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Episode 51 to have evil clones!

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Postby MY85 » Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:00 pm

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Mewberries151 wrote:*laughs* They're not just borrowing fanfic ideas...they're borrowing our LF post ideas! Ulrich's saber is blue, while XANAUlrich's is red. Hmmm...this looks familiar... XD If "Battle of the Fates" plays during this scene, I'm going to explode (not with anger though). Now I really want to see this episode! I can't wait to see this in action!!


Red... my saber!! God, they're thieves!! Okay, I'm gonna get into that fight and help Ulrich!!

Red is for dark side... Star Wars reference!! I love that!!


XD And he's wearing dark clothing too. ^^; Bloody pirates, they are. (j/k) ;) Yay! Help Ulrich! ^.^

I find it interesting though that the clone doesn't have a symbol on his back like Ulrich does on his outfit. Surely XANA could have put in an "oh so stylish" XANA symbol for his evil clone. :D


Pirates... I wonder what would any CL producer say about my stolen saber... it took you half a year to build it for me and they just took it quickly... XD *travels to France and tries to get himself into Lyoko*

And the clone didn't had a XANA symbol on any part of the body, unless the bandana wasn't shown well on one scene, just like a nitpick (meaning that XANA-Ulrich had a XANA logo on its bandana). Man, if we had nitpick trailers... XD
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Postby Cassius335 » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:23 am

bduddy wrote:No, this is going to be in Episode 51. I believe one of the VA's said that there were no virtualizations in the prequel.


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Postby YDV » Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:48 am

Uhh.. it makes sense. It's a PRE-quel, so naturally they hadn't been going to Lyoko yet.
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Postby Mandaz » Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:08 pm

Lol, ulrich vs ulrich...DUDE!
when this ep comes out if anyone has it plz send it to meee, thats so wicked.
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Postby xxJeanGreyxx » Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:16 pm

Ulrich&UlrichXANA?!!? AWESOMENESSS! I want to see it. =( I want to see it all! =( Oh well, its going to come out in a month... =P Must wait.
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Postby *Star* Gazer » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:16 pm

oh wow, ya know I'd want to see JeremyVSJeremy the would be cool and funny. And UlrichvsXana-Ulrich that is sooo cool!!!!! I will probably fall of my seat if Ulrich gets hurt REAL BAD.
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Postby DarkestSoul X21 » Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:34 pm

that was werid, how did you find it?
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Postby lyokodude » Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:49 am

That was wierdly cool
It reminded me of Star Wars
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Postby Cassius335 » Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:53 am

Your De-Virtualization wrote:Uhh.. it makes sense. It's a PRE-quel, so naturally they hadn't been going to Lyoko yet.


If they're not going to Lyoko at some point, what ARE they doing?
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Postby Cassius335 » Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:56 am

Star warrior wrote:oh wow, ya know I'd want to see JeremyVSJeremy the would be cool and funny.


Hm....

Star warrior wrote: And UlrichvsXana-Ulrich that is sooo cool!!!!! I will probably fall of my seat if Ulrich gets hurt REAL BAD.


Like, decapitated?

XANAUlrich (quoting Highlander): "There can be only one..."
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Postby SamBlob » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:33 pm

Cassius335 wrote:
Star warrior wrote:oh wow, ya know I'd want to see JeremyVSJeremy the would be cool and funny.


Hm....

Star warrior wrote: And UlrichvsXana-Ulrich that is sooo cool!!!!! I will probably fall of my seat if Ulrich gets hurt REAL BAD.


Like, decapitated?

XANAUlrich (quoting Highlander): "There can be only one..."


*XANAUlrich gets decaptiated by a fan; Ulrich "quickens".

(after the quickening)

Yumi: Ulrich, I'm sorry; I know I shouldn't interfere, but I couldn't let him...
Jeremy: No, you shouldn't have interfered. I'm sorry, but I'll have to tell them about this. It is my duty as a Watcher, you know.
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Postby Cassius335 » Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:03 am

SamBlob wrote:*XANAUlrich gets decaptiated by a fan; Ulrich "quickens".


Don't think you could get a quickening from killing a fake Immortal. Jeremy as a Watcher is almost too perfect. Maybe Odd?
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Postby Jazzy Josh » Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:45 am

I want to give adaquate warning:
Maybe synopsis

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When people are possessed by XANA their eyes become his logos and he is able to use his powers through them. He has talked several times, but through other people's voices. Recently he was able to activate two towers with the unwilling help of Jeremie. In the latest episode, he manages to activate five at one time. When XANA possessed the school nurse, Jeremie activated a tower that glowed green instead of XANA's trademark red.

Jeremie gave Odd the same powers XANA used when he possessed people and took on the possessed nurse. However, Jeremie's towers can only be activated for a short amount of time and XANA took over the tower Jeremie used to give Odd super powers. He pushed Odd's powers to his limits, slowly killing him, but the others managed to deactivate the tower in time.

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Postby MY85 » Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:49 am

You might wanna remove the "SPOILER WARNING" things and tell us where did you got that from...
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Postby YDV » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:05 am

I don't get how that was a spoiler... :umm:
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Postby Jazzy Josh » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:18 am

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Postby SamBlob » Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:45 am

I saw that episode. It's the one where they're taking their medical exam, the one with the line that goes sort of like this (not necessarily an exact quote) :

Nurse Dorothy or Yolande or whatever: "Odd, I don't understand how come you're so scrawny! Are you eating enough?"

Jeremy: "Yeah, enough for an average elephant..."

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Postby animenologist » Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:04 am

Actually, Odd was dying because Xana took control of the tower that Jeremie activated, and instead of controlling him, decided it was better just to drain him dry.

Anyways, evil clone, #42 in the big book of classic (cliche) story plots. After watching A Fine Mess, doing the whole body swap thing, I was wondering when they would get around to evil clone. And judging by the fact that the clone turned into Ulrich from Odd, I'm guessing one of two possibilities.

1. Xana's evil clone has already fought and dispatched Odd. If thats the case, I'm hoping that all 3 defenders are defeated, to make it fair. Odd's performance this season in terms of monster killing, has been kinda down compared to Season 1, if you compare statistics.

2. The clone is actually Jeremie's creation. For whatever reason, Jeremie thought it necessary to create a clone of Odd for usage. Seeing how he created a decoy of Aelita in Franz Hopper, I wouldn't say its beyond his abilities, but to create an accurate clone, he had to activate a tower since around the same time clone turned to Ulrich, the tower which was green meaning Jeremie activated, turned red. I'm glad about that. Jeremie activating a tower is probably the thing I wished most for them to continue in terms of plot device, and they did. Also to support this hypothesis, note that when comparing the color scheme of the clone, Odd's avatar were pretty accurate to his normal colors, while Ulrich's was almost completely different.

Either way, this certainly ups my anticipation for Revelation.
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Postby SamBlob » Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:23 am

animenologist wrote:Anyways, evil clone, #42 in the big book of classic (cliche) story plots. After watching A Fine Mess, doing the whole body swap thing, I was wondering when they would get around to evil clone.


Actually, they did evil clone in #7 - "Image Problem" and they did polymorphic ("shape-shifting") evil clone in "XANA's Kiss", so...
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Postby animenologist » Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:05 pm

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animenologist wrote:Anyways, evil clone, #42 in the big book of classic (cliche) story plots. After watching A Fine Mess, doing the whole body swap thing, I was wondering when they would get around to evil clone.


Actually, they did evil clone in #7 - "Image Problem" and they did polymorphic ("shape-shifting") evil clone in "XANA's Kiss", so...


I meant the concept of creating an evil duplicate that had the same abilities of the one being replicated, as to exploit its weaknesses. You know, your worst enemy is yourself. But yeah, Image Problem and Xana's Kiss did kinda slip my mind for a bit, and are evil clones though not in the way I thought. In Image Problem and Xana's Kiss, it was a super strong look-alike, not an exact replica. Didn't have the same abilities as the normal Lyoko gang, but you are right, the evil clone thing sorta has been done before.
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Postby Reesane » Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:21 pm

Two points:

1. I think the "Evil Clone" IS XANA.

2. what if XANA finds a way to activat a tower so that it dosen't recognis him, like jeremy did?
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Postby bduddy » Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:35 am

Reesane wrote:Two points:

1. I think the "Evil Clone" IS XANA.


What do you mean, exactly? Wouldn't it have to be?

Reesane also wrote:2. what if XANA finds a way to activat a tower so that it dosen't recognis him, like jeremy did?


Uhh... what? I don't think that Jeremie ever has been able to discover the possessed people before they made their move. Or are you talking about something else?
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Postby Overcaffeinated Sloth » Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:44 am

I think mabey like change the ebb color of the towers, so that instead of red it changes only a slightest shade of blue that the eye couldn't pick up.
That way Jeremie'd think there was something wrong with the program and he'd have to fix it. To fix it he'd have to disable it and send everyone to Lyoko and sector 5. then cut off communications to the real world and wage a huge overwhelming attttack.

So in a sense, nothing is wrong so everything is wrong.

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Postby bduddy » Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:47 am

Oh... you mean changing the color of the towers? I don't know if that's possible... although if XANA could make a tower (and more) disappear, he could probably change its color. Interesting... maybe we'll see it next season. Maybe it'll be the episode where Jeremie finally goes to Lyoko (and we can SEE him...) :cussout:
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