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Postby Metrion » Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:02 am

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Metrion wrote:Needless to say, I didn't expect that.

Um. Wow.

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Didn't expect what? For someone else to like the pairing? Or to rather fervently defend slash?


A little of both. (: I know a lot of people that are embarassed to admit they like slash.

Didn't mean to offend you or anything. Just slightly surprised.
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Postby LadyChaos » Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:07 am

Metrion wrote:A little of both. (: I know a lot of people that are embarassed to admit they like slash.

Didn't mean to offend you or anything. Just slightly surprised.


I'm not embarassed about it at all. Quite the opposite really. You didn't offend me. Just kinda confused me.

Hmm, if I wasn't so into writing Harry Potter fanfics right now, I'd have to try out writing an Odd/Ulrich story. Something for the backburner, I guess.
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Postby Metrion » Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:10 am

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Metrion wrote:A little of both. (: I know a lot of people that are embarassed to admit they like slash.

Didn't mean to offend you or anything. Just slightly surprised.


I'm not embarassed about it at all. Quite the opposite really. You didn't offend me. Just kinda confused me.

Hmm, if I wasn't so into writing Harry Potter fanfics right now, I'd have to try out writing an Odd/Ulrich story. Something for the backburner, I guess.


I'm glad. I wouldn't quite like anybody hating me on my first day, though I do want to set some standards so I don't make friends with people who will hate my views.

Haha, I'm writing an Odd/Ulrich fic now. The first one was fourty-seven hand-written pages, but I messed up a lot and am working on the revised version.
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Postby Odd675 » Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:15 am

i thinking a non-canon couples..what's about Yumi + Odd? That's so very dangerous about they as couples!
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Postby SamBlob » Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:44 am

Odd675 wrote:i thinking a non-canon couples..what's about Yumi + Odd? That's so very dangerous about they as couples!


Yumi's more likely to find Odd annoying than attractive. Then again, who knows? They might have had a mind meld when they switched bodies...

One of my fanfic ideas which I will probably never work out well enough to write begins with an adult Odd reflecting on his relationship with Milly and contemplating asking her to marry him... just before a car wipes out his motorcycle and puts him in a coma. (Actually, that's just about the beginning of the story...)
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Postby Metrion » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:18 am

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Odd675 wrote:i thinking a non-canon couples..what's about Yumi + Odd? That's so very dangerous about they as couples!


Yumi's more likely to find Odd annoying than attractive. Then again, who knows? They might have had a mind meld when they switched bodies...

One of my fanfic ideas which I will probably never work out well enough to write begins with an adult Odd reflecting on his relationship with Milly and contemplating asking her to marry him... just before a car wipes out his motorcycle and puts him in a coma. (Actually, that's just about the beginning of the story...)


I think it's a good idea, or at least a good start. I'd deffinately read it.
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Postby kyosuke » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:27 am

I did not want to start a new thread and it is related so I will ask this here.

Are Ulrich and Sissi Cannon or non-cannon?

Everyone knows they will not get together which seems to say non-cannon.

But the relationship drives more of the storyline then any other save Jeremy and Aelita.
Which says cannon.

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Postby emoBillâ„¢ » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:51 am

Well, I've seen a lot of J/Y out there, mostly because of what happened in "Image Problem" because of the polymorphic clone kissing Jer, and then when they defeated Xana, Yumi asks all cute-like "Are you sure it wasn't the real me?" and leans in. So...that one, I would support. O/A is pretty good too, however my heart belongs to J/A, U/S, Y/W, and O/C. C is for Calda. I'll put the story up soon in the fanfiction section. But I think you'll all think Calda and Odd is a good pair. But besides O/C, I think O/M is good for some weird reason. Either that or U/M, mostly because of in Teddygodzilla when she cried before asking him to the dance. I was crying too T-T Milly looked so cute...

Anyway, I'm done. Carry on.

P.S. Ulrich and Sissi would probably be non-canon, because we know YumixUlrich will SOOO get together in season 3. Mostly because of the almost-kiss in Routine.
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Postby LoVeIsBeAuTiFuL » Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:22 pm

Ok this site is making me mad I know everyone has a right to think what the want but this is pissing so I'm off the site for good
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Postby SamBlob » Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:26 pm

Calda Izumi wrote:Well, I've seen a lot of J/Y out there, mostly because of what happened in "Image Problem" because of the polymorphic clone kissing Jer, and then when they defeated Xana, Yumi asks all cute-like "Are you sure it wasn't the real me?" and leans in. So...that one, I would support.


That wasn't a polymorphic clone. It was a clone of Yumi. It couldn't change form. The first polymorph was seen in "XANA's Kiss" in the second season.

Calda Izumi wrote:I think O/M is good for some weird reason. Either that or U/M, mostly because of in Teddygodzilla when she cried before asking him to the dance. I was crying too T-T Milly looked so cute...


Milly and Tamiya have big crushes on Ulrich; however, it is usually Odd who comes to their aid and/or rescue.

Calda Izumi wrote:P.S. Ulrich and Sissi would probably be non-canon, because we know YumixUlrich will SOOO get together in season 3. Mostly because of the almost-kiss in Routine.


"Routine" was in the first season, which led everyone to believe the would "SOOO get together" in the second season. The writers are the only ones who know. The rest of us have to accept that what will be will be.

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Postby Taelia » Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:34 pm

Amen to that.
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Postby emoBillâ„¢ » Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:38 pm

Yeah, Brightstar.

Anyways...I was wondering what polymorphic meant ^^;;;; I was pretty sure it just meant clone, but thank you for enlightening me with the definition ^__^

Everyone has a crush on Ulrich, he's the school hottie =P
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Postby Overcaffeinated Sloth » Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:41 pm

Brightstar, you will come back. But if you are somehow reading this, take your time, go on another site for a while, I suggest Neopets, and just play some games and don't even think about LF.

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Postby Taelia » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:29 pm

JimxSuzanne is one of my favorites because in the second season, he seemed to have a strong interest in her.
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Postby LadyChaos » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:45 pm

Taelia wrote:JimxSuzanne is one of my favorites because in the second season, he seemed to have a strong interest in her.


I try to avoid thinking about teacher relationships. Just kinda weird to me.
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Postby Taelia » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:47 pm

Suit yourself.

I also like Ulrich/Yumi, Jeremie/Aelita, and Odd/Sissi.
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Postby Skorpigeist » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:35 pm

LadyChaos wrote:
Taelia wrote:JimxSuzanne is one of my favorites because in the second season, he seemed to have a strong interest in her.


I try to avoid thinking about teacher relationships. Just kinda weird to me.



meh it doesn't really bother me, but this last string of posts made me think about something that sort of bothers me. Why is it so taboo to show adults kiss on tv? I mean you can show teens kissing each other full on the mouth, but you better not catch an adult doing that. Case in point is the fact that in "Xana's Kiss," The fake Yolande kissed Jim on the cheek.

and yes i realize that is a big deviation of thought but it was something that intriqued me with the mention of teacher/teacher(staff) relationships
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Postby TB3 » Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:04 pm

Hmm...Jim and Yolanda never did anything for me, but Jim and Suzan Hertz is just plain scary!

Meh - non cannon couples - Odd x Sissi all the way!
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Postby Taelia » Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:21 pm

*high fives* You go, TB3! I recall that in The Key, he tried asking her out (or at least flirted with her). This picture proves it!:

http://www.codelyoko.net/FRA/image/Saison_2_Loic/Grande/Reminiscence/041.jpg

If she did say no, she was a lot kinder than her former self would've been. ;) I can hear Odd's heart beating now.
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Postby Mewberries151 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:24 am

kyosuke wrote:I did not want to start a new thread and it is related so I will ask this here.

Are Ulrich and Sissi Cannon or non-cannon?

Everyone knows they will not get together which seems to say non-cannon.

But the relationship drives more of the storyline then any other save Jeremy and Aelita.
Which says cannon.


Um...what about Ulrich and Yumi? I'd say that relationship drives the storyline as well. ^^; It's hinted at in far more episodes than U/S is present in. Sissi is missing entirely from some episodes. Ulrich and Yumi are in every one. ^^

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Postby kyosuke » Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:02 am

A.E.L.I.T.A.

Ulrich and Sissi would probably be non-canon, because we know YumixUlrich will SOOO get together in season 3. Mostly because of the almost-kiss in Routine.


If you are saying who we know get together it would be Ulrich and Yumi
If a kiss defines canon and non-canon then it would be Ulrich and Sissi.

Smallville is another good example who is canon Lana and Clark or Lois and Clark?

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How very true.



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Um...what about Ulrich and Yumi? I'd say that relationship drives the storyline as well. ^^; It's hinted at in far more episodes than U/S is present in. Sissi is missing entirely from some episodes. Ulrich and Yumi are in every one. ^^


First my point was trying to figure out how people define canon not debate relationships.

Yumi is the more important character. She reacts with the group and Ulrich on more levels then Sissi. If Yumi loses all interesting in Ulrich her relationship and membership with the group would not change.

The same could be said for Ulrich.

While for Sissi the vast majority of her role is defined by her relationship with Ulrich.
For example without it they can no longer go to her for help. Which has been very important for the storyline.

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Postby Aurelius » Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:10 pm

I haven't read much about Ulrich and Odd. Maybe I will and choose for myself!
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Postby Mewberries151 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:42 pm

kyosuke wrote:
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Um...what about Ulrich and Yumi? I'd say that relationship drives the storyline as well. ^^; It's hinted at in far more episodes than U/S is present in. Sissi is missing entirely from some episodes. Ulrich and Yumi are in every one. ^^


First my point was trying to figure out how people define canon not debate relationships.

Yumi is the more important character. She reacts with the group and Ulrich on more levels then Sissi. If Yumi loses all interesting in Ulrich her relationship and membership with the group would not change.

The same could be said for Ulrich.

While for Sissi the vast majority of her role is defined by her relationship with Ulrich.
For example without it they can no longer go to her for help. Which has been very important for the storyline.


This is true. Alot of her character development does indeed come from her dealings with Ulrich and the rest of the group.

Anyway, to answer your question about canon/non-canon couples, "canon" generally means that the show itself appears to be in support of that couple (and canon couples are usually comprised of the main characters, as opposed to more secondary characters like Sissi, although this is not a rule by any means, just a guideline). That's why J/A and Y/U are considered "canon" couples. The show continually has episodes that feature some sort of theme or showing of either couple displaying affection for each other. "TeddyGozilla", "Logbook", "Cruel Dilemma", "Image Problem", "Swarming Attack"...they all featured some sort of Y/U theme in them, among many other episodes. Yumi and Ulrich are both main characters as well. The same sort of generalization can go for Jeremie and Aelita.

Sissi/Ulrich is generally not canon because Ulrich still does not have a mutual amount of affection for her, and because Sissi has not had as many romantically inclined moments with him, as opposed to Yumi.

It is quite a conundrum though as to what makes a canon couple and what is non-canon. It changes for every show really and indeed can become mildly confusing. The biggest question nowadays, I suppose, is whether or not Odd/Sissi (which is mainly conjecture at this point) as opposed to Odd/Sam (whom he actually did display a significant amount of affection for).

To be canon, or not to be canon...that is the question. XD
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Postby Lani » Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:59 pm

Hm, well, there are non-canon couples then there are crack!couplings...

Thomas Jovilet/Anais Fiquet?
Emmanuel Maillard/Priscilla Blaisse?
Jean-Baptise Pujol/Jeanne Le Bihan?
Christphe M'Bala/Maitena Lecuyer?

...I could go on FOREVER pairing background characters up... regardless of age and gender xD;;
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Postby Mewberries151 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:22 pm

Lani wrote:Hm, well, there are non-canon couples then there are crack!couplings...

Thomas Jovilet/Anais Fiquet?
Emmanuel Maillard/Priscilla Blaisse?
Jean-Baptise Pujol/Jeanne Le Bihan?
Christphe M'Bala/Maitena Lecuyer?

...I could go on FOREVER pairing background characters up... regardless of age and gender xD;;


XD I'd never heard of those kind of couplings before. :*D The funny thing is, some of those might actually be canon. In the backgrounds, they always have some of the "extras" talking with one another, particularly in "The Key". It would be really funny to go back and re-watch that episode and find out some of those could really be "canon". :*D

I think Thomas may be my favorite extra...I'd have to check CL.com again to see if he's the one I'm thinking of...*snicker* ^^
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