Ulrich x Yumi

[Writing_Addict offline]

Me too...sort of. Plus I REALLY need to work on one of my 4 stories beside the one I am going to post as New...lots of work for me this month!

[adrimarie offline]

This pairing used to be my favorite CL pairing. Unfortunately, I found so many crud stories of the two at FF.net and I started liking it less. I still like it but for some reason seeing it abused that way made me like it less.

I admit that I read the fanfics first before I had a chance on watching most of the episodes. After watching most of the episodes I now find the (Ulrich & Yumi) fanfics as "crud"... I think most of the fics there are too "melodramatic", "angsty," etc. It's highly unlikely that those two are always angsty 24-hours a day both in the real world and in Lyoko, plus there are some fics that totally wrote both of them out of character.

I noticed something though, which I think is always the case. Both end up having problems in the real world, especially when it's with each other. But when a Lyoko mission comes up, they drop everything and focus on their objectives. And while they're on a mission, they realize the mistakes that they made and have a chance on correcting it after the RTTP (return to the past). Ulrich though sometimes would delay because he "would rather be alone for the moment," but if the rest of the team (Jeremie especially) did not continue to persuade him, then he'll end up being useless in the team. Anyway, my take. ^^

I'm a fanfic writer too but haven't wrote one in months. I might write one later on. ^^

[knifey offline]

This pairing used to be my favorite CL pairing. Unfortunately, I found so many crud stories of the two at FF.net and I started liking it less. I still like it but for some reason seeing it abused that way made me like it less.

I admit that I read the fanfics first before I had a chance on watching most of the episodes. After watching most of the episodes I now find the (Ulrich & Yumi) fanfics as "crud"... I think most of the fics there are too "melodramatic", "angsty," etc. It's highly unlikely that those two are always angsty 24-hours a day both in the real world and in Lyoko, plus there are some fics that totally wrote both of them out of character.

I noticed something though, which I think is always the case. Both end up having problems in the real world, especially when it's with each other. But when a Lyoko mission comes up, they drop everything and focus on their objectives. And while they're on a mission, they realize the mistakes that they made and have a chance on correcting it after the RTTP (return to the past). Ulrich though sometimes would delay because he "would rather be alone for the moment," but if the rest of the team (Jeremie especially) did not continue to persuade him, then he'll end up being useless in the team. Anyway, my take. ^^

I'm a fanfic writer too but haven't wrote one in months. I might write one later on. ^^

@ 1st paragraph: The OOC fictions at FF.net are what upsets me the most, and another thing that upsets me is that usually if they aren't OOC the author usually writes them so vague they're not IC either. I've seen a ton of Emo!Ulrich fictions there as well. I've also seen a lot of "Yumi gets abused" fiction which is really stupid because Yumi isn't someone to get abused so easily, as said by G-Force.

What you wrote in the second paragraph reminds me to study more in literature class. I hate it when I am always totally clueless about things about characters in a fandom. Nice speculation.

@ 3rd paragraph: You are? I hope you write something soon.

[Writing_Addict offline]

I tried to read a "Yumi abused" fic and let me tell you it was BAD. Why did I add it to my faves anyhow...?

That idea is over-used so much anyhow.

[Blueyedblonde offline]

Yea, that's why I'm really shallow when it comes to the descriptions. If it says, "Yumi's getting beat by her boyfriend, will Ulrich be there to save her?" I tend to NOT click on it.

I like the stories that make their relashinship go slow; like 5 chaps into the story they'll finally start going out or something. And the one's that make Ulrich not so possessed by Yumi, and Yumi's not all like, "Oh, I hope he notices me-- Teehee!" err... It's an insult to the couple.

But yea, I'm not the best writter either, so... I tend to have them OOC every now and then, but I try to stay in char...

[adrimarie offline]

Yumi is a very strong girl, which is why I think she's perfectly fit to be in the team, plus she's got natural leadership qualities too. I'm just sick and tired of reading fanfics who always portray Yumi as the "abused and helpless" one. I really don't see how "romantic" a fic can be with situations like that. Like you guys said, it's way too overused. And Ulrich being "emo"? (sorry, I don't know what "emo" means... emotional? x.x) I mean just because he's an introvert and that he's got his own personal problems, doesn't mean that he dwells with those problems fully, you know? I've even read the one where Ulrich (at age 16 or hold old he was) is being a player on campus--- totally out of character. x.x

I'll write a U&Y fic one day (they're my favorite couple even if Jeremie is my favorite character ^^; )--- one that's totally "real" and hopefully "in character" (I know it's easier said than done but I'll try ^^)--- and I can't ignore Lyoko and XANA either. ^^;

I also noticed that in FF.net that there aren't too many "friendship" fics there. I think that the Lyoko team has one of the strongest friendship bond (if not the strongest) among all of the animated shows/anime I've seen in the past. It's another reason why I fell in love w/ this series... they can still hold on together even if one or two made serious mistakes that could affect their friendship (I'm talking about all 5 of them, not just U&Y). I also like the U&Y friendship too. Most successful couples I've known (in real life) always start off with being friends. U&Y truly respect each other truly for who they are, not because they have secret crushes with one another.

[Blueyedblonde offline]

Yumi is a very strong girl, which is why I think she's perfectly fit to be in the team, plus she's got natural leadership qualities too. I'm just sick and tired of reading fanfics who always portray Yumi as the "abused and helpless" one. I really don't see how "romantic" a fic can be with situations like that. Like you guys said, it's way too overused. And Ulrich being "emo"? (sorry, I don't know what "emo" means... emotional? x.x) I mean just because he's an introvert and that he's got his own personal problems, doesn't mean that he dwells with those problems fully, you know? I've even read the one where Ulrich (at age 16 or hold old he was) is being a player on campus--- totally out of character. x.x

I'll write a U&Y fic one day (they're my favorite couple even if Jeremie is my favorite character ^^; )--- one that's totally "real" and hopefully "in character" (I know it's easier said than done but I'll try ^^)--- and I can't ignore Lyoko and XANA either. ^^;

I also noticed that in FF.net that there aren't too many "friendship" fics there. I think that the Lyoko team has one of the strongest friendship bond (if not the strongest) among all of the animated shows/anime I've seen in the past. It's another reason why I fell in love w/ this series... they can still hold on together even if one or two made serious mistakes that could affect their friendship (I'm talking about all 5 of them, not just U&Y). I also like the U&Y friendship too. Most successful couples I've known (in real life) always start off with being friends. U&Y truly respect each other truly for who they are, not because they have secret crushes with one another.

Very; very well said. ^__^

Yes, Emo means Emotional. It's just a little phrase for people who cut themselves and talk about... Well goth stuff, basically. ^^;

[Mewberries151]

Yumi is a very strong girl, which is why I think she's perfectly fit to be in the team, plus she's got natural leadership qualities too. I'm just sick and tired of reading fanfics who always portray Yumi as the "abused and helpless" one. I really don't see how "romantic" a fic can be with situations like that. Like you guys said, it's way too overused.

I agree with you on that. There was only one fic that I found somewhat believable that had Yumi being abused in it, because they actually gave a reason as to why she wasn't fighting back and why she wasn't telling anyone (the old "I'll go after your friends if you tell" routine)...and even so, I always thought she should have just flattened the guy anyway, but I guess it's in charater that Yumi would put her friend's safety before her own. Ehh...

I've seen a lot of fics hit the opposite end of the spectrum where Yumi's really aggressive and mean or something, which is really just plain out of character. She has a temper, but she's also very in control of herself (for the most part).

And Ulrich being "emo"? (sorry, I don't know what "emo" means... emotional? x.x) I mean just because he's an introvert and that he's got his own personal problems, doesn't mean that he dwells with those problems fully, you know? I've even read the one where Ulrich (at age 16 or hold old he was) is being a player on campus--- totally out of character. x.x

My sentiments exactly! He's very introverted, but he doesn't strike me as emo, or suicidal, or punk, or player, or any number of those stereotypes that I've seen him thrown into (particularly suicidal). I really don't like to see him portrayed as someone who mopes about everything 24/7...he mopes about 2 things only (and the second is debateable). Yumi (and indirectly William), and his parents (more specifically his father). And personally, I don't think moping about either of those things makes him anymore "emo" than any other person...since who of us here hasn't moped about either a "good friend" or "family"? We can't all be emo.

He's easy to make too mopey in fanfiction, admittedly, but that's what makes him a challenging and intriguing character to write (and/or draw) for in character at least in terms of fan creations. ^^

And he's definitely not a player...being kind to Sissi (or being courteous to any other girl) does not make him a player (anymore than Yumi's friendship with William made her a player). More it makes him a gentleman really. ^^;

I'll write a U&Y fic one day (they're my favorite couple even if Jeremie is my favorite character ^^; )--- one that's totally "real" and hopefully "in character" (I know it's easier said than done but I'll try ^^)--- and I can't ignore Lyoko and XANA either. ^^;

I also noticed that in FF.net that there aren't too many "friendship" fics there. I think that the Lyoko team has one of the strongest friendship bond (if not the strongest) among all of the animated shows/anime I've seen in the past. It's another reason why I fell in love w/ this series... they can still hold on together even if one or two made serious mistakes that could affect their friendship (I'm talking about all 5 of them, not just U&Y). I also like the U&Y friendship too. Most successful couples I've known (in real life) always start off with being friends. U&Y truly respect each other truly for who they are, not because they have secret crushes with one another.

Ah, and I totally agree there too! I sometimes enjoy the "friendship" fics far more than any of the "romantic" ones. ^^ They just have a more "real" feel to them (although, that isn't to say that there haven't been romantic fics that felt "realistic" too ^^ ). I've written two CL fanfics (only one of which I really uploaded) and both were more Y/U friendship fics, more than they were "romance" (although I did throw in some fluffy hints for the fun of it, like blushes ^^ ).

[adrimarie offline]

One more thing that bothers me with some of these U&Y fics in FF.net is why they portray Yumi as being "Goth." I mean just because she likes wearing black most of the time, doesn't mean that she's "Goth." (you don't see her wearing that dreary makeup that makes you look like you're one of the undead x.x) I'm saying this because I wear a lot of black outfits myself (well, black and dark/navy blue, but mostly black) and I don't consider myself "Goth" (I don't listen to heavy metal rock or whatever... x.x). It really drove me off the wall everytime I read fics that portray Yumi as a "Goth." x.x

Another thing I'd like to say about Ulrich being "emo"... normally introverted people VERY rarely or almost NEVER show their true feelings to anyone else when it comes to certain situations (my brother is a good example--- he's one of the more introverted guys I've known x.x). I see Ulrich more as being afraid of showing his real side to people, rather than being "emotional" about certain things. He's more of like the type who would cover his true feelings by acting different or opposite of what he truly feels. I agree that Ulrich is being a gentleman to the ladies, even with girls he more or less despises (Sissi). It's just being natural, you know?

Looking more in to reasoning as to why both Ulrich and Yumi are not able to convey their real feelings to each other. I just think that both of them are confused and are afraid. Remember in "XANA Awakens," both Ulrich and Yumi started off being loners (no friends) until Ulrich met Odd and Jeremie and Yumi met Ulrich in their martial arts class. I'm just assuming that neither of them have any experience on how it feels like to be in love or even know the difference between "true love" and "infatuation." I think it's more of like "I really like you a lot, you're my best friend, I need you, I'm afraid of losing you (to someone else) I don't want you to ignore me..." type of thinking rather than "Why is he/she talking to that girl/guy when I should be the one who should be dating him/her?", you know? I do think that both of them have no idea what the difference is between mutual friendship and being in love with each other, although they do know signals and implications that can lead to something romantic (example - Sissi flirting w/ Ulrich and William flirting w/ Yumi). At least, that's how I saw it when Yumi finally came straight to Ulrich (Season 3, "Straight to Heart") that she wanted to be "just friends". Yumi is afraid of losing Ulrich with the both of them going around in circles in jealousy (another theory that I had with that is that she also wants to keep the team together as they can when they go out to Lyoko and battle XANA, just like how Jeremie would expect that from them).

Okay, that was a long post LOL... I'll shut up now. ^^

[knifey offline]

Okay, that was a long post LOL... I'll shut up now. ^^

Don't say that. A lot of us like it when people post long and thorough posts. It's posts like those that greatly differentiates LF from other forums like the official CL forum.

I really don't have anything against what anyone said. I completely agree with what's been said here. What a spamish and overused line.

[G-Force offline]

One more thing that bothers me with some of these U&Y fics in FF.net is why they portray Yumi as being "Goth." I mean just because she likes wearing black most of the time, doesn't mean that she's "Goth." (you don't see her wearing that dreary makeup that makes you look like you're one of the undead x.x) I'm saying this because I wear a lot of black outfits myself (well, black and dark/navy blue, but mostly black) and I don't consider myself "Goth" (I don't listen to heavy metal rock or whatever... x.x). It really drove me off the wall everytime I read fics that portray Yumi as a "Goth." x.x

Another thing I'd like to say about Ulrich being "emo"... normally introverted people VERY rarely or almost NEVER show their true feelings to anyone else when it comes to certain situations (my brother is a good example--- he's one of the more introverted guys I've known x.x). I see Ulrich more as being afraid of showing his real side to people, rather than being "emotional" about certain things. He's more of like the type who would cover his true feelings by acting different or opposite of what he truly feels. I agree that Ulrich is being a gentleman to the ladies, even with girls he more or less despises (Sissi). It's just being natural, you know?

Looking more in to reasoning as to why both Ulrich and Yumi are not able to convey their real feelings to each other. I just think that both of them are confused and are afraid. Remember in "XANA Awakens," both Ulrich and Yumi started off being loners (no friends) until Ulrich met Odd and Jeremie and Yumi met Ulrich in their martial arts class. I'm just assuming that neither of them have any experience on how it feels like to be in love or even know the difference between "true love" and "infatuation." I think it's more of like "I really like you a lot, you're my best friend, I need you, I'm afraid of losing you (to someone else) I don't want you to ignore me..." type of thinking rather than "Why is he/she talking to that girl/guy when I should be the one who should be dating him/her?", you know? I do think that both of them have no idea what the difference is between mutual friendship and being in love with each other, although they do know signals and implications that can lead to something romantic (example - Sissi flirting w/ Ulrich and William flirting w/ Yumi). At least, that's how I saw it when Yumi finally came straight to Ulrich (Season 3, "Straight to Heart") that she wanted to be "just friends". Yumi is afraid of losing Ulrich with the both of them going around in circles in jealousy (another theory that I had with that is that she also wants to keep the team together as they can when they go out to Lyoko and battle XANA, just like how Jeremie would expect that from them).

Okay, that was a long post LOL... I'll shut up now. ^^

Very well said. Very well said.

The reason why I see Yumi and Ulrich having a rather close relationship is the common ground they share. Though they never explicitly say it, they are the only ones who understand each other for who they are and have many similar problems where they meet mid way. Though we are quick to remember Ulrich's somewhat strained relationship with his father we sometimes neglect Yumi's problems at home as well. However they choose to keep such problems away from the others as best as they can as not to burden them. They both seem like the type of people who give up their own happiness to a slight degree if it means if everyone else is happy. They can never "be themselves" as doing so further complicates matters and they would rather settle with the status quo while secretly desiring something better. It's a theme that I addressed in my story in which the relationship progresses as slowly as the shows for I think that's the way it should be portrayed.

[adrimarie offline]

With Season 4 in production, there's bound to be some U & Y moments as tradition from Seasons 1, 2, and 3. Personally, if Ulrich and Yumi would finally reveal each other's feelings for each other, they don't even need to have a kiss scene, though as the saying goes, actions speak louder than words. Maybe just an embrace, a hold in each other's hands, and the words "I love you" (or something LOL) would be more than enough for me, I think. Save the kiss for the ending or something LOL. ^^

[Taelia offline]

I really am hoping that their relationship will stop being platonic. And they should do some !

[Writing_Addict offline]

This morning when Iwoke up my brain made an image of that....it was creepy seeing them kiss when they really haven't. ^^;

[I Love Yumi offline]

This morning when Iwoke up my brain made an image of that....it was creepy seeing them kiss when they really haven't. ^^;

That happened to me a couple weeks ago. It was kinda cool though. Why I can't have something like that?

[Blueyedblonde offline]

This morning when Iwoke up my brain made an image of that....it was creepy seeing them kiss when they really haven't. ^^;

That happened to me a couple weeks ago. It was kinda cool though. Why I can't have something like that?

I've actually *never* had a CL dream. I remember like a year ago I used to fall asleep watching it so I could force myself to dream about it but it never happined. ^^;

Having and UlrichYumi dream would probably make my day. =]

[HiddenWatcher offline]

I support this pairing, mostly because it's canon. Don't really care much about it, though. Too much angst for me. I prefer JxA.

[DeadViolet offline]

They have their up's and down's, though I support it all the way~

[Lyokosui offline]

Though JxA is my favorite of the two couples, I like UxY more for the fact that there's was the fluctuating relationship, which brought more drama and suspense to the series. What I am saying is that everyone knows JxA are boyfriend-girlfriend since the start of the series, but UxY kept everyone guessing on whether or not they would be together.

Ulrich is a typical teenage boy. He isn't motivated to do much, he has a small group of friends, and is involved in the sport of soccer where he is the star player, which is not so typical yet true. He was raised in a negative household with a domineering father and a somewhat passive mother, apparently he is also an only child. His best friend, Odd, and him would get into trouble and have some of the lowest grades in the class. Despite his faults, he is a loyal friend and a good person. The main fault on his side of UxY is his laid back attitude and his pessimism prevent him from making the first move.

Yumi is a goth in appearance, but more or less normal in attitude because she wears all black but isn't depressed all the time except for when her parents are fighting. Raised in a normal Japanese household, she helps her mother with all the chores in the house. Seeing her parents act the way they do, she wonders if this would be her future with any man. She isn't very active in any hobby, but she is always there as a support for her friends especially Ulrich playing soccer. Like Ulrich, she is a loyal friend and a good person. The main fault on her side of UxY is she has a stronger will than Ulrich and the aggressor in their relationship, but due to her upbringing, she is steeped in the belief that the man must make the first move.

Overall, they probably will become boyfriend-girlfriend somewhere in high school and be sweethearts from there onward. Besides the "love is difficult for teenagers" part, they are still young and have all the time in the world before they get together. So essentially, there is no rush.

This is off-topic but I just thought of this, did anyone notice how Hiroki was spawned into existence at the start of season two because Yumi was an only child at the start of the series? When you watch "Holiday in the Fog", he is nowhere to be seen.

[Taelia offline]

I think they should get married one day. And I know just what they'll throw: rice and sakura blossoms.

[DeadViolet offline]

I think they should get married one day. And I know just what they'll throw: rice and sakura blossoms.

Ooh! Oooh! I can draw that~!
Pretty!

Can I start the cake fight?

[Taelia offline]

Sure! You can draw it! And yes, start the cake fight.

[DeadViolet offline]

Will it be a traditional western wedding, or a fancy japanese one?

[Taelia offline]

Both, actually. It'd be a very sweet wedding.

[DeadViolet offline]

Both, actually. It'd be a very sweet wedding.

Yumi in a shiny kimono and Ulrich in a tux~! Woot.
Very cute.