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Why would some of the CL fans who watch it in English think that Odd is gay?

Blame the ones who designed Odd's looks.
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Blame the ones who created Odd's lines.
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Blame Matthew Géczy.
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Postby Skipperdee » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:19 pm

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Skipperdee wrote:I think purple is a "pimp" color, for lack of a better word. Snoop Dogg and whoever else all wear sparkly purple suits, no one accuses them of being gay, no, they're pimps.

Personally I just can't see Odd being gay. As many people have said, there is a reason he has dated every girl in the grade except Sissi and Aelita.


Then why hasn't been satisfied with just one of them? I mean the system of odds (no pun) you'd think by know he'd of found that one girl. Or prehaps he's dating all these woman to cover up his in closet-ness.


maybe he's commitment-phobic. Just because he hasn't given his heart to one girl like Ulrich or Jeremie doesn't make him gay. He's like, what, 13? You can't expect everybody to magically find "the one" at such a young age. Besides, it seems to me Kadic isn't an incredibly large school, so it's not as if he's got a huge pool to choose from. There are millions of girls in the world. Give him a chance.
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Postby oddsgrlfriend » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:25 pm

About him not dating Aelita and Sissi. He has flirted with Aelita and I think in the future there will be an OddxSissi romance.
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Postby Skorpigeist » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:48 pm

The only reason I can think of odd being bisexual , and this is a bad assumption to make is because the character of odd reminds me of a close friend of mine who acts in the same manner and is bisexual. So for me, that is why I can see it. As for the show there is really no indication that odd is gay/bi/metro/ whatever. He is just himself and that is all he can be. It is the fan writers that can swing his orientation one way or the other.
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Postby G-Force » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:40 pm

RoDrInCuBuS wrote:
G-Force wrote:First off the whole argument that "Purple/Yellow/Pink are girl colors and if men wear them they're gay" is completely false. There are many characters who you wouldn't question their masqulinity in a second who choose to wear those colors.

Wolverine from X-Men: (Yellow spandex) The guy can slice you in half in a heartbeat and can dish it out as much as he can take it.

Magneto from X-Men: (Purple Armor) Can control metal. One of the most memorable comic book villians in existance.


Wolverine... if you combine yellow with a bit of black on their wardrobe, it looks straight. Hence Borussia Dortmund's uniform. Black and yellow combined looks cool. At least to me.

In those cases, which I know well... look, their faces are enough to not call them gay. Odd's a different case, compared to them and the other you listed.


I see what you mean and that's a very valid point however, that still reason alone is not justification to say that Odd is gay because of his character design. In anime and manga there are a HUGE amount of characters that are male who could be mistaken as women but are not considered gay. In fact, these individuals are actually very masculine and quite heroic. Take for example Rurouni Kenshin.

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Ok let's run down the list. First Kenshin wears pink, is drawn over purple backdrops, has long flowing (well kept) red hair and has big round eyes. Clearly he has taste in "girl" colors and even looks like a girl himself however, in the anime community, Kenshin is considered a prime example of manliness. Here we have two elements that would make a person think a particular character is "gay" but the end result is quite opposite to those assumptions.

Another character that defies this logic is Benimaru from King of Fighters.

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Again, we have a character with a flamboyant sense of clothing, in his case he's wearing a midrift. Has a outragous haircut and has gloves that cover his forearms, an article of clothing women usually wear with their long dresses. Now, is Benimaru gay? Absotultely not! He's the opposite. Benimaru is an tremendous flirt and actually gets a lot of girls to like him. He's not covering up for any hidden feelings. He consideres himself to be the ideal example of beauty and is not afraid to share that with the rest of the world.

The point I'm trying to make here is that it's IMPOSSIBLE to tell one's sexuality based on their looks or taste in clothes. Unless Person A flat out admits he's gay then you really can't prove a darn thing.

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Postby MY85 » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:27 pm

I see your points... but Kenshin's time era was different. I haven't seen much of R. Kenshin, but many people of his town couldn't even dare to judge him as gay because of his past. And I kinda think that homosexuality is forbidden at his town and if it happens, death penalty is a consequence of it.

Odd lives in a "modern world", unlike Kenshin. I don't know why he still remains with the same purple outfit. But if you can change his clothes and get rid of the purple spot on the hair and chop his hair down a bit

I barely played KOF, but after looking at Benimaru, I can say that without the flirting, he's pretty much eyed or able to be stereotyped as gay by the dressing. Sounds a bit like Odd.

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G-Force wrote:The point I'm trying to make here is that it's IMPOSSIBLE to tell one's sexuality based on their looks or taste in clothes.


Yup... it takes more than that. Voice, movements, flirting, etc.

I don't know if my points are valid.... :S
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Postby . » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:24 pm

RoDrInCuBuS wrote:I see your points... but Kenshin's time era was different. I haven't seen much of R. Kenshin, but many people of his town couldn't even dare to judge him as gay because of his past. And I kinda think that homosexuality is forbidden at his town and if it happens, death penalty is a consequence of it.

Odd lives in a "modern world", unlike Kenshin. I don't know why he still remains with the same purple outfit. But if you can change his clothes and get rid of the purple spot on the hair and chop his hair down a bit

I barely played KOF, but after looking at Benimaru, I can say that without the flirting, he's pretty much eyed or able to be stereotyped as gay by the dressing. Sounds a bit like Odd.

Here's a Benimaru pic, since G-Force's last link doesn't work for me.

G-Force wrote:The point I'm trying to make here is that it's IMPOSSIBLE to tell one's sexuality based on their looks or taste in clothes.


Yup... it takes more than that. Voice, movements, flirting, etc.

I don't know if my points are valid.... :S


accprdong to Samuri Champloo, in old era Japan homosexuality was viewed as more honorable then being straight.

But then again I don't know how much truth there is to that.
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Postby Jade » Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:28 pm

I think Odd is a little on the queer side, but definatly not gay! i mean, he kisses samantha, but, i've never ever in my life seen a guy wear purple. that's why i want with #1.

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Postby YDV » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:45 pm

Seriously? o___o

Guys wear pink and stuff all the time 'round here. >>; (Not that I mind it or anything... uh.. HOMGWAZZAT?! FLYING BANANAS! *points and runs*)
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Postby Mewberries151 » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:28 pm

G-Force wrote:
RoDrInCuBuS wrote:
G-Force wrote:First off the whole argument that "Purple/Yellow/Pink are girl colors and if men wear them they're gay" is completely false. There are many characters who you wouldn't question their masqulinity in a second who choose to wear those colors.

Wolverine from X-Men: (Yellow spandex) The guy can slice you in half in a heartbeat and can dish it out as much as he can take it.

Magneto from X-Men: (Purple Armor) Can control metal. One of the most memorable comic book villians in existance.


Wolverine... if you combine yellow with a bit of black on their wardrobe, it looks straight. Hence Borussia Dortmund's uniform. Black and yellow combined looks cool. At least to me.

In those cases, which I know well... look, their faces are enough to not call them gay. Odd's a different case, compared to them and the other you listed.


I see what you mean and that's a very valid point however, that still reason alone is not justification to say that Odd is gay because of his character design. In anime and manga there are a HUGE amount of characters that are male who could be mistaken as women but are not considered gay. In fact, these individuals are actually very masculine and quite heroic. Take for example Rurouni Kenshin.

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Ok let's run down the list. First Kenshin wears pink, is drawn over purple backdrops, has long flowing (well kept) red hair and has big round eyes. Clearly he has taste in "girl" colors and even looks like a girl himself however, in the anime community, Kenshin is considered a prime example of manliness. Here we have two elements that would make a person think a particular character is "gay" but the end result is quite opposite to those assumptions.

RoDrInCuBuS wrote:I see your points... but Kenshin's time era was different. I haven't seen much of R. Kenshin, but many people of his town couldn't even dare to judge him as gay because of his past. And I kinda think that homosexuality is forbidden at his town and if it happens, death penalty is a consequence of it.

Odd lives in a "modern world", unlike Kenshin. I don't know why he still remains with the same purple outfit. But if you can change his clothes and get rid of the purple spot on the hair and chop his hair down a bit.


Kenshin wears red and blue though in the Manga. The pink was only done in the anime, I believe. There is a hilarious fic on FF.net that explains why he wears pink called "The Rurouni's Guide to Idiocy" by RurouniGo-Chan. A basic sum-up of that explanation would be:

If you wear something really noticeable that doesn't fit in with the crowd or societal tastes...people are that less likely to want to take notice of you. XD

In any case, Ruroken is indeed a great example of slightly effeminate looking, but supremely masculine men. Shishio Makoto (one of the greatest RuroKen villains) would wear a purple cape from time to time, no doubt because purple is a color that marks "royalty and leadership". Enishi Yukishiro, another great RuroKen villain, wore orange clothing from time to time, and I'm nearly 100% positive he was straight. Rodri, you did admit you haven't seen the anime or read the manga, but that explanation is incorrect. In the story, during the time Kenshin is wearing his famous pink gi, hardly anyone knows who he really is, so it is not a matter of his identity saving him from being thought gay...in fact...I believe he's the butt of a few of those jokes during the anime anyway. XD

There is barely any outright mention of homosexuality in RuroKen, and it is by no means said within the Manga that in the Meiji Era, homosexuals were prosecuted (however, as that wasn't the focus of the story, I can't deduce anything further from that). There is one mention of tranvestite-ism in RuroKen, through the Juppongatana character of Kamatari (and again, this is more a source of humor than a serious matter).

In any case, before I go on a RuroKen rant, I'll check myself back on topic. ^^; In all fairness, one cannot judge a person as a homosexual based solely on their clothing, appearance, and/or personality.

In Odd's defense of wearing yellow, pink, and purple, and in the light of the points made about other cartoon characters wearing the similar colors but having a "masculine face" that overpowers it...remember this:

Odd is only 13 years old. At 13, boys may not have yet fully begun to grow and mature into their bodies, and because the "baby-softness" of the lines in their faces are still youthful, they can appear more feminine when compared to other boys (especially older boys).

With this point in mind, I would almost argue that Odd is still too young to have made any kind of decision about being bi or homosexual, but this is beside the point. My big arguement is that clothes don't make the man, and thusly, a man cannot be judged by his clothes and appearance along.
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Postby oddsgrlfriend » Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:33 pm

True but 13 is a teen. Odd would be pretty mature and judging by his bod in Tip-Top Shape Odd is mature enough to make his own choices. I said it once and I'll say it again. Odd is Odd. Don't try to understand him and he'll make sence.
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Postby . » Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:32 am

Hate to bump an old thread but I just remembered something.

Remember when Yumi was trapped on Lyoko and she had to take her school picture? Odd was pretty eager to dress up like Yumi for the day, don't cha think?
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Postby Grand_Commander13 » Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:31 am

And my straight friend was eager to dress me up as a girl so we'd have a booth babe. What's your point? :nyeh!:

(In my defense, I'd be a very pretty girl! :D )

And I'm straight too, dang it!

Oh, and back to Odd: His catboy thing he had going on in Lyoko, combined with the totally boss theme song, were the two things that got me to watch Code Lyoko in the first place. It's like "dude, he has a tail! That is so awesome!"
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Postby Xenon_&_Odd » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:24 am

^ lol

The only reason why my friend think Odd is gay because he wears and loves purple.
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Postby Grand_Commander13 » Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:39 am

I have long hair, does that make me a stoner? :)

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Postby Mewberries151 » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:19 pm

ThePepsiPiper wrote:Hate to bump an old thread but I just remembered something.

Remember when Yumi was trapped on Lyoko and she had to take her school picture? Odd was pretty eager to dress up like Yumi for the day, don't cha think?


I think he was joking with her. Odd tends to make jokes in the most serious of situations so that nobody gets down on themselves. He probably said that to try and make Yumi smile (seeing as how she was the one in a bit of a pickle).

I would definitely laugh at the thought of Odd dressing like Yumi...I'm pretty sure Odd was just trying to lighten the mood. XD

Grand_Commander13 wrote:And my straight friend was eager to dress me up as a girl so we'd have a booth babe. What's your point? :nyeh!:

(In my defense, I'd be a very pretty girl! :D )

And I'm straight too, dang it!


:*D That makes me think of a joke in SBSP...but that'd be getting off-topic. ^^;
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Postby Grand_Commander13 » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:30 pm

:*D That makes me think of a joke in SBSP...but that'd be getting off-topic. ^^;
"That hat makes you look like a girl." "Am I a pretty girl?"

Odd, like me, is just a goofball and doesn't really care. What I really want to see is him dressed up like a pirate (mostly just the hat, though). 8)
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Postby Mewberries151 » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:40 pm

Grand_Commander13 wrote:
:*D That makes me think of a joke in SBSP...but that'd be getting off-topic. ^^;
"That hat makes you look like a girl." "Am I a pretty girl?"


"Err...You're beautiful." *weird looks abound* X)

Grand_Commander13 wrote:Odd, like me, is just a goofball and doesn't really care. What I really want to see is him dressed up like a pirate (mostly just the hat, though). 8)


XD I actually once considered doing a POTC spoof with Odd as none other than Captain Jack Sparrow. He's certainly foppish enough to pull it off. :*D
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Postby Grand_Commander13 » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:44 pm

Foppish enough, weird enough, and gutsy enough. :)

Why is it that Jack Sparrow and Odd are both such awesome characters? Oh yeah, they're both weird as hell, in endearing ways. And they're both total players, yet bad at it at the same time. (Remember, both have been slapped by several women.)
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Postby Kim » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:49 pm

Grand_Commander13 wrote:Why is it that Jack Sparrow and Odd are both such awesome characters? Oh yeah, they're both weird as hell, in endearing ways. And they're both total players, yet bad at it at the same time. (Remember, both have been slapped by several women.)


True, and we girls (or at least me) love both of 'em to death! :D
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