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[Jazzy Josh offline]

That belongs in LTT II...but thanks anyway

oh, and thanks for making me a mod, JH

[JeremyHopper offline]

p.s. the current quantum computer uses 7 qubits max.

I thought I had read somewhere that quantum computers were not made yet. I'll have to research on that. Very interesting ideas.

[TB3]

i've just had a thought....which is rare.

to make a quantum computer that is powerful enough to house a virtual universe would take hundred of qubits.
according to season2- a great day the quantum computer they use gains a qubit every time a RTTP is launched.
if we wish to gain enough qubits we need to develop an rttp function and return back in time to add another qubit.

once the rttp function is complete this is the proccess of things that will happen:
1) a program is written to measure qubits
2) a test program is written to make a certain person remember what happened
start testing
3) 0:00 ---> the measurement program is run, the number is recorded and saved to the computer
4) 0:15 ---> the measurement program is run again
5) 0:25 ---> the test program is run
6) 0:30 ---> the rttp program is set to return to 0:10 (by the experiments time).

7) if the test program is successful then the user should remember what has transpired, if the program fails then the user should notice a significant different in the nuber of qubits, possibly 1 qubit per rttp

does anybody object to this idea.

p.s. the current quantum computer uses 7 qubits max.

Umm, no matter what the show says, the Supercomputer CANNOT gain a Qubit with every return trip, otherwise it would have doubled in power over 2500 times by now - with that many Qubits the computer would be able to simulate the entire universe past, present and future, which really is pushing things a bit!

What's more likely is that the computer adds a qubit after mutliple RTTPs (like every 500 or whatever) and then doubles in power - that's why XANA triggered off multiple jumps, to speed the process to it's conclusion.

Hope to see you in LTT2 soon though. And like JH, I have not heard of an actual Quantum Computer being in existance...

[JeremyHopper offline]

Yet, even though it's theoretical, scientists estimate that we will have the technology to make one VERY soon. It's not a matter of if we make one, it's a matter of when. It's very interesting actually how they work.

[darktemplar offline]

Some consideration: We don't need to represent all the universe as atoms. Some can be compressed into flat surfaces or geometrical figures if unused.

AND STILL REMEMBER THAT quantum algorithms need to be developed. ALSO REMEMBER THAT quantum algorithms are PROBABLISTIC, means for same inputs outputs can vary. Quantum computing does something like this:

We have qubits that can have values (1,0,superposition-10).
Do computations on these values
Now, read the values. When reading, superposition collapses and forms 1 or 0. That's why it's probablistic.

I also encourage you not to think about 3D graphics, becase it's far way to 3D graphics... if we can call it 3D, we have absolutely NO CONCEPTION of this world.

with that many Qubits the computer would be able to simulate the entire universe past, present and future, which really is pushing things a bit!

No way, still way too slow one

IF someone could explain me why every qubit more means 2x computational power?

[LadyLucy offline]

Whoa, this is cool stuff! I don't know much about computers, but if you want me too, I could try to get my boyfriend to join L.F. and help. He's at collage for tech. right now (Neo Aguni, if you've been to ff.net. THat's him. My Neo. ), and he's the computer genius. (he says he isn't, but he's being modest.) P.M. me, please?!
Lyoko RULES!!!

[mooshie offline]

actually there are some beta versions of supercomputers, only they only have like 2 qubits, and as stated above quantum algorithms still need to be developed, however qubits are not that powerfull, in fact they are comparable to normal bits however when paired with quantum algorithms they ca accomplish thing in almost the square root of the time it would take a normal computer, so my estimation is that the supercomputer (in virtual bits, because there are more of those because of the RTTPs) has about 50 petaqubits, but as always R.O.D.T.A.Y.W.

[darktemplar offline]

They're just faster than normal computer. But especially I don't like them as being probablistic. 50 peta hydrogen atoms weigh 8,365E-8 grams.

[JeremyHopper offline]

No actually, I'm pretty sure there are no such things yet as quantum computers. There are some supercomputers (computers that are just really fast or a bunch of computers hooked up together) that are comparable to a 1 qubit quantum computer though.

I also encourage you not to think about 3D graphics, becase it's far way to 3D graphics... if we can call it 3D, we have absolutely NO CONCEPTION of this world.

What do you mean? The algorithms developed by the first TRUE 3d games are believed to be equivilent to those of the real universe. Yeah, it's on a computer screen. But, it's like if you took a picture (or video) of your backyard. You can call it 3d. Actually, why am I rambling, I have no idea what you're talking about. Please elaborate.

P.S.: If you've just come to this thread, please let me remind you (this applies to all new memebers) we are no longer trying to litteraly make lyoko (this was going to be what I wanted to do in the first place but it would take too long and I have free time but not that much), we're actually making a video game. It's gonna be really cool.

Also, I'm working on the factory level for the game. It's coming along really well. I'll be uploading some screenshots of the level so far on the official forum of project xanadu.

[Rycr offline]

If you've just come to this thread, please let me remind you (this applies to all new memebers) we are no longer trying to litteraly make lyoko (this was going to be what I wanted to do in the first place but it would take too long and I have free time but not that much)

Exactly. Even if we were, we would NOT be trying to make the quantum computer itself (unless I misunderstood you, JH). I have no idea where you guys got the idea from. We were going to simulate Lyoko. Just Lyoko, not the computer, the return to the past, the scanners, or any of that. We were just going to create a 3d world, which is still what we're doing, I suppose.

And yes, primitive quantum computers have been created. IBM created a 7-qubit quantum computer in a test tube near the end of 2001. Here's the article.

[Daegon offline]

Yeah... I haven't been here in a while, could someone update me? And in case there has been some major developments, please E-Mail me the rough idea of what's happened. I'm @ Awgoodwin@netzero.net

[JeremyHopper offline]

Rycr, that's surprising that there actually is a quantum computer. I stand corrected. Good find!

[Tom Bone offline]

I can design!

[YDV offline]

If you've just come to this thread, please let me remind you (this applies to all new memebers) we are no longer trying to litteraly make lyoko (this was going to be what I wanted to do in the first place but it would take too long and I have free time but not that much)

Exactly. Even if we were, we would NOT be trying to make the quantum computer itself (unless I misunderstood you, JH). I have no idea where you guys got the idea from. We were going to simulate Lyoko. Just Lyoko, not the computer, the return to the past, the scanners, or any of that. We were just going to create a 3d world, which is still what we're doing, I suppose.

And yes, primitive quantum computers have been created. IBM created a 7-qubit quantum computer in a test tube near the end of 2001. Here's the article.

Um... emphasis on primative. Yes, it did indeed perform a quantum compution, which has phenomenal implications, but that experiment didn't even meet IBM's own criteria for a "practical" quantum computer.

*cough* Anyway.. um... xD; I know I haven't been around this project lately.... any developments?

[.:: Desound ::. offline]

Might as well have some 3D characters, there are some good programs on http://www.download.com It's a new world.
*Update* Ok, I got the forest sector finish. Go to lyoko2.com and click on .:: XANADU ::.

[Daegon offline]

uhhhh... I looked for "lyoko2.com, and I didn't find anything. Are you sure the website still exists? Or did you just have a typo back there?

[.:: Desound ::. offline]

No typo, maybe your computer, here is the link Lyoko 2.0

[Tom Bone offline]

I know i posted this, but I can design as in draw some sort of layout.

[JeremyHopper offline]

Your forest sector is good, but we're gonna need a forest sector that looks as much as the real thing as possible. For example, the trees in yours look like real trees. The forest trees in code lyoko don't. But I like your stuff.

[.:: Desound ::. offline]

I only got the program on Wed, 24TH, and I'm only 12. My Birthday was in April. So considering what I have done on a computer, I'm good for being on a computer everyday. And Also, 2 more sectors are finished.

[JeremyHopper offline]

Cool, I'll check for them. BY the way, you should come to the XANADU forum and post your pictures there. And I'm only 14 (but when I was 12 I couldn't minimize a window)

[.:: Desound ::. offline]

I'd do ANYTHING to do with Lyoko. And XANADU, is the Best project ever!

[JeremyHopper offline]

...okay, cool. But the project isn't really going on here at lyokofreak. You should come to the official xanadu forum. Just click on the red xanadu symbol in my signature. Then just sign up there. You can be a beta tester. Also, do you have any computer experience?

[Rudger offline]

I know that I am just a noob but I would love to help out in any way I can.
just give me the word and I will do my best to do what you ask.
If you dont need or want the help I am totally cool with that too.

[JeremyHopper offline]

Well if you want to help then sign up at the XANADU forum. Just click on the red xanadu symbol in my signature.