Scyphozoa, will they never be able to destroy it?

[X.A.N.A offline]

So here's my question.


Aside from keeping it from being destroyed for the sake of the story, why have our heroes never been able to destroy it?


More to the point, they've never really tried. Sure it's tentacles have been severed, but no attempt to sever them and then aim for the Eye has been made.


Why do you think this is?

[Metrion offline]

Because then CL would be out of a plot.

[AmericanLyokoTeam offline]

(wooh, post 50! wooh! ok sorry, moving on.)

I figured it was just nigh-invincible, as a trade off for it not having any real weapons aside from draining/virusing. I'm not going back through all of season two but Surely Odd arrowed it across the eye at least once.

Besides, even if they did blow it up, couldn't XANA make another one like any other monster?

[X.A.N.A offline]

Besides, even if they did blow it up, couldn't XANA make another one like any other monster?

Well that's the thing. XANA normally has other monsters protecting it, so maybe it's a unique monster that if destroyed would either not be easy to make again or ever.

Congrats on the 50 posts, enjoy BKO (can't wait to get in there... I think being 21 makes me a 'big kid' ).

[Sithking Zero offline]

I have heard two theories as to why it cannot be destroyed (aside from the fact that nobody's ever tried):

One: The Scyphizoa is the physical embodiment of a portion of XANA, unlike monsters, which are merely controlled by XANA.

Two: The Scyphizoa is made from the very fabric of Lyoko itself, and thus cannot be destroyed.

[Reploid CB]

I could swear I've seen it get hit on the Eye sometimes. My guess is that its jellyfish head is a bigbig damage absorber.

[MY85 offline]

I could swear I've seen it get hit on the Eye sometimes.

Me too, really. Somewhere around Season 2, Odd with his laser arrow... a weird memory...

[Darkborn offline]

I've never seen them hit the target. Only the big head of his.

And thank you for spelling it "Scyphozoa". If you hadn't I would have spazzed.

[Astro-Xana offline]

Xana will be able to translate Xana William to any part of the world using Code: Earth. Xana can instantly hack into a satellite and use it in viewing in on a certain part of the world and gain info about this certain place of the world. After which, Xana will use this info from the satellite for the translation process through Code: Earth (in other words Xana will program this info from the satellite into the translation process through Code: Earth). Then from there, Xana can translate Xana William through Code: Earth to this certain part of the world once Xana William enters the one tower in the Sector 5 Replika (which is the only remaining Replika left now) which is the final Replika Franzified Aelita and Xana William will battle in the final episode of Code Lyoko titled "The Last Region."

In the final episode of Code Lyoko titled "The Last Region," Franz Hopper possesses Aelita through a white heavenly god-like Scyphozoa and Aelita (possessed by Franz Hopper) has white Xana symbols in her eyes indicating that she is possessed by Franz Hopper. Franzified Aelita and Xana William battle inside the Sector 5 Replika (which is a eerie dark Xanafied black sector). But despite Xana William's immense power, Franzified Aelita has more power and has the ability to fire highly destructive bright shining white lightning orbs and also has the ability to make the virtual sky turn pure white with white lightning ocurring from this pure white virtual sky.

[Jeremified offline]

It probably can't be destroyed... either that or Xana cheats. :O

[Lani offline]

It probably can't be destroyed... either that or Xana cheats. :O

Hah! I knew XANA was using cheat codes... that cheapo D:

Anyway, maybe you have to hit it in the eye several times. Maybe it's so fat that just one hit won't do it much good... but that's just me.

[I Love Yumi offline]

I never really thought about this. I would guess that it is a unique monster or is part of X.A.N.A. himself.

[Astro-Xana offline]

Within the newly transformed Sector 5 Replika (which is an eerie dark Xanafied version of Sector 5 which is either black or red like Zone Rouge) is the Black Core (aka the Corrupted Core of Lyoko) which is a black core with a red Xana symbol on it with a purple aura around the core. If the William side of Xana William (the good side of William) were to take over and stab his sword into the Black Core, there will be a bunch of purple electricity ocurring from the Black Core which will send Xana William backwards in an instant high voltage shock. In other words, the Black Core is a high voltage core that prevents any attack from destroying it.

[Stargate offline]

I always just assumed that the thing was specially protected or something....

[Ari Rockefeller offline]

Chances are they could destroy it, but the tentacles can block too much, I think. Plus if Ulrich tried getting in close with his katana, he could easily be ensnared and manipulated.

[Cassius335 offline]

Now I'm sure there are many ways the Scyphozoa can be destroyed. For one thing, Aelita can create a giant pedestal in Sector 5 and crush the Scyphozoa with it

When have she ever used her Creativity power is Sector 5? (though squashing the thing flat has a cetain appeal)

or create something inside the Scyphozoa which will make it explode.

Which falls under the category of "If she could, she'd have done it already." Besides, killing things by just making them explode gets old REAL fast (It did on Charmed)

Another thing is that Yumi can use her telekenisis in sending the Scyphozoa all the way down into the digital void.

Digital Sea. And I don't think Yumi can use her TK on XANA's Monsters directly. Besides, Skippy's probably kinda heavy.

Also, now that Franz Hopper has restored Aelita's memories, why can't Xana just steal them back again by having the Scyphozoa steal her restored memories which will result in her not being human all over again and in threat of not being materialized when all her life points are gone?

Theoretically, yes. He's certainly had plenty of chance. He clearly couldn't be bothered though.

Would you please referr to my previous post in this topic because I think those are interesting points that I would like answered?

No, shan't.

[Astro-Xana offline]

Forcefield Shockwave: Aelita will have the ability of sending destructive force fields through the ground or up a wall in which Aelita puts her hand on the ground or on a wall and says "Forcefield Shockwave!"

[adrimarie offline]

Also, now that Franz Hopper has restored Aelita's memories, why can't Xana just steal them back again by having the Scyphozoa steal her restored memories which will result in her not being human all over again and in threat of not being materialized when all her life points are gone?

Why would XANA do that again when he's already free? All he wanted from Aelita was to steal her memories, where the keys to Lyoko were hidden. Even if Franz Hopper restored all of Aelita's memories (and her copy of those keys to Lyoko), XANA already accomplished his mission. I didn't think XANA would care of Aelita's condition after the Scyphozoa had already done its job at last ("The Key"). Because XANA is now free, Aelita and Team Lyoko aren't as much of a threat for XANA as they were in the past now. That's how I see it after watching the episodes. x.x

[Skorpigeist offline]

Also, now that Franz Hopper has restored Aelita's memories, why can't Xana just steal them back again by having the Scyphozoa steal her restored memories which will result in her not being human all over again and in threat of not being materialized when all her life points are gone?

Why would XANA do that again when he's already free? All he wanted from Aelita was to steal her memories, where the keys to Lyoko were hidden. Even if Franz Hopper restored all of Aelita's memories (and her copy of those keys to Lyoko), XANA already accomplished his mission. I didn't think XANA would care of Aelita's condition after the Scyphozoa had already done its job at last ("The Key"). Because XANA is now free, Aelita and Team Lyoko aren't as much of a threat for XANA as they were in the past now. That's how I see it after watching the episodes. x.x

I definitely agree with this post. I also would like to add that the lyoko warriors have lost almost all of the ground they had gained on Xana in season 2. Xana is pretty much in control of the show at this current point

[Cassius335 offline]

Xana's basically won the last two seasons.

Season 2, get Aelita's memories and therefore her share of the keys to Lyoko. Sucessful.

Season 3. Delete Lyoko. Sucessful.

In Tennis terms, Xana's winning 2 Sets to 1 (despite the Warriors winning several Games along the way).

[Aurabolt offline]

But let's get back to the issue at hand: the Scyphozoa has been hit several times for the Lyoko Warriors, but never hit dead-on in the target eye. Odd's always hit the bubble that is it's head, and Yumi and Ulrich have always aimed for the tentacles.

As with most monsters, the thing should go down if you attack the target dead on, but it is much smaller than on other monsters and is nowhere else on the monsters body. I would require perfect accuracy.

[Stargate offline]

But let's get back to the issue at hand: the Scyphozoa has been hit several times for the Lyoko Warriors, but never hit dead-on in the target eye. Odd's always hit the bubble that is it's head, and Yumi and Ulrich have always aimed for the tentacles.

As with most monsters, the thing should go down if you attack the target dead on, but it is much smaller than on other monsters and is nowhere else on the monsters body. I would require perfect accuracy.

An excellent point, Aura. Also, I noticed that whenever we've seen the Scyphozoa it's usually been accompanied by several other monsters to protect it or to distract the Lyoko Warriors while it goes after Aelita; much like what Ulrich, Odd, and Yumi did with Aelita during the first two seasons when she was powerless.

[Aurabolt offline]

Not to mention that Aelita's energy field attack as too long to charge, considering it's incredible destructive force, since it's taken out every monster and negated a Megatank's blast: No weapon so far has been able to do that.

Unless Ulrich and the others were distracting the Scyphozoa, there is no way she'd get a shot off that could hit the thing.

[Astro-Xana offline]

Why would XANA do that again when he's already free? All he wanted from Aelita was to steal her memories, where the keys to Lyoko were hidden. Even if Franz Hopper restored all of Aelita's memories (and her copy of those keys to Lyoko), XANA already accomplished his mission. I didn't think XANA would care of Aelita's condition after the Scyphozoa had already done its job at last ("The Key"). Because XANA is now free, Aelita and Team Lyoko aren't as much of a threat for XANA as they were in the past now. That's how I see it after watching the episodes. x.x

Xana likes to pose threats for anybody. Therefore, when Season 4 is introduced, Xana can have a Scyphozoa in the Internet steal Aelita's memory all over again so she is in threat of disappearing when her life points are gone. That will prove useful for Xana because Aelita is the most powerful in the team (and will obviously be much more powerful in the Internet in Season 4). So any threat posed towards Aelita or anyone in the gang is an advantage for Xana because of the fact that he is cold-blooded as well and likes to see people suffer regardless if these people are no threat to Xana.

[Aurabolt offline]

I'd be careful calling Aelita the most powerful though. Technically, yes; she has the most powerful attack and the most altering special ability and the most life points, but you have to consider that there are key parts of her personality and character concept which make Ulrich and Yumi seem the most balanced.

Consider that Aelita doesn't use the energy field that much. She isn't used to combat, and prefers to let experienced warriors like Ulrich, Odd, and Yumi handle the situation. She was given a more powerful attack than the others to compensate. Mainly, she uses the field for defense. Not to mention her attack takes charge time. Hard to hit quicker enemies.

Second of all, her ability is the one that takes the most life points in exchange for leveling the playing field...literally. Back in the first two seasons, using that power was almost bringing her to death and back. Since she's capable of normal materialization, it's not as big a deal anymore, but to use it is still more likely than her using her attacks, which could be a problem.