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Postby Gauntlet » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:46 am

MakeYourself85 wrote:Click.

Johnny Angel thinks Kevin Sullivan murdered Benoit. For those who don't know about Sullivan, he was Nancy's ex while he, her and Benoit wrestled on WCW. From what I remember, a storyline revolving the three would eventually lead to Benoit marrying Nancy in real life rather than just being a storyline.


I still think Benoit got rid of his family, despite what Angel says.


Yeah. I wish he would list the source that states Sullivan is a Satanist (even though it would hardly affect a thing); if I recall correctly, wasn't that part of his wrestling storyline?

Blaming it on Sullivan just for being a Satanist sounds shallow to me. Even if his religion may be twisted (to be fair, I have not studied Satanism very much, and I can't really draw any conclusions about the religion, but I assume it's a bit..funky), would it have made a difference if he was Christian or Catholic?

Whichever it is, hopefully things are straight set soon. I don't think they'll close this case anytime soon, Chris being a celebrity and all.
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Postby Tekirai » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:38 am

I can't believe this... I've read the entire thread here. This is... it's too sad.

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Sorry, I... can't think of much to say here. I don't care whether everyone starts to hate Benoit because 'he's a murderer' or not- this whole thing seems too sad to really care about stuff like that. But, that's the media for you. I've never had people to look up to, so Pepsi, Rodri, everyone who admired him, I'm really sorry.
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Postby ambitiouslove » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:55 am

St. Gauntlet wrote:
MakeYourself85 wrote:Click.

Johnny Angel thinks Kevin Sullivan murdered Benoit. For those who don't know about Sullivan, he was Nancy's ex while he, her and Benoit wrestled on WCW. From what I remember, a storyline revolving the three would eventually lead to Benoit marrying Nancy in real life rather than just being a storyline.

I still think Benoit got rid of his family, despite what Angel says.


Yeah. I wish he would list the source that states Sullivan is a Satanist (even though it would hardly affect a thing); if I recall correctly, wasn't that part of his wrestling storyline?

Blaming it on Sullivan just for being a Satanist sounds shallow to me. Even if his religion may be twisted (to be fair, I have not studied Satanism very much, and I can't really draw any conclusions about the religion, but I assume it's a bit..funky), would it have made a difference if he was Christian or Catholic?

Whichever it is, hopefully things are straight set soon. I don't think they'll close this case anytime soon, Chris being a celebrity and all.


Hmm... well, Satanism means different things to different people, just like Christianity. There are many different translations to it. Also there are different types of Satanism, which includes LaVey's version, where 'Satan' is just a human instinct within ourselves. Sorry, just a bit of a rambling thought there :D

Pretty interesting stuff, actually :X But I agree that they shouldn't just brand this guy Sullivan of anything. I think it's sad when someone's character is mistaken of their real life persona :*D

But er... I guess we'll have to wait and see what develops :(
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Postby MY85 » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:59 pm

More stuff on the Benoit issue...

Wrestling Observer wrote:As previously reported, Chris Benoit was becoming more paranoid about being followed, getting a pay cut, and losing his job, although the general belief is that Benoit had a job for life in World Wrestling Entertainment, even after he finished wrestling.

Due to Chris Benoit’s paranoia, it resulted in him increasing and mixing steroids, pain killers, anti-depressants, and high blood pressure medication. Dr. Phil Astin had prescribed him Zoloft on Friday, although it takes several weeks to start making any effect.

Chris Benoit saw potential in Tough Enough winner Daniel Puder at one point and offered to make him his personal protégé. However Benoit found out that due to his $250,000 per contract, the WWE is going to release him.

The out of context “I love you” text message which Chris Benoit sent was most likely sent to either Chavo Guerrero or Dean Malenko.


Reports are suggesting that people noticed Chris Benoit become a different person after Eddie Guerrero passed away. His wife Nancy was telling her friends that Chris Benoit’s drug usage escalated badly after Eddie Guerrero died.

After the death of neighbour Mike Durham (Johnny Grudge) and Victor “Black Cat” Mar, Chris Benoit became worse. Benoit was considered to be Victor Mar’s best friend during his time in Japan and Benoit refused to attend Durham’s funeral, saying he never wanted to return to church and hated religion.

A WWE source said Nancy was a described as a basket case on Thursday, which was a day before reports suggest Benoit killed her. Nancy was upset over the recent passing of her friend, Sherri Martel.

Shane Helms also said that Chris Benoit called him on Thursday to check up on how he is keeping as Helms is recovering from a neck surgery.


Holly McFague lived next door to the Benoit family and actually was the person who found the dead bodies after police asking her to enter the house to check their welfare after receiving a call from WWE. Police were afraid to enter the house first house because of Benoit's attack dogs and she was familiar with the family dogs and was able to enter without incident.

McFague’s representative said, "She's very shaken up and she can't go home because her house is surrounded by media."

Holly McFague saw Chris Benoit on Saturday, while he was likely between murders. Benoit told her that Nancy and Daniel were sick with food poisoning. “He told her this big, long story about how sick they were,” her representative said. “At the time she was thinking that it was way too much information.”


The Wrestling Observer Newsletter are reporting that Chris Benoit took out a new life insurance policy, which listed his ex-wife and oldest child David, 14, and Megan, 10, as the beneficiaries. Nancy apparently confronted Chris about it and he refused to change it. Nancy also found out that Chris Benoit set up a new bank account in the name of his ex-wife in Edmonton.


Hulk Hogan talks to US About the Killer Wrestler
Tuesday July 3, 2007

Wrestling superstar Hulk Hogan was shocked when the WWE’s Chris Benoit, 40, murdered his wife, Nancy, and son, Daniel, 7, then committed suicide the weekend of June 23.

“He was peaceful and kept to himself,” he tells Us.

Hogan, who last saw Benoit in March, says he wonders what pushed the wrestler over the edge. "I think it had to be something personal, a domestic problem between him and his wife."

And Hogan tells US the wrestler’s wife (and WWE costar) had a dark side.

“She was into devil-worship stuff. It was part of her [wrestling] character, but [she was] somebody who gets so close to their character, someone who gets into their character too much. Sometimes these people believe their own publicity.”


Sometimes these people believe their own publicity. -> That's pretty funny, considering it comes from Hulk Hogan himself.
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Postby Kita K. » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:10 pm

MakeYourself85 wrote:
Hulk Hogan talks to US About the Killer Wrestler



The media doesn't pull any punches...

It sounds like Benoit was really screwy when all this happened. I mean, he was really close to all those wrestlers, especially Eddie and Grudge. It's getting harder and harder to believe all of this...
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Postby MY85 » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:35 am

Huge bump.

Wrestleview wrote:The Associated Press is reporting today that results of the toxicology tests conducted on the body of Chris Benoit is slated to be revealed tomorrow afternoon during a press conference at 2:30pm ET (1:30pm CT).

That means today, as in Tuesday.

PWMania.com wrote:- Several WWE superstars including Fit Finlay, Vickie Guerrero and Jim Ross attended the funeral for Nancy and Daniel Benoit on Saturday. Ross actually spoke a few words at the ceremony.

- Just to let you know, Vince McMahon did not attend the funeral. The service was not open to the media, however some fans were allowed in.
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Postby Boss Tamsy » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:56 pm

In short, I think we can primarily assume that Benoit's actions were caused by negative things that had happened to him and roid rage.
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Postby MY85 » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:38 pm

WrestlingObserver wrote:The results are in for the Benoit family toxicology reports.

Kriss Sperry - Georgia Chief Medical Examiner gave the details - here they are:

Nancy Benoit had 3 different drugs in her system at the time of death. Hydrocodone (also known as Mortab, Morset) were found at 120 micrograms per liter. Hydromorphone, directly from the brakedown of the hydrocodone, was also found. Finally, the anti-anxiety drug Xanex wss present at 23 micrograms per liter. All 3 drugs were found at the theraputic level - not toxic levels. Her blood alcohol level was 0.184.

Daniel Benoit's blood tested positive for Xanex at 100 micrograms per liter, which is an elevated. What is interesting about this fact is that the drug Xanex was not prescribed to Daniel and is typically not prescribed to children. Based upon this finding, it is their opinion that Daniel was sedated by Xanex at the time of his murder.

Chris Benoit tested positive for Xanex at 50 micrograms per liter. He also tested positive for Hydrocodone at 45 micrograms per liter. Both of these drugs were within the theraputic range and not toxic.

As far as steroids ..... Chris Benoit's urine tested positive for the steroid testosterone at 207 micrograms per liter. The elevated level of testosterone in his urine were the ONLY "steroids" present in Chris Benoit. The medical examiner concluded that there is no way of telling whether Benoit's elevated testosterone was a result of recent steroid use. He called it a "mystery" - but said that Benoit may have been treated for a testosterone deficiency.

The drug GHB was not found in any 3 of the individuals.

No way to tell whether the drugs in Benoit's system had any affect on his behavior that weekend. The drugs found in all 3 bodies were at therapeutic - NOT toxic levels. The medical examiner also said that the decomposition of the bodies may have affected the level of alcohol in Nancy's body.

Seems like they can't exactly determine what did Benoit took and drove him crazy. It's probably safe to assume he was a bit whacked in the head.
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Postby Kita K. » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:24 pm

MakeYourself85 wrote:It's probably safe to assume he was a bit whacked in the head.

It is now.

Fox News wrote:The analysis by doctors affiliated with the Sports Legacy Institute suggests repeated concussions could have contributed to the killings at Benoit's suburban Atlanta home.

The wrestler's father, Michael Benoit, told reporters Wednesday that he knows his son had concussions because his son told him so. But he also said he knows of no medical records or records kept by the wrestling league to support the diagnosis.

Steroid use also has lingered as a theory behind the killings, since anabolic steroids were found in Chris Benoit's home and tests conducted by authorities showed Benoit had roughly 10 times the normal level of testosterone in his system when he died.

The institute, which researches the long-term effects of concussions, coordinated the testing using samples of Benoit's brain tissue provided by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

The Waltham, Mass.-based institute's president is former pro wrestler Christopher Nowinski, who has said he had to quit the ring after a kick to the head. Nowinski still has ties with World Wrestling Entertainment Inc., which runs the league he and Benoit were in.

A lawyer for Stamford, Conn.-based WWE did not immediately return a call Wednesday seeking comment. The company has maintained steroid use did not cause Benoit to snap.

Despite the results of the institute's tests, there was no way to know if Benoit's concussions contributed to the murder-suicide, said Dr. Robert Cantu, a member of the institute who also is chief of neurosurgery service at Emerson Hospital in Concord, Mass.

"Whether it is the sole factor I believe is speculation and I will not go there," Cantu said by phone.

The level of brain damage Benoit had can cause depression and irrational behavior, Cantu said.

Benoit's brain showed the same degenerative processes that doctors working for the institute found in the brains of three men who had played pro football and committed suicide, Cantu said. There were abnormal protein deposits caused by trauma to Benoit's brain, Cantu said.

There's no evidence that steroid use causes such protein deposits, Cantu said, though he noted the issue has not been exhaustively studied.

Investigators allowed the institute to test Benoit's brain tissue with the permission of his father, who lives near Edmonton in Ardrossan, Alberta.

Michael Benoit said Wednesday that he agreed to the testing because murder-suicide was out of character for his son. He also disclosed that after the killings, he discovered a diary written by his son that showed his son was having problems.

"After reading the diary, I would have thought it was written by someone who was extremely disturbed at the time," Michael Benoit said.

He did not elaborate, but he did say a friend told him that prior to the murder-suicide, Chris Benoit had been wearing a rosary, which he said was also out of character.

"I think it's the extreme that is in the wrestling industry today," he told reporters. "The human skull is not built to get hit by a chair or something."

The father said he has not discussed with his attorney whether to take any legal action against the WWE or anyone else in the case. His attorney, Cary Ichter, said that at a later time he "will give thoughtful consideration" to appropriate steps to take in the "legal arena."

Nowinski said concussions can happen in pro wrestling even though many of the moves are staged.

"I got four concussions in three years as a professional wrestler," said Nowinski, who works for the WWE on its initiative to encourage young people to vote. "A lot of concussions happen from mistakes."

Prosecutors have said Benoit, 40, strangled his wife with a cord, used a choke hold to strangle his 7-year-old son, placed Bibles next to the bodies and hanged himself on a piece of exercise equipment the weekend of June 22.

Authorities have said Benoit's personal doctor, Phil Astin, prescribed a 10-month supply of anabolic steroids to Benoit every three to four weeks between May 2006 and May 2007. Astin has pleaded not guilty to federal charges of improperly prescribing painkillers and other drugs to two patients other than Benoit.


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