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A possible explanation of XANA

Postby Chosen_one » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:08 pm

I have a possible explanation of why XANA decided to rebel. It's on my website.
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Postby KayLenny#7 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:29 pm

That actually makes sense. I never would have thought of something like that...
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Postby Chad Rains » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:48 pm

Actually, the one bit on there talking about "Lyokons" is way off base. theres no such thing as a "Lyokon". The only reason why Aelita was in the situation she was in where she couldnt be devirtualized if she lost all her LP's was because she lost her human DNA as a result of whatever mess happened when she was first virtualized along with FH. If you recall the episode "Missing Link", the same thing happened to Yumi here as well.
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Postby Chosen_one » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:32 pm

But then...
Aelita's been like that throughout the entire series. If she didn't have her DNA code, how could she have given it to Yumi during Missing Link?
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Postby Chad Rains » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:41 pm

she did have it. the one that Jeremie had created for her so that she was able to be materialized at the end of season 1. but it wasnt foolproof. she still needed to be materialized through the materialization program.
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Postby Taelia » Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:42 pm

Yeah, there's no such thing as a Lyokon. Just a defender.
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Postby Jeremified » Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:12 pm

Actually, there is such a thing as a "lyokon". This webpage says so.
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Postby Aurelius » Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:50 pm

This was just a joke idea for my friends, but they find out Jim was controlling XANA the whole time.
Jeremie: Jim! How could you do this? You were controlling an evil computer program trying to destroy humans!
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Postby Jeremified » Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:53 pm

Aurelius wrote:Jim: Evil computer program? I thought it was Neopets!
rofl !!!
Sorry, I know that just posting a smiley is considered spam, but it's still enough to describe that idea!
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Postby Mewberries151 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:00 pm

Jeremified wrote:Actually, there is such a thing as a "lyokon". This webpage says so.


Yes, but Wikipedia's information is not always correct. Since it is contirbuted mostly by other online go-ers, some of the information can be incorrect.

Also, according to that Wikipedia article...a Lyokon is anyone who travels to Lyoko. Not necessarily a person who "lives" there like Aelita. Franz, and XANA or is dependant upon it's existence. In that case, that Wikipedia article actually proves that that fansite's idea of a Lyokon is incorrect.

The part about the French version referring to it as "A World Without Danger" is also incorrect. They called it Lyoko. The theme song is the only place in which it is referred to as "A World Without Danger" in either the English or French versions.

Fan sites are not always reliable...and this one lacks a source for it's theory, which makes it rather suspicious as to the rest of its accuracy, unfortunately.

Edit: Also...isn't that your website that you've linked us too? ^^ I just noticed the URL address and the one you list in your profile are rather similar.
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Postby Chosen_one » Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:01 pm

Yes, it is in a subdomain of my website.
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Chosen_one wrote:I have a possible explanation of why XANA decided to rebel. It's on my website.
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Postby TB3 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:17 pm

I've got a theory as well as to why XANA rebelled - I'm about to post it in Let's Talk Tech, a thread I think you'll enjoy.

Chosen_one wrote:But then...
Aelita's been like that throughout the entire series. If she didn't have her DNA code, how could she have given it to Yumi during Missing Link?


This was a bit of shddy writing - Aelita could NOT give her DNA code to Yumi because DNA is unique to every person (Yumi would come back in Aelita's body) - also Aelita does NOT carry DNA with her, otherwie she could be devirtualised.

We theorise that XANA actually took Yumi's 'DNA sequence code', a standard program to all the kids saying how their virtual coding is translated back into DNA - does this make sense?
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Postby Chosen_one » Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:28 pm

The DNA sequence code is what I meant.
Also, can you tell us what the new thread is called?
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Postby TB3 » Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:33 pm

Chosen_one wrote:The DNA sequence code is what I meant.
Also, can you tell us what the new thread is called?


Pardon but what new thread?
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Postby Chosen_one » Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:30 pm

TB3 wrote:I've got a theory as well as to why XANA rebelled - I'm about to post it in Let's Talk Tech, a thread I think you'll enjoy.

Chosen_one wrote:But then...
Aelita's been like that throughout the entire series. If she didn't have her DNA code, how could she have given it to Yumi during Missing Link?


This was a bit of shddy writing - Aelita could NOT give her DNA code to Yumi because DNA is unique to every person (Yumi would come back in Aelita's body) - also Aelita does NOT carry DNA with her, otherwie she could be devirtualised.

We theorise that XANA actually took Yumi's 'DNA sequence code', a standard program to all the kids saying how their virtual coding is translated back into DNA - does this make sense?

In the beginning... it said
TB3 wrote:I'm about to post it in Let's Talk Tech, a thread I think you'll enjoy.

Is that the new thread?
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Postby TB3 » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:32 pm

Not quite - Let's Talk Tech is a thread that has been running since November 2005 - there myself and others have been wrangling out all the sci-fi tech behind Lyoko - as well as it's hardware, software and OS. That done of late I've been writing and posting essays summarising our theories and the last, about Lyoko, Carthage, XANA etc went up last night.

Now I'm writing up a second draft which we intend to send to Moonscoop!

Feel free to PM me with any questions you might have - or nip over there and have a look at it's 950 posts to date! :)
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Postby Chosen_one » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:05 pm

Make sure to give me credit!

And could you cite me as Supernaturalist rather than Chosen_one?
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Postby Overcaffeinated Sloth » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:15 pm

first off: It's a bit hard to reas with white text and white BG.
Second on: Wikipedia Sucks out loud on ice.
TThird of all: What's wrong with neopets?

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Re: A possible explanation of XANA

Postby Odd22 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:35 pm

Chosen_one wrote:I have a possible explanation of why XANA decided to rebel. It's on my website.
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Thats actuallly wrong see I remember Franz saying XANA was built to destroy carthage and HE made Lyoko. He madew lyoko for himself and Aelita, I dont know if he built XANA himself but the essay on the link is incorrect. I think this is right i swear it is but i have bas luck
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Postby Chosen_one » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:41 pm

XANA did not create Lyoko. If you remember the episode (I think it was either Franz Hopper or The Key), this is what Franz said:
Franz Hopper wrote:I created the Supercomputer, Lyoko, and last of all, XANA
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Postby animenologist » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:47 pm

Though its an interesting theory, its not completely accurate nor original. The word Lyokon is not a term used in-show and different fans use different phrases to describe Lyoko travelers and residents (I prefer the word Lyokian, myself). And a lot of this has been suggested and discussed a long while ago before in Let's Talk Tech. Actually, I believe I was the first one to pose that the supercomputer's processing power and memory was due to the fact that he went back in time for 7 years worth of time, as well as any hardware that Hopper created during that time (since he could easily replicate it, if he had knowledge of the scanners materialization capabilities).

And as TB3 stated, Aelita requires the supercomputer because she lost a bit of her "vDNA" around the time of her first virtualization, due to XANA's actions. Though Aelita was not a complete human thanks to her incomplet vDNA, she may have had parts that could of been transferred to Yumi in order to complete hers. Otherwise, she is basically treated as a digital creation like any other monster.

As for XANA, we've already posed 3 possibilities in LTT about XANA's betrayal. One is that a virus was used to infect the supercomputer. This implies that a malevolent force outside Hopper caused the problems. Which would make sense, since Hopper had enemies, probably from Project Carthage. Two, was that XANA gained sentience and rebelled against its master, like the robots from the Matrix or Skynet from the Terminator movies. We thought this one is likely, since the exact same thing happened in Marabounta, where Jeremie's multi-agent system became self aware and independent. We also believe XANA was based on the exact same system, from the episode Franz Hopper. Third was that due to inherent flaws in the programming, XANA perverted the logic programmed into it, like EDY from Stealth and VIKI from I, Robot.

If you want, you can look through LTT, we've pretty much have thoughts on almost everything technical about Lyoko, but we're always looking for more thoughts and views.
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Postby Chosen_one » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:55 pm

Does Let's Talk Tech imply that XANA got smart enough to know that it was being used and manipulated and therefore got pissed off at mankind?
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Postby animenologist » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:09 pm

Pretty sure someone did. I remember someone saying that its possible that after XANA gained sentience, he rebelled because his no longer wished to be Hopper's tool, and added in the reason that XANA was a sentient and superior being, not meant to be a tool for who he considers inferior. But you would need to look through 963 posts of technobabble, collaboration, and some spam and applause here and there to find it. Its huge, and probably the only CL discussion topic to be so close to shutting down.
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Postby TB3 » Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:00 pm

animenologist wrote:But you would need to look through 963 posts of technobabble, collaboration, and some spam and applause here and there to find it. Its huge, and probably the only CL discussion topic to be so close to shutting down.


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Postby Taelia » Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:15 pm

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