One question about the style of Fighting of Odd and Ulrich..

[Odd675 offline]

i watched the episode previously: "Franz Hopper" in Lyoko..i watched Odd's style of fighting..that style..it reminds me about Ken Masters from Street Fighter Alpha 3 (or SF: Zero 3) and Ulrich..he have the style of Ryu from the same Street Fighter Alpha 3..how they know the old style of fighting like Ken Masters and Ryu?

P.D: if you don't know about Ryu and Ken..here's the photo:

http://www.karatedojo.com/cels/graphics/SF_cel02.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7773/alavieja4hu.jpg
left: it's Ryu and right: Ken Masters

P.D2: i hope Aelita and the others never see that topic! ^^;[/url]

[MY85 offline]

Odd and Ulrich seem the kind of persons who would play videogames... at least, Odd is spotted playing with a GBA.

Well, the French always await for movies that contain violence with the same vigor as Americans do.

And for the record, they had to fight that way for lack of weapons... the XANA-Hopper disabled them.

You could have posted this on the Franz Hopper (The Episode thread)... but if someone else has to say something about it, I don't mind.

Just out of curiosity... how did you watched this episode? On Jetix?

[animenologist offline]

Only know the Street Fighter series superficially and never been a fan of the games, but Ulrich's style is Pencak Silat, atleast thats what he says it is. He mentioned it numerous times in previous episodes.

As for Odd, that doesn't look like how Ken fights, not in the least. Ken and Ryu are for the most part clones of each other, sharing similar moves and even studying from the same school. Odd as portrayed in Franz Hopper was clearly doing western boxing, the foot work and punches give it away (and if not that, the bell and crowd cheering reinforces it). Though he did throw in some of that Odd showmanship with the head butt and the wind up punch. Though the way Odd fights in the real world seems to be a whole lot of random unpredictable moves combined with his natural atheleticism.

[MY85 offline]

As for Odd, that doesn't look like how Ken fights, not in the least. Ken and Ryu are for the most part clones of each other, sharing similar moves and even studying from the same school.

Agreed, expect for the part that Ryu has more strength than Ken and Ken's a bit more faster than Ryu.

[Taelia offline]

I actually have wondered this myself.

[animenologist offline]

As for Odd, that doesn't look like how Ken fights, not in the least. Ken and Ryu are for the most part clones of each other, sharing similar moves and even studying from the same school.

Agreed, expect for the part that Ryu has more strength than Ken and Ken's a bit more faster than Ryu.

Thus the qualifier most part. Ken basically goes for stylish unpredictability while Ryu focuses more on technique (atleast what wikipedia states). And in other games, beyond SFII, they are given differences to help deviate them even further. But still for the most part, they are almost clones of each other.

[Taelia offline]

What about in the case of Odd and Ulrich?

[Odd675 offline]

As for Odd, that doesn't look like how Ken fights, not in the least. Ken and Ryu are for the most part clones of each other, sharing similar moves and even studying from the same school.

Agreed, expect for the part that Ryu has more strength than Ken and Ken's a bit more faster than Ryu.

Thus the qualifier most part. Ken basically goes for stylish unpredictability while Ryu focuses more on technique (atleast what wikipedia states). And in other games, beyond SFII, they are given differences to help deviate them even further. But still for the most part, they are almost clones of each other.

oh yeah! i remember that part..i did see the movie SF II at 7 or 9 years ago..(i was at 8 years age, i watched that movie in the old CN)

EDIT: One question..it's about Yumi's style fighting..what's her style of fight?

[Harajuku Guy offline]

I dont really know if they use a lot of Street Fighter moves but they use a lot of team work in their battles.

[G-Force offline]

Well Ryu and Ken practice Shotokan karate and clearly Odd was going for boxing. Besides, Odd laked THE Ken move when he was fighting. To put it bluntly he never yelled out SHORYUKEN! C'on, what's Ken without a Shoryuken.

Now if you want to compare CL to Street Fighter, Tip-Top Shape is a bettter example. Odd's clearly throwing Hadokens like they were going out of style.

[Taelia offline]

If only he could imitate the stance as a fighting pose like how Pai did in Virtua Fighter 2 and 3.

[Odd675 offline]

If only he could imitate the stance as a fighting pose like how Pai did in Virtua Fighter 2 and 3.

Or perhaps if he can imitate the style of Bryan Fury from Tekken 3, 4 and the final 5

P.D: if you don't know about Bryan Fury here's the photo:

http://img.stern.de/_content/54/30/543020/kaempfer19_400.jpg
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk5ps2/character/img/bryan.jpg

EDIT: sorry for the images of him, if that images can make scared at you

[animenologist offline]

Well Ryu and Ken practice Shotokan karate and clearly Odd was going for boxing. Besides, Odd laked THE Ken move when he was fighting. To put it bluntly he never yelled out SHORYUKEN! C'on, what's Ken without a Shoryuken.

Now if you want to compare CL to Street Fighter, Tip-Top Shape is a bettter example. Odd's clearly throwing Hadokens like they were going out of style.

Actually, throughout Tip-Top Shape, they were tossing out blasts one handed, both Odd and Yolande. It actually looks how you would throw a dodgeball more than a Hadoken. The only time Odd actually did something that resembled a Hadoken in terms of body movements was Odd's short-circuit blast before XANA finally got control of the tower Jeremie used to pixelise Odd.

[Ranma Saotome offline]

Quick question, is Ulrich's style a real style or something that the people who write the show came up with?

[Metrion offline]

Quick question, is Ulrich's style a real style or something that the people who write the show came up with?

Pencak Silat is a real fighting style. Look it up on Wikipedia or something.

[Mewberries151]

Quick question, is Ulrich's style a real style or something that the people who write the show came up with?

Pencak Silat is a real fighting style. Look it up on Wikipedia or something.

It is indeed a real fighting style.

The Wiki Guide to Penchak Silat

[Darkborn offline]

Also, I think Baraka in Mortal Kombat: Deception uses that technique.

[Mewberries151]

*snickers insanely* In addition to Penchak Silat...I think Ulrich's also a Tenken.

Super Sprint...Shukuchi...all he's missing is the ominous foot tap before he sprints off...he's even got the "no emotion" thing...although he doesn't smile like Soujiro would. But still...the outfit is similar...the style of fighting...the great sprinting speed. I wonder if he's ever tried the Shuntensatsu... ^^ What am I rambling about, you ask? *sweatdrop* I'm a Rurouni Kenshin fan...I can't help it. ^^;

[Odd675 offline]

*snickers insanely* In addition to Penchak Silat...I think Ulrich's also a Tenken.

Super Sprint...Shukuchi...all he's missing is the ominous foot tap before he sprints off...he's even got the "no emotion" thing...although he doesn't smile like Soujiro would. But still...the outfit is similar...the style of fighting...the great sprinting speed. I wonder if he's ever tried the Shuntensatsu... ^^ What am I rambling about, you ask? *sweatdrop* I'm a Rurouni Kenshin fan...I can't help it. ^^;

Mew..are you really a..Ruroni Kenshin fan?! i have some 2 poster of Ruroni kenshin! Let's see..for example in the episode "Mister Puck" i've seen Jeremie (as XANA) have a style of punching like Cody from Final Fight (very tremendous power!) Is that right?

[Taelia offline]

Ulrich also seems to know Karate and Jun Fan.

[MY85 offline]

Also, I think Baraka in Mortal Kombat: Deception uses that technique.

He's not the only one, I think. When you play the Konquest version, your characther uses that style, I think.

[Mewberries151]

*snickers insanely* In addition to Penchak Silat...I think Ulrich's also a Tenken.

Super Sprint...Shukuchi...all he's missing is the ominous foot tap before he sprints off...he's even got the "no emotion" thing...although he doesn't smile like Soujiro would. But still...the outfit is similar...the style of fighting...the great sprinting speed. I wonder if he's ever tried the Shuntensatsu... ^^ What am I rambling about, you ask? *sweatdrop* I'm a Rurouni Kenshin fan...I can't help it. ^^;

Mew..are you really a..Ruroni Kenshin fan?! i have some 2 poster of Ruroni kenshin! Let's see..for example in the episode "Mister Puck" i've seen Jeremie (as XANA) have a style of punching like Cody from Final Fight (very tremendous power!) Is that right?

Indeed I am a fellow RuroKen fan! *highfives* I also have two posters of Kenshin...along with this really cool set of action figures...and all of season 1 on DVD and some of season 2...particularly the Soujiro episodes...and...I'm rambling again, aren't I? *sweatdrop* ^^;

I haven't ever seen Final Fight though, so I'll have to take your word on that. ^^

[Odd675 offline]

*snickers insanely* In addition to Penchak Silat...I think Ulrich's also a Tenken.

Super Sprint...Shukuchi...all he's missing is the ominous foot tap before he sprints off...he's even got the "no emotion" thing...although he doesn't smile like Soujiro would. But still...the outfit is similar...the style of fighting...the great sprinting speed. I wonder if he's ever tried the Shuntensatsu... ^^ What am I rambling about, you ask? *sweatdrop* I'm a Rurouni Kenshin fan...I can't help it. ^^;

Mew..are you really a..Ruroni Kenshin fan?! i have some 2 poster of Ruroni kenshin! Let's see..for example in the episode "Mister Puck" i've seen Jeremie (as XANA) have a style of punching like Cody from Final Fight (very tremendous power!) Is that right?

Indeed I am a fellow RuroKen fan! *highfives* I also have two posters of Kenshin...along with this really cool set of action figures...and all of season 1 on DVD and some of season 2...particularly the Soujiro episodes...and...I'm rambling again, aren't I? *sweatdrop* ^^;

I haven't ever seen Final Fight though, so I'll have to take your word on that. ^^

Final Fight it was a famous game from Capcom, it's the old school of Fighting on Metro City Streets..Cody Travers it was the hero of the old Final Fight from SNES..and Street Fighter Alph 3 Upper too (but in this game, he was prisioner escaped from a prison federal for kill one person who killed his husband! i don't remember well).

But Capcom created one final chapter, Final Fight: Streetwise, to take it back again in Metro City Streets and Cody Travers is back, but retired for fighting in streets, so he bought his brother, Kyle Travers to train like his brother Cody, to revive the old style in Final Fight!

Here's Cody Travers in person on game! but his face it remembers me on Jeremie..^^;!

http://ww2.capcom.com/finalfight/media/downloads/1024/3.jpg

That's it, :3!

[YDV offline]

As for Odd, that doesn't look like how Ken fights, not in the least. Ken and Ryu are for the most part clones of each other, sharing similar moves and even studying from the same school.

Agreed, expect for the part that Ryu has more strength than Ken and Ken's a bit more faster than Ryu.

Thus the qualifier most part. Ken basically goes for stylish unpredictability while Ryu focuses more on technique (atleast what wikipedia states). And in other games, beyond SFII, they are given differences to help deviate them even further. But still for the most part, they are almost clones of each other.

oh yeah! i remember that part..i did see the movie SF II at 7 or 9 years ago..(i was at 8 years age, i watched that movie in the old CN)

EDIT: One question..it's about Yumi's style fighting..what's her style of fight?

....The only reason I'm saying anything is because I don't think anyone's answered this, but I'm pretty sure Yumi uses Pencat Silat as well (considering she practiced with Ulrich in Garage Kids), but she may also use some sort of Japanese style... OH! Wait! I rememebr this.. uh... there was this style of fighting that involved using fans.... *Googles*

Yeah! There we go! Tessenjutsu! ^^

Er, yeah... dunno if the animators went so far as to actually look up some moves for that, but it sounds plausible to me. >>;

[Mewberries151]

....The only reason I'm saying anything is because I don't think anyone's answered this, but I'm pretty sure Yumi uses Pencat Silat as well (considering she practiced with Ulrich in Garage Kids), but she may also use some sort of Japanese style... OH! Wait! I rememebr this.. uh... there was this style of fighting that involved using fans.... *Googles*

Yeah! There we go! Tessenjutsu! ^^

Er, yeah... dunno if the animators went so far as to actually look up some moves for that, but it sounds plausible to me. >>;

I wouldn't put it past the animators to have at least thought of Tessenjutsu when they were designing her character. If they were able to research a martial art like Penchak Silat for Ulrich, I'm sure they might have at least heard of Tessenjutsu somewhere.

I'm not so sure if she studies Penchak Silat though...her throws in GK seemed more Judo to me than anything, and Judo is a Japanese martial art, so it makes sense. I'm not quite sure what kind of fighting style she was using in GotD (although that was probably basic Kendo style) or in "Just In Time". Ulrich appeared to be using Penchak Silat in that one, but Yumi's style...I'm not sure. ^^;