:Star Way made a BKO section for a reason...
And the reason was not to hide homosexual relationships. "Nothing about homosexuality is 13+" is right, unless it involves sex, and lime sometimes.
Taelia wrote:OddUlrich makes me barf! They're best friends!
Then barf. Barf somewhere else where gay/bi relationships are not being discussed, and don't repeatively tell us about it.
Rob wrote:Meh, IMO there is nothing wrong with homosexuality but OxU just seems like the kind of pairing that people make up for no better reason than to satisfy their fantasies. It just seems wrong to me.
I'm glad you're stating your opinions, but UxO is shipped throughout the show. "Best friends" can easily turn into "boyfriends."

Love is not gender bound.
BTW, I do realize that some of those posts are really old, so if Jerfied, Rob and Taelia changed their ways or whatever, I'm not yelling at them. ;)


On the same note, I very much like the UxO pairing, it seems almost canon. Of course, the show comes from a region where homosexuality is accepted.
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Postby Blueyedblonde » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:56 pm

codeTONY-san wrote:OMG, NO. HOW CAN YOU BE SO IGNORENT?

Jerfied wrote:UlrichxHiroki = CalmxHyper
And just no. Please, people, do we HAVE to discuss gay couples here? Star Way made a BKO section for a reason...
Jerfied wrote:[to a homosexual shipping]
Could you just stop that? It's gross and kinda defeats the purpose of the thread. This is for discussing non-canon couples, not... gay relationships in CL... you can make your own thread for that in BKO, I'm sure (although there may already be one xD)
I am soo deeply offended by that. I don't know anyone homosexual, nor homosexual myself, but the fact you think homosexual relationships should be discussed in private, let alone BKO, is revolting. What's non-canon about homosexual relationships? And no, there is no thread of that kind in BKO.
Jerfied wrote:Star Way made a BKO section for a reason...
And the reason was not to hide homosexual relationships. "Nothing about homosexuality is 13+" is right, unless it involves sex, and lime sometimes.
Taelia wrote:OddUlrich makes me barf! They're best friends!
Then barf. Barf somewhere else where gay/bi relationships are not being discussed, and don't repeatively tell us about it.
Rob wrote:Meh, IMO there is nothing wrong with homosexuality but OxU just seems like the kind of pairing that people make up for no better reason than to satisfy their fantasies. It just seems wrong to me.
I'm glad you're stating your opinions, but UxO is shipped throught the show. "Best friends" can easily turn into "boyfriends."

Love is not gender bound.
BTW, I do realise that some of those posts are really old, so if Jerfied, Rob and Taelia changed their ways or whatever, I'm not yelling at them. ;)


On the same note, I very much like the UxO pairing, it seems almost canon. Of course, the show comes from a regon where homosexuality is accepted.


Ya'know, if this was about a month ago, I probably would have agreed with everyone else- But lately, I've grown to accept the UO pairing. I actually like it.
Ever since I started watching 'Naruto' Homosexual pairings have been alright by me. Mostly because I adore the SasukeNaruto shipping. I respect you for sticking up for the UO pairing. Because alot of people flame it. ^__^

... Anyway.

OddAelita is my second favorite couple. They just act so cute together, and they would have a totally open and fun relashinship. It would eventually tie with UlrichYumi... Maybe. I really, Really like UlrichYumi... Like alot. ^__^
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Postby Skorpigeist » Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:30 am

I have said it before, and I will say it again, as long as things are well done and well written, I can stomach any sort of ship or pairing regardless of my sexual orientation ( which is straight, but this is a moot point)

In non canon couples, I too think that some people try to read way way to much into the story. Of course the fans are free to read the story anyway that they want, and that is what makes the relationship dynamic of CL interesting, there is room to read into things and make them your own. It is the essence of fanfiction romance, and not something that I want to see lost. The only stipulation is that a plausible reason for the implied canon pairing being broken should be included... I don't particuarly like to read stories where the pairings are just shattered, with no believeable explanation ( for example aelita leaving jeremie because he is abusive.... given his personality in the show, this is a very very very unlikely scenario... it would be more beliveable from the standpoint of jeremie ignoring her to much. of course there is the AU, but that is such a major cop out in a lot of cases)

Weighing in on the OddXAelita pairing, I think out of all of the non cannon, it is the most beliveable, and hints are everywhere.... Granted we must realize that odd is a very flirtatious character, and it is in his nature to appeal and tease the "skirts" (as some circles would call it). it is possible that the hints are intended for this very reason, but it could also be intended to shift the whole canon couple dynamic ( I mean each of these characters are only teens.... and you rarely, if ever stay with you first "love") Only time will tell if this is going to happen. Given the evidence from the show ( which is hard to see because each episode is not a single day, but sometimes a whole collection of days) Jeremie could really be in danger of losing Aelita if he does not spend more time with her.

Now to weigh in on homosexuality, everyone has thier own feelings and opinions on the matter, and each is free to believe and feel about this topic however they wish. I must say though that homosexuality is not an uncommon thing in the world, nor has it never been uncommon. The important thing to remember is that we are all humans and deserve a mutual respect. if you don't like what someone says, then you tune them out or don't continue disucssing the topic
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