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Where to go from here?

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Postby TB3 » Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:43 am

Hmm - I come back from several days and am initially pleased to find near 50 new posts - and then I find you guys were at each other's throats.

Peace guys.

Yes I do read all new posts.

Mooshie, despite your personal opinions, the information researched by Chupthingy holds to theories held by current scientists - need I remind you that this is science-fiction and thus we can take some liberties - you always seem to be trying to shoot us in the feet just when we're getting some momentum going.

The main reason I've been away - computer issues, plus I was hoping to have some news for you guys, but am still waiting for it.

So for now, please go on posting and debating, but remember to keep it civil. Soon we'll need to start working on Part 2 of the essay, and I'd rather if we weren't engaged in a flame war at the time.

Peace out. :thumbs up:
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Postby Key » Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:42 am

Wasn't as bad as they were predicting. Probably because the whole thing was patched up before you got here.

mooshie wrote:wow, I missed a lot, such as GivR GivaRse contradicting himself
Hmm, how could I put this taintfully?
right after claiming that he was mature and using his "advanced vocabulary" as example, of why this had to be true, of course I don't mean any offense, and in relation to GivR's question about the return to the past, you could probably look over the thread but to sum it up it's still speculative chupathingy42 claims it's due to an already existing particle that has an imaginary mass, actually has a negative mass, and even though the reason it can go more than light speed is that it ignores relativity, says that realtivity still applies, and besides that scientifically improbably theory but simpler theory, then there is the other (ok, fine it was mine) theory that because of quantum probability, there must be multiple timelines (in theory an almost infinite amount since the amount increases exponentially with each nanosecond) thereforeone might be able to trave outside of a timeline and thereby cicumvent the "arrow of time" something not possible with traditional linear time


It would be interesting to hear this coming from someone's mouth...do you talk like this in school? I'm sure the kids look like this: :snoring:

;)

Yes, I could have looked over about, hmm...32 pages of thread, but what are the odds that I'd fall asleep during the process? It's like reading a book. However, that's not what I asked. At least I don't think it was.

How FAR can they go back in time?

Just give it to me, plain and simple.

I need to know something...
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Postby Chosen_one » Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:55 am

Sithking Zero wrote:As to why one isn't instantly devirtualized when one gets to sector five, I suppose it's because Franz would want to go there from time to time. It would be hard to controll all of Lyoko when one cannot get to the area controlling Lyoko, hmm?
I thought so, but couldn't he have made it so he and Aelita would be the only ones able to access it?
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Postby Cassius335 » Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:03 am

If he's seen ANY of the relevant sci-fi, no. One system error and suddenly the computer doesn't recognise them anymore.
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Postby Key » Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:20 am

Are you sure about that? If Franz Hopper was that good of a scientist, that would never happen.

How good of a scientist is he anyway. Most everything he did, failed.
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Postby Sithking Zero » Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:38 am

Chosen_one wrote:
Sithking Zero wrote:As to why one isn't instantly devirtualized when one gets to sector five, I suppose it's because Franz would want to go there from time to time. It would be hard to controll all of Lyoko when one cannot get to the area controlling Lyoko, hmm?
I thought so, but couldn't he have made it so he and Aelita would be the only ones able to access it?


Well, what if other people were planned to go in? Franz DID build three scanners, if you recall. Also, when he and Aelita virtualized themselves into Lyoko, Lyoko was incomplete. It lacked many fail-safes and had numerous glitches, such as the fact that both Aelita and Franz were vulnerable, and of course, XANA.
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Postby Cassius335 » Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:41 am

GivR wrote:Are you sure about that? If Franz Hopper was that good of a scientist, that would never happen.

How good of a scientist is he anyway. Most everything he did, failed.


Exactly. It's pure Murphy's Law: If something can go wrong, it will and in the most entertaining fashion possible...
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Postby Key » Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:13 am

Sithking Zero wrote:
Chosen_one wrote:
Sithking Zero wrote:As to why one isn't instantly devirtualized when one gets to sector five, I suppose it's because Franz would want to go there from time to time. It would be hard to controll all of Lyoko when one cannot get to the area controlling Lyoko, hmm?
I thought so, but couldn't he have made it so he and Aelita would be the only ones able to access it?


Well, what if other people were planned to go in? Franz DID build three scanners, if you recall. Also, when he and Aelita virtualized themselves into Lyoko, Lyoko was incomplete. It lacked many fail-safes and had numerous glitches, such as the fact that both Aelita and Franz were vulnerable, and of course, XANA.


Maybe because he built it earlier, and him, Aelita, and her mom were supposed to go to Lyoko. But then Aelita's mom died. (It's safe to assume such, because Aelita did say "My father's all I have left of my past life.") But does Aelita actually know what happend to her mother? I mean, she HAS been wrong about herself before.

Cassius335 wrote:Exactly. It's pure Murphy's Law: If something can go wrong, it will and in the most entertaining fashion possible...


Does his law also state that if when your wanting to win something, feel like it's not going to happen, (Like you DONT want to win it) . Then you'll win. THAT'S WORKED!!

Also, if you in a situation where you're at a ceremony at school, and the speaker wants everyone to raise their hand, and the person who gets picked wins $100, look into their eyes while raising your hand. That REALLY works.
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Postby Reesane » Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:13 am

Cassius335 wrote:
GivR wrote:Are you sure about that? If Franz Hopper was that good of a scientist, that would never happen.

How good of a scientist is he anyway. Most everything he did, failed.


Exactly. It's pure Murphy's Law: If something can go wrong, it will and in the most entertaining fashion possible...


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Yessss..... Murphy's Laws....

1. If it can go wrong, it will go wrong.
2. If it can't go wrong, it will go wrong.
3. Any attempt to do nothing so that nothing can go wrong, will go wrong.


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Postby Key » Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:23 am

Bingo!

If Murphy's Law states that "If anything that can go wrong, will"...then a plan should be used to counter that.

In this case:

I should WANT something to go wrong, so that I don't win the MILLION DOLLARS.

So, that will activate Murphy's Law, and my plan will go wrong, so I'll WIN the million dollars.

Or would that plan just go wrong as well? Not if it's done right, if you REALLY don't want to win, I'll win.
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Postby Reesane » Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:29 am

GivR wrote:Bingo!

If Murphy's Law states that "If anything that can go wrong, will"...then a plan should be used to counter that.

In this case:

I should WANT something to go wrong, so that I don't win the MILLION DOLLARS.

So, that will activate Murphy's Law, and my plan will go wrong, so I'll WIN the million dollars.

Or would that plan just go wrong as well? Not if it's done right, if you REALLY don't want to win, I'll win.


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Postby Key » Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:31 am

And it works too. Everytime.

The trick is to BELIEVE you won't win.
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Postby Reesane » Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:11 pm

*grumbles* Well, I realy never wanted to do this, but it's time I bring up my other hobby in LTT: Creatures. Creatures is a vurtulal life simulation in which there are three difrent breads of vurtual creatures: Norns, Ettenns, and Grendles. They have DDNA (Digetal DNA). more importently for this discushion, however, is their primitve vurtual brain. Basicly, their brains a simmler to a real animals brain. I think that the games are just a simplefyed version of Lyoko.

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The Norn brain.
The "Are creatures alive debates"
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Postby Key » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:40 pm

Hold that thought.

Another rumor has arisen that states XANA wasn't always evil...I mean, think about it...remember the first episode?

XANA had listened to Milly crying, stating, "I hate them! I have each and everyone of them...!" It was as if, XANA had recorded this...

And in the prequel, XANA just went after whatever had disturbed him...


But my main focus is, why did XANA have to record Milly's pouting in that episode? He NEVER did that in any other...
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Postby Cassius335 » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:49 pm

Looking for insperation, I think. Rita Repulsa did THAT all the time (like one episode where the Blue Ranger got a B on his test (which he was dissapointed with) and Rita sicced a Bumblebee monster on him.

And XANA may have done it again since. By giving Yumi's class that field trip ("The Forest may soon be gone"), Suzanne Hertz may be indirectly responsible for XANA deleting Lyoko!
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Postby Key » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:58 pm

So, XANA observes what takes place in the real world so that he ca plan his attacks based on what he sees?

Duh, I mean, he has to right? Otherwise, he wouldn't know when, how, or where to strike...correct?
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Postby Cassius335 » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:59 pm

It's either that or throw darts at a picture of the world... :nyeh!:
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Postby Key » Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:02 pm

Good analogy...
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Postby YDV » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:23 pm

Rar..... Hey guys. T__T I feel like a bad Lyokologist. I haven't been here in forever. Um well. From what I can see that makes sense.... XANA's sort of like lawl, world. And yeah.
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Postby Sithking Zero » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:16 pm

I have a question.

Since the Lyoko people's clothing is probably made of cotton or other organic substance, why doesn't the supercalculator turn the clothes into plants when they're scanned in (due to their DNA?)
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Postby Chosen_one » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:22 pm

Most likely the supercomputer recognizes clothes and only transfers human beings. That's why the test tube wasn't transferred in "Just in Time."
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Postby Reesane » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:24 pm

Sithking Zero wrote:I have a question.

Since the Lyoko people's clothing is probably made of cotton or other organic substance, why doesn't the supercalculator turn the clothes into plants when they're scanned in (due to their DNA?)


Ah, yes... but what about in reverse? Don't think about it too hard......
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Postby Tangent128 » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:16 pm

* saw a fallout shelter today... it was dark. * XANA burned my popcorn...

Anyway, I was reading an article on computers, and ran across a computer pioneer with a familiar last name. Did Moonscoop have her in mind?
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Postby Cassius335 » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:18 pm

The Navy? Maybe that's where Aelita's Mom ended up...
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Postby Sithking Zero » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:19 pm

Chosen_one wrote:Most likely the supercomputer recognizes clothes and only transfers human beings. That's why the test tube wasn't transferred in "Just in Time."


The polymorphic clone in "Revelation" begs to differ with that statement.
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