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Postby Vodka's Vengeance » Sat May 05, 2007 4:43 pm

Has anybody ever played the game based off of the Columbine shootings, Super Columbine Massacre RPG? I know what your thinking... 'Why did they make a game based off of a school shooting?' Good question, but it's actually a pretty good, albeit emotional, game. Go check it out if you can. :)

Please note: I DO NOT condone Columbine!!
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Postby Rail Runner » Sat May 05, 2007 4:58 pm

In all honesty...even the thought of a video game based on that is just wrong. They shouldnt have even thought of it.
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Postby Vodka's Vengeance » Sat May 05, 2007 5:07 pm

Highway Runner wrote:In all honesty...even the thought of a video game based on that is just wrong. They shouldnt have even thought of it.


*Shrugs* Your entitled to your own opinion, dude. But for God's sake PLEASE don't think I condone it!
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Postby Gauntlet » Sat May 05, 2007 5:15 pm

I haven't played the game, and I don't care to. I've read up on the game, namely on Wikipedia, and it sounds like a pretty bad idea. The creator says he doesn't glorify the school shootings, but he made the game anyways. What for? When you beat the game, apparently, you're "rewarded" with graphic pictures of the shooters, as if that makes the game okay.

Nah. It seems really tasteless, shallow, and insensitive. Just because someone can do something (freedom of speech), doesn't mean it's right. Generally, I'm the guy who's against soccer moms. Y'know, the kind that band together to get rid of Mortal Kombat, or violent games, when the problem is really how they raise them (and yes, this is not the case in everything. Some parents cannot afford to spend time with their children, due to work or the like, and thus, they usually purchase video games to compensate). This is one of those things, though, that I agree with; it should never have been placed on the market.

I'm pretty sure this guy knew the game would create controversy. I'm pretty sure he just wanted to push some buttons. And, I'm pretty sure that, in his own mind, rewarding the player with graphic photos of the killers would be some kind magical twist that make the game alright. I really don't know what he was thinking; I don't claim that he's an evil person, but I believe he didn't think it all through, and his thinking is a tad warped.

By the way, I'm not directing this towards you, Vodka.
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Postby . » Sat May 05, 2007 5:45 pm

Gauntlet wrote:I haven't played the game, and I don't care to. I've read up on the game, namely on Wikipedia, and it sounds like a pretty bad idea. The creator says he doesn't glorify the school shootings, but he made the game anyways. What for? When you beat the game, apparently, you're "rewarded" with graphic pictures of the shooters, as if that makes the game okay.

Nah. It seems really tasteless, shallow, and insensitive. Just because someone can do something (freedom of speech), doesn't mean it's right. Generally, I'm the guy who's against soccer moms. Y'know, the kind that band together to get rid of Mortal Kombat, or violent games, when the problem is really how they raise them (and yes, this is not the case in everything. Some parents cannot afford to spend time with their children, due to work or the like, and thus, they usually purchase video games to compensate). This is one of those things, though, that I agree with; it should never have been placed on the market.

I'm pretty sure this guy knew the game would create controversy. I'm pretty sure he just wanted to push some buttons. And, I'm pretty sure that, in his own mind, rewarding the player with graphic photos of the killers would be some kind magical twist that make the game alright. I really don't know what he was thinking; I don't claim that he's an evil person, but I believe he didn't think it all through, and his thinking is a tad warped.

By the way, I'm not directing this towards you, Vodka.


...Because he was heading the same path that Eric Harris went down and saw what was comming because of collumbine and realized, obviously, that commiting a school shooting isn't your holy grail of exact revenge it makes you pathetic. In general he designed the game to help people like that realize that it shouldn't be done.

V.V that being said what people don't realize is that Eric Harris isn't your typical "I hate my like I'm an emo school teen who wants revenge blah blah blah" no. It wouldn't matter if he was treated like the god damn pope and had the life of his dreams. He was legit off his rocker and there was no chance of saving him, not with pysch help, not with meds, not even with God's words (Though the family of Rachel Scott will tell you otherwise, read their book)

I've spent too much time studying this topic. Bleh. No I haven't played the game, but have been aware of it but I just didn't feel I had the stomach to download it.
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Postby Gauntlet » Sat May 05, 2007 7:57 pm

ThePepsiPiper wrote:...Because he was heading the same path that Eric Harris went down and saw what was comming because of collumbine and realized, obviously, that commiting a school shooting isn't your holy grail of exact revenge it makes you pathetic. In general he designed the game to help people like that realize that it shouldn't be done.


That...hardly makes sense. I don't really know what to say.

So, basically, kids who play this game, which consists of shooting students, shouldn't shoot up a school becausebecause they see the corpses of the shooters? That is such a load, I'm not even sure where to begin.

They hardly take this thing seriously, if you ask me. Just the very fact that you have to play through hell, find dead celebrities and cartoon characters (Mega Man and Bart Simpson to name a few), sounds like this guy is just trying to cover up his act. What exactly is he trying to prove?

You go through hell and reenact Doom, something the shooters were obsessed with. They're coded in to be excited they're apart of the Doom world. You see cartoon characters, video game characters, and celebrities in Hell on the "Isle of Lost Souls". You have to kill Satan, a direct copy and paste from South Park, then they are granted a dragon to find the Satanic Bible, and you win.

That is hardly trying to convince people that a school shooting is not a good idea. They're making a deliberate joke out of the school shooting; he only tried to salvage what was left of his dignity by showing their dead bodies, in hopes that people would stop hating him. If you honestly think a game like this, a joke, would make kids realize how horrible a school shooting is, you're out of your gourd. You really think that they'll care whether or not they're bullet-ridden corpses are featured in a freeware game?

It's a ridiculous argument, my friend.
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Postby Vodka's Vengeance » Sat May 05, 2007 8:30 pm

Gauntlet wrote:
ThePepsiPiper wrote:...Because he was heading the same path that Eric Harris went down and saw what was comming because of collumbine and realized, obviously, that commiting a school shooting isn't your holy grail of exact revenge it makes you pathetic. In general he designed the game to help people like that realize that it shouldn't be done.


That...hardly makes sense. I don't really know what to say.

So, basically, kids who play this game, which consists of shooting students, shouldn't shoot up a school becausebecause they see the corpses of the shooters? That is such a load, I'm not even sure where to begin.

They hardly take this thing seriously, if you ask me. Just the very fact that you have to play through hell, find dead celebrities and cartoon characters (Mega Man and Bart Simpson to name a few), sounds like this guy is just trying to cover up his act. What exactly is he trying to prove?

You go through hell and reenact Doom, something the shooters were obsessed with. They're coded in to be excited they're apart of the Doom world. You see cartoon characters, video game characters, and celebrities in Hell on the "Isle of Lost Souls". You have to kill Satan, a direct copy and paste from South Park, then they are granted a dragon to find the Satanic Bible, and you win.


I agree, Gauntlet. Since I'm a Christian to the core, those levels really disturbed me... And seeing the bloodsoaked corpses of Harris and Klebold, far from stopping kids shooting up schools, actually makes it worse, for some of the sicker ones... For reasons you can probably guess...



That is hardly trying to convince people that a school shooting is not a good idea. They're making a deliberate joke out of the school shooting; he only tried to salvage what was left of his dignity by showing their dead bodies, in hopes that people would stop hating him. If you honestly think a game like this, a joke, would make kids realize how horrible a school shooting is, you're out of your gourd. You really think that they'll care whether or not they're bullet-ridden corpses are featured in a freeware game?

It's a ridiculous argument, my friend.
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Postby Vodka's Vengeance » Sat May 05, 2007 8:32 pm

Oh shit, I accidently put my other reply in the middle of yours! Oops... Read it anyway, though.
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Postby Gauntlet » Sat May 05, 2007 9:11 pm

Vodka Boy wrote:Oh shit, I accidently put my other reply in the middle of yours! Oops... Read it anyway, though.


S'ok, happens. I would hope everyone, even those that are not Christian, would be disturbed by those pictures.

Anyways, just to keep on topic, I'll restate what I said: No, I have not played the game.
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Postby Rail Runner » Sat May 05, 2007 9:15 pm

Dont worry VB...I dont think anything of the sort. I dont jump to conclusions that quickly.
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Postby Vodka's Vengeance » Sat May 05, 2007 9:20 pm

Gauntlet wrote:
Vodka Boy wrote:Oh shit, I accidently put my other reply in the middle of yours! Oops... Read it anyway, though.


S'ok, happens. I would hope everyone, even those that are not Christian, would be disturbed by those pictures.

Anyways, just to keep on topic, I'll restate what I said: No, I have not played the game.


Okay, well, good.
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Postby Vodka's Vengeance » Sat May 05, 2007 9:22 pm

Highway Runner wrote:Dont worry VB...I dont think anything of the sort. I dont jump to conclusions that quickly.


Really? That's nice. :D Not a lot of people DON'T jump to conclusions, unfortunately. :whatever:
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Postby Rail Runner » Sat May 05, 2007 9:57 pm

Thank you...but just a couple of pointers...first off..double posting isnt good...there is an edit button in your reply box after you post..you can use that to edit your previous posts.

Also, please refrain from swearing outside of BKO...once you get there, things are different..but here, its not allowed.
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Postby Vodka's Vengeance » Sat May 05, 2007 10:50 pm

Highway Runner wrote:Thank you...but just a couple of pointers...first off..double posting isnt good...there is an edit button in your reply box after you post..you can use that to edit your previous posts.

Also, please refrain from swearing outside of BKO...once you get there, things are different..but here, its not allowed.


Sorry for posting again... But thanks... And I'll keep everything you said in mind... As well as the swearing. Don't worry, this is the last time I'll post more than twice again! :D
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Postby . » Sat May 05, 2007 11:41 pm

Gauntlet wrote:
ThePepsiPiper wrote:...Because he was heading the same path that Eric Harris went down and saw what was comming because of collumbine and realized, obviously, that commiting a school shooting isn't your holy grail of exact revenge it makes you pathetic. In general he designed the game to help people like that realize that it shouldn't be done.


That...hardly makes sense. I don't really know what to say.

So, basically, kids who play this game, which consists of shooting students, shouldn't shoot up a school becausebecause they see the corpses of the shooters? That is such a load, I'm not even sure where to begin.

They hardly take this thing seriously, if you ask me. Just the very fact that you have to play through hell, find dead celebrities and cartoon characters (Mega Man and Bart Simpson to name a few), sounds like this guy is just trying to cover up his act. What exactly is he trying to prove?

You go through hell and reenact Doom, something the shooters were obsessed with. They're coded in to be excited they're apart of the Doom world. You see cartoon characters, video game characters, and celebrities in Hell on the "Isle of Lost Souls". You have to kill Satan, a direct copy and paste from South Park, then they are granted a dragon to find the Satanic Bible, and you win.

That is hardly trying to convince people that a school shooting is not a good idea. They're making a deliberate joke out of the school shooting; he only tried to salvage what was left of his dignity by showing their dead bodies, in hopes that people would stop hating him. If you honestly think a game like this, a joke, would make kids realize how horrible a school shooting is, you're out of your gourd. You really think that they'll care whether or not they're bullet-ridden corpses are featured in a freeware game?

It's a ridiculous argument, my friend.


You just summed up the whole game, that whole plot right there, don't you find it a bit absurd? THERE YA GO! Thats the whole point, the shooting up the place is as FN stupid as the game your playing. Der.
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Postby MY85 » Sat May 05, 2007 11:52 pm

ThePepsiPiper wrote:No I haven't played the game, but have been aware of it but I just didn't feel I had the stomach to download it.

Wussy!

Anyways, I want the link to it and depending on how much the file weights, I'll download and play.

This game's no different that the other parodies about other events, why complain about it? Anyways, I don't care if this event gets made fun of. Anything can get parodied on these days.
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Postby jayde_child » Sun May 06, 2007 12:08 am

I guess that it is messed up. I mean its based on people who died. That isnt cool.
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Postby Gauntlet » Sun May 06, 2007 2:09 am

ThePepsiPiper wrote:You just summed up the whole game, that whole plot right there, don't you find it a bit absurd? THERE YA GO! Thats the whole point, the shooting up the place is as FN stupid as the game your playing. Der.


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Postby . » Sun May 06, 2007 7:53 am

MakeYourself85 wrote:
ThePepsiPiper wrote:No I haven't played the game, but have been aware of it but I just didn't feel I had the stomach to download it.

Wussy!

Anyways, I want the link to it and depending on how much the file weights, I'll download and play.

This game's no different that the other parodies about other events, why complain about it? Anyways, I don't care if this event gets made fun of. Anything can get parodied on these days.


You can only get it off Limewire apparently, that was the second reason I was iffy to play it.
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Postby Kita K. » Sun May 06, 2007 2:17 pm

It may sound weird, but the creator of the game has very valid reasons for creating the game. Columbine is not parodied in any way over the course of the game.

This game takes a very serious overlook at the events of the Columbine massacre, and never parodies it at all. If you need proof that this is NOT the satirical parody you believe it to be, actually play, AND COMPLETE the game!

Also, there are several interviews with the creator of the game, Danny Ledonne, where he shares his completely valid reasons for creating the game.

Read/watch these BEFORE you bash the game!!


http://live.canoe.ca/TheShow/Archives/2 ... 39452.html (TV interview with Ledonne)

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/feature/co ... 171966.php (Interview with a survivor of Columbine who has nothing but positives to say)



>>>http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/danny-ledonne/feature-columbine-rpg-creator-talks-about-dawson-shooting-201829.php (Ledonne states his valid reasons for the game's existence)<<<

Please, please, please don't regard this game morally wrong just from the title!

I can honestly say right now, if you have not completed the game or have not viewed all of the above links, you may now STFU.
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Postby Vodka's Vengeance » Sun May 06, 2007 4:09 pm

StepManiaxX UNLIMITED wrote:It may sound weird, but the creator of the game has very valid reasons for creating the game. Columbine is not parodied in any way over the course of the game.

This game takes a very serious overlook at the events of the Columbine massacre, and never parodies it at all. If you need proof that this is NOT the satirical parody you believe it to be, actually play, AND COMPLETE the game!

Also, there are several interviews with the creator of the game, Danny Ledonne, where he shares his completely valid reasons for creating the game.

Read/watch these BEFORE you bash the game!!


http://live.canoe.ca/TheShow/Archives/2 ... 39452.html (TV interview with Ledonne)

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/feature/co ... 171966.php (Interview with a survivor of Columbine who has nothing but positives to say)





>>>http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/danny-ledonne/feature-columbine-rpg-creator-talks-about-dawson-shooting-201829.php (Ledonne states his valid reasons for the game's existence)<<<

Please, please, please don't regard this game morally wrong just from the title!



I know I'm posting again, but it's for a reason: I would like to give my thanks to StepManiaxXUNLIMITED for giving me these great links. They really helped clear my confusion about why SCMRPG was made. And I was too lazy to find his name link and send him a PM. Sorry...
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Postby Vodka's Vengeance » Sun May 06, 2007 4:11 pm

Sorry about this double post. The problem has been corrected.

(I know that this is off topic.)
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Postby Kita K. » Sun May 06, 2007 4:31 pm

Vodka Boy wrote:It happened... Again. Posting right in the middle of someone's quote. Sigh...


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Postby Vodka's Vengeance » Sun May 06, 2007 5:18 pm

StepManiaxX UNLIMITED wrote:
Vodka Boy wrote:It happened... Again. Posting right in the middle of someone's quote. Sigh...


Don't worry, you can edit your posts.


They've been edited. :) And yes, people; I DO realize I made a double post. Sorry about that. It hit me the second after I had hit Submit. :cussout: I hate it when that happens...

Oh yeah, and since I'm still a newbie to the Lyoko Freak forums, when anybody please enlighten me to WHY double posting is bad?

...Once again, I realize that this is off topic.
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Postby Rail Runner » Sun May 06, 2007 6:19 pm

I doubt I will play the game.

VB..I will pm you with an explanation.
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