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Postby Chosen_one » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:37 pm

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Chosen_one wrote:Most likely the supercomputer recognizes clothes and only transfers human beings. That's why the test tube wasn't transferred in "Just in Time."


The polymorphic clone in "Revelation" begs to differ with that statement.
Well, the clone looked just like Odd, so I'm guessing the computer must detect organisms by how they look rather by their atomic structure. The polymorph functioned like a real human being, so it like transferred.

When people are trasferred back to Earth, their clothes are materialized along with their bodies.
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Postby Reesane » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:54 pm

Chosen_one wrote:When people are trasferred back to Earth, their clothes are materialized along with their bodies.


Unless, off couse, their is an error.... O_o
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Postby Sithking Zero » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:53 pm

Reesane wrote:
Chosen_one wrote:When people are trasferred back to Earth, their clothes are materialized along with their bodies.


Unless, off couse, their is an error.... O_o


Actually, before I saw "Code: Earth," that's how I thought Aelita was most likely to come to earth, since Jeremie might not have included a way for clothes to come to earth. O_o. Yeah, a little weird, but I was trying to think realistically. All through season II I wondered how that was possible that she had clothes, until I saw "The Key." I think we all remember the flashbacks, and you can probably guess why that answered my question.
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Postby Key » Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:06 pm

My gues is that the computer cad differate a certain aspect in skin, and clothes. Or, it's just sent back the way it came. Nothing changes...it just looks different...?
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Postby mooshie » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:55 am

I'm fairly sure this was gone over in the original let's talk tech, but here it is once more, when you are scanned it is not only DNA but vDNA, which has four helixes, and in addition to DNA, includes physical appearance (height nutrition bladder content, physical ailments...), non physical aspects (such as clothes) lyoko apperance/powers etc., and yes this is how I actually talk in real life when talking about sci - fi or science
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Postby TB3 » Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:47 am

Mooshie has it right - vDNA is not a virtualised DNA strand, but something very different.

When virtualised, ALL of the scan data is encoded as a two-strand vDNA spiral.

This is then combined with a second vDNA strand containing all of your Lyoko data and programming.

The two strands in some places suppress each other or work together (i.e. overlaying the data regarding clothing with your Lyoko outfit) to give the final avatar.

Finally this four-strand vDNA spiral is run into the particle simulation system which makes up the bedrock of Lyoko, and virtualised as a 3D virtual construction out of simulated particles known as 'Blocks' (the Lyoko equivilent of Polygons).

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Postby Reesane » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:00 am

Reesane wrote:*grumbles* Well, I realy never wanted to do this, but it's time I bring up my other hobby in LTT: Creatures. Creatures is a vurtulal life simulation in which there are three difrent breads of vurtual creatures: Norns, Ettenns, and Grendles. They have DDNA (Digetal DNA). more importently for this discushion, however, is their primitve vurtual brain. Basicly, their brains a simmler to a real animals brain. I think that the games are just a simplefyed version of Lyoko.

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The Norn brain.
The "Are creatures alive debates"
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I'll sumerise latter if I have the time.


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Postby Key » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:32 pm

Well, what does that have to do with Lyoko again?

I mean, I read it and all. But what really interested me about it was that it has a Desktop Buddy that you could feed and pamper. I'd like to see that!
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Postby Reesane » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:49 pm

It is a funtionaing artifical brain....... A primitive AI that responds to its enviroment and is capeble of learning- and it is from 1993. That was ment to prove that you can build an AI with the technology avalble back in the time when FH was programing XANA. If XANA is based off of the human brain, it shows use one of the ways FH could have built him- like the norn, but much, much, much more complex.

I'll ask people at the creatures fourm for help gathering more data latter.

By the way, a norn is more than a desk top buddy.
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Postby Cassius335 » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:53 pm

Reesane wrote:By the way, a norn is more than a desk top buddy.


It's a XANA attack waiting to happen.
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Postby Reesane » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:56 pm

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Reesane wrote:By the way, a norn is more than a desk top buddy.


It's a XANA attack waiting to happen.


*invisions XANA giving the norns an itelgence bost, then having them help him take over the world*
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Postby mooshie » Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:55 pm

well keep in mind that when the kids are scanned the "AI" created is a simulation of their neurons firing, so I suppose the monsters would be stripped down versions of the kids, so amore complex norn brain may be it, it also may be adapted animal brains that franz hopper scanned in

EDIT: by the way *does the happy dance* I remembered the vDNA eplanation, that was entirely from memory, POWER NERD :D
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Postby mooshie » Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:13 pm

just two things, we prefer to stick with what's scientifically plausible, and we concluded that the supercomputer uses lead 210
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Postby TB3 » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:27 pm

ONE YEAR AGO

On November 14th 2005, at 2.01pm GMT, TB3 wrote:This is a little thread I churned out so we could talk technical about how the wonderful technology of CL works.

NOTE: Many of you will have noticed since I lectured (like a jerk) on how the RTTP worked that I have changed some of my theories - in main the replacement of Darkmatter with Zero Point Energy.

Here's my first little essay;

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Most sci-fi realities, as we are know, have one large 'plot-point' bit of fictional science which makes the other elements possible.

This is the mcguffin - from it all other impossibilities become possible. In Star Trek, it's Zefram Cochrane's Warp Drive (other technology came from the Vulcans after First Contact). In Back to the Future, it's Emmett Brown's Flux Cappacitor (it makes time-travel possible and allows for Temporal Causality/Paradox). In Terminator, Miles Dyson's Neural Net Processor (Skynet, HKs, the Terminators themselves).

So, trying to lump together all the high tech science of Lyoko under a common parent led me to this.

The metal - the gold/grey metal that the scanners are made of, and which appears to be used in the supercomputer.

I call it EXERTANIUM - an artificial metal that functions as a room-temperature superconductor.

This unique property allows Exertanium to be used in several unusual ways - in computers, not only replacing fibre-optics as there is 0.0% energy loss, but also to increase the power of a computer pound-for-pound as there is no need for cooling systems etc. A sufficently powerful computer constructed primarily of Exertanium could well become the prototype for Quantum coding (using all the digits 0-9 instead of 0-1).

Also, since exertanium conducts electricity with no energy loss, it can be used to sense the electrical signature of individual atoms, thus allowing the creation of a 100% accurate virtual model of any object, were it to be used in a scanner.

Exertanium has one other trick up it's sleeve, through the Heisenburg Uncertanty Principle and Quantum Harmonics Oscillation, electrical current travelling through coils of exertanium interacts with ZERO-POINT ENERGY, a paralell level of existance to our own. This allows for interesting uses of Exertanium, as ZPE can maniuplate our universe at a fraction of the energy costs inherant, as it is doing it from an alternate plane of existance where our laws of physics need not apply.

So, applying all this to a scanner;

A scanner consists of four parts - the chamber, the walls, the scanner ring, and the cap. The cap contains a controlling computer, and is also the hub for the data and power feeds.

The walls are actually two panels of Exertanium, with coils of the metal arranged veritcally inside the half-inch gap between the two walls.

The chamber is the open space where scanning takes place.

The ring is not made solely of exertanium, but uses it inside for scanning purposes.

So, when a kid steps into a scanner - the following happens;

The scanner doors shut and the interior wall makes a rough virtual-model of the kid.

Jeremie activates the scanner and matches it to the person inside - the transfer protocol is compared to the model in order to confirm who the person is -a safety feature.

Jeremie begins the transfer proceedure.

The ZPE coils begin to power up, causing flecks of ZPE to flood the chamber. When this has reached sufficient strength the kid is levitated upwards (think the Incredibles and Syndrome's ZPE glove).

At the same time the scanner ring descends from the ceiling, doing an indepth scan of the subject.

The resulting data is uploaded to the wireframe model for the subject and held in a buffer folder.

As soon as all data is uploaded Jeremie enters the Virtualisation command. Simultaeneously the buffer folder is discharged into Lyoko, fusing the virtual particles of the subject, and ZPE is used to convert the original body into energy which is stored in capacitors for the return trip.

This ZPE technology is also used in the Holo-sphere emitter in order to achieve the RTTP, and in the power-chamber in order to convert the emitted particles and radiation of Uranium 234 into electrical energy to power the system.

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Any good? Feel free to argue against this or present your own arguments or ramble on anything technical - Virtualisation, Pixelisation, RTTP anything!


:occasion4: HAPPY BIRTHDAY LTT! :occasion4:

In 365 days, LTT has ammassed near 1,900 posts, several hundred pages of theories, ideas ratified my debate and reasoning...

And it has a 70-page essay currently in the hands of Director Jerome Mouscadet, who:

A: Likes it!
B: Likes it enough to show it to the producers and head scriptwriter!
C: Confirmed several of our ideas during our meeting, such as the longetivity of the nuclear battery and the use of Quantum Dot Processors!

Lyokologists, you have done something incredible, something without precedent in CL's history.

And it's not over yet - Jerome wants to hear MORE of our ideas, and the essay only covered the mechanical elements of CL's tech.

So I urge you guys, reread the threads and essays, look for errors, new ideas, developments and keep an eye out for scientific theories and developments that might have a theory.

Let's all drive LTT on for another year!

LONG LIVE 'LET'S TALK TECH' AND THE LYOKOLOGISTS!

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LONG LIVE LYOKOFREAK, WHICH MADE ALL THIS POSSIBLE!


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Postby Cassius335 » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:31 pm

*raises glass in toast*
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Postby TB3 » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:36 pm

Cassius335 wrote:*raises glass in toast*


:) "AMEN TO THAT!" :)

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Postby Reesane » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:01 pm

A toast to LF and LTT!
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Postby Cassius335 » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:06 pm

I was this close to making a similar joke... :)
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Postby Lani » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:10 pm

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LTT!!! (YDV says iFELIZ CUMPLEANOS! 8DD too) Congrats on one year! Simply amazing :D

Also, <s>I have an extendable neck</s> by the time LTT turns two, CL will probably be done with its 4th season, and I will be in Japan D: Ohhh noooes!

Ah well, long live LTT! *eats toast*
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Postby Reesane » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:16 pm

NOT Lani wrote:HAPPY BIRTHDAY LTT!!! (YDV says iFELIZ CUMPLEANOS! 8DD too) Congrats on one year! Simply amazing :D

Also, <s>I have an extendable neck</s> by the time LTT turns two, CL will probably be done with its 4th season, and I will be in Japan D: Ohhh noooes!

Ah well, long live LTT! *eats toast*


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Postby Blue Armor Boy » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:20 pm

HAPPY FREAKIN' BIRTHDAY!!! Sorry I dont post here much, you guys talk about all this fancy stuff I have no idea about :horns: but that dosen't mean I can't be happy for ya!
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Postby Astro-Xana » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:31 pm

Just being silly, but is that really a piece of toast you just posted with a square piece of butter on it, or is it an image from Season 4 with a yellow square platform down in the depths of what appears to be a canyon-like surrounding? Also, are those two glasses not glasses at all and is an image from Season 4 as well in which it appears as though a golden robotic entity in a golden background is being virtualized into the Internet from the feet upward (denoted by the solid golden part of the legs [the golden liquid in the glass] and the empty part at the top which has yet to be filled)? Or it could be that the golden liquid in the glasses are two arenas contained within a clear electrical barrier of some sort (which is the glass which appears as clear electricity).

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Postby mooshie » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:09 pm

fairly sure it's real toast and real alchohol


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Postby Sithking Zero » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:35 pm

Here's to TB3, Cassius, and the Lyokologists who made this possible!
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