June 6th 1994 - Franz Hopper's D-Day

[TL.]

I just realised something.

June 6th, 1994: The agents of Project Carthage arrive at the Hermitage - to reclaim what is theirs. The rest of France is in celebration;

June 6th 1944: Fifty years ago, Allied Forces land in Normandy, to reclaim France.

Is this co-incidence? That the pivotal moment in Code Lyoko's history occurs half a century after the pivotal moment of World War Two?

A day of invasion.

A day of violence.

A day of war.

A day when new technology was used in action for the first time.

Just what happened that day might remain a mystery - but if this imagery was intended, then the writers have done something very, very cool, and from it, we can guess quite well what else might have gone on.

And it might also explain why Aelita was dressed in some of her nicest clothes and where she was returning to the Hermitage from on her bike - a celebration parade possibly? Or a memorial service.

June the Sixth. A day of many achievements.

[Darkborn offline]

Hmm, Very weird. Wasn't Xana created to interfere with Military Programs? Maybe the German Military or something.

[Lyokofreak offline]

Then how did franz lose control of Xana???

[Overcaffeinated Sloth offline]

XANA, like most growing artificial intelligence running programs, decided it shouldn't take orders from inferior beings, and most likely did a slow working plot to overthrow the world, or had a main command to protect the humankind from harm, which meant killing off people deemed hazardous. And eventually freezing evolution and the ability to gain knowlege.

If you have seen IRobot, you know what I'm talking about..

Actually, XANA is a lot like VIKI from IRobot. Just looking at the name you can see!
XANA
VIKI
XANA
VIKI

OOH! Someone could do a XAXAxVIKI thing! I'll do that later, back on topic.

[KayLenny#7 offline]

That is just world destruction waiting to happen.

[TaskForceLyoko offline]

I think the writers just picked a significant day and went with it. I don't think they had symbolism in mind. I'm going off memory here so I may be wrong, but they never really made it clear who the black suits were, or why they were after Hopper. And I always thought Carthage was Hopper's creation, being that it's in his supercomputer and the center of Lyoko.

We're also assuming Franz Hopper is the good guy here, through Aelita's memories and viewpoint.

[Cassius335 offline]

We're also assuming Franz Hopper is the good guy here, through Aelita's memories and viewpoint.

Valid point.

[Osiris offline]

I’m not really sure it may have some significance as the show is French hmm.
You said this might mean we could guess what else could have happened what sort of other ideas were you thinking of?

[DeadViolet offline]

ummms.....okay....

[Lyokofreak offline]

Why would you doubt mr franz hopper?

[dr xana offline]

i think its just a coincidence but who knows

bam random image from my computer

[TaskForceLyoko offline]

Why would you doubt mr franz hopper?

A natural distrust of the French.

But why would you trust Franz Hopper?

[Cassius335 offline]

ummms.....okay....

You know, looking at your sig, you remind me of another Erika.

[Pika53 offline]

One thing that has always confused me on the subject is the date. The problem I have is that in the episode "Revalation" the date June 6th, 1994 is mentioned in Hopper's video diary. Yet, in the episode "Common Interest" the uranium battery needs to be replaced. If I remember my phys. science correctly, uranium has a half-life of about thirty years. How long has the computer been running?

[Darkborn offline]

Someone proboly shut Xana off, The kids turned him back on sometime later, no one actually knows, so the battery hasn't always been runing.

[YDV offline]

One thing that has always confused me on the subject is the date. The problem I have is that in the episode "Revalation" the date June 6th, 1994 is mentioned in Hopper's video diary. Yet, in the episode "Common Interest" the uranium battery needs to be replaced. If I remember my phys. science correctly, uranium has a half-life of about thirty years. How long has the computer been running?

I believe construction began sometime during the 1970's (source via the photograph in the end credits), when Project Carthage was in full force.. makes perfect sense.

XANA, like most growing artificial intelligence running programs, decided it shouldn't take orders from inferior beings, and most likely did a slow working plot to overthrow the world, or had a main command to protect the humankind from harm, which meant killing off people deemed hazardous. And eventually freezing evolution and the ability to gain knowlege.

If you have seen IRobot, you know what I'm talking about..

Actually, XANA is a lot like VIKI from IRobot. Just looking at the name you can see!
XANA
VIKI
XANA
VIKI

OOH! Someone could do a XAXAxVIKI thing! Crying with Laughter I'll do that later, back on topic.

THANK YOU! omg, so I'm not the only one who noticed that!

June 6th, 1994: The agents of Project Carthage arrive at the Hermitage - to reclaim what is theirs. The rest of France is in celebration;

I dunno if that's all that accurate... because technically the supercomputer wasn't theirs although Hopper most likely used funding from the Project to build it. All speculation though, I haven't seen the prequel.

Eh... I would explain my theory on this but basically it's mirrored in the last essay in LTT and people need to read there more anyway, so...

I think the writers just picked a significant day and went with it. I don't think they had symbolism in mind. I'm going off memory here so I may be wrong, but they never really made it clear who the black suits were, or why they were after Hopper. And I always thought Carthage was Hopper's creation, being that it's in his supercomputer and the center of Lyoko.

We're also assuming Franz Hopper is the good guy here, through Aelita's memories and viewpoint.

...I think they actually did mean some symbolism here, for once. And no, they didn't make it clear who the "Men In Black" as Aelita called them where, but we're 98% sure they were government agents. I used to think they were from the Police Judiciaire, the French equivelent of the FBI, but now that I know Project Carthage was a military operation, they may have also been from the Direction du Renseignement Militaire, or the Directorate of Military Intelligence. Or just some faceless "agency" that the writers made up because they're lazy. >>;;

No, Carthage is the nickname for the core of Lyoko, and Project Carthage is the military program (of what we do not know) that Hopper was deadset (literally) on combatting, through use of the supercomputer. Lyoko most likely was originally intended as the operating system for the computer, and was modified into a virtual world during Hopper's Seven Years of June the Sixth while his paranoia that "they" were going to get him and his growing mental instability began to get the best of him.

A natural distrust of the French.

But why would you trust Franz Hopper?

How dare thee! :O (Actually I just like the French because they A) They created CL B) The language pwns C) They make awesome music. But that's beside the point.)

What reason do you have to not trust Hopper? After all, he IS Aelita's father, after all. She's kinda the epitome of goodness here.

[Pika53 offline]

Thank you for explaining that Darkborn and Your De-Virtualization, things make more since to me now.

[Skorpigeist offline]

One thing that has always confused me on the subject is the date. The problem I have is that in the episode "Revalation" the date June 6th, 1994 is mentioned in Hopper's video diary. Yet, in the episode "Common Interest" the uranium battery needs to be replaced. If I remember my phys. science correctly, uranium has a half-life of about thirty years. How long has the computer been running?

hmm well according to the sources I have at hand uranium 238 ( the most common form) has a half life of 4.5 billion years. and the half life of uranium 235-( the kind used in fission reactions and much rarer) has a half life of 713 million years. just thought that should be said and someone else out there please correct me if I am wrong.

[Pika53 offline]

Skorpigeist wrote:
hmm well according to the sources I have at hand uranium 238 ( the most common form) has a half life of 4.5 billion years. and the half life of uranium 235-( the kind used in fission reactions and much rarer) has a half life of 713 million years. just thought that should be said and someone else out there please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks for pointing out my error. I didn't realize how far off my estament was regarding the half-life of Uranium.

[Skorpigeist offline]

Skorpigeist wrote:
hmm well according to the sources I have at hand uranium 238 ( the most common form) has a half life of 4.5 billion years. and the half life of uranium 235-( the kind used in fission reactions and much rarer) has a half life of 713 million years. just thought that should be said and someone else out there please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks for pointing out my error. I didn't realize how far off my estament was regarding the half-life of Uranium.

I hope you didn't take offence to that. I don't think the battery runs on radioactive decay but perhaps controlled fission? I think that may be somewhere in the Let's talk tech thread. if that were the case maybe you could have enough uranium to last an extended period of time

[Jeremified offline]

OOH! Someone could do a XAXAxVIKI thing! I'll do that later, back on topic.

Sorry to point this out, but you misspelled XANA.

I think the producers of CL made it June 6th on purpose. That's my opinion.

[darktemplar offline]

I agree. Quite funny date =).

WHY DO PEOPLE MUST ALWAYS BUILD AI'S THAT ARE NOT LIMITED BY ANYTHING

[TB3]

Skorpigeist wrote:
hmm well according to the sources I have at hand uranium 238 ( the most common form) has a half life of 4.5 billion years. and the half life of uranium 235-( the kind used in fission reactions and much rarer) has a half life of 713 million years. just thought that should be said and someone else out there please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks for pointing out my error. I didn't realize how far off my estament was regarding the half-life of Uranium.

I hope you didn't take offence to that. I don't think the battery runs on radioactive decay but perhaps controlled fission? I think that may be somewhere in the Let's talk tech thread. if that were the case maybe you could have enough uranium to last an extended period of time

We think that the nuclear battery runs off a matter/energy exchange, much like happens in the scanners - also I doubt it is uranium that is used - if it were, then Jeremie and Peter Duncan both have critical poisoning - what is most likely is that an isotope of Uranium is used called Lead210 - this has a half-life of 20-30 years as well which is perfect for the show - the emitted radiation is also particulate, meaning there is no gamma-radiation to cause radiation poisoning.

[YDV offline]

Skorpigeist wrote:
hmm well according to the sources I have at hand uranium 238 ( the most common form) has a half life of 4.5 billion years. and the half life of uranium 235-( the kind used in fission reactions and much rarer) has a half life of 713 million years. just thought that should be said and someone else out there please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks for pointing out my error. I didn't realize how far off my estament was regarding the half-life of Uranium.

I hope you didn't take offence to that. I don't think the battery runs on radioactive decay but perhaps controlled fission? I think that may be somewhere in the Let's talk tech thread. if that were the case maybe you could have enough uranium to last an extended period of time

We think that the nuclear battery runs off a matter/energy exchange, much like happens in the scanners - also I doubt it is uranium that is used - if it were, then Jeremie and Peter Duncan both have critical poisoning - what is most likely is that an isotope of Uranium is used called Lead210 - this has a half-life of 20-30 years as well which is perfect for the show - the emitted radiation is also particulate, meaning there is no gamma-radiation to cause radiation poisoning.

Agreed.

(Another reason why LTT pwns the world. ...I should start a brand of T-shirts. xD)

[Kim offline]

Wow...never noticed that before. That's weird. I guess it could be a coinsidence or it could be symbolizing something. Hmm...makes you think...ouch...