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Will odd and sissy ever date

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Postby Cassius335 » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:20 am

JxA Addiction wrote:I bet Yumi would get to Sissy before Ulrich ever even thought of it.


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More serioiusly, the entire team would possibly help take Sissi out of the picture, should the need arise.
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Postby Carth » Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:04 am

Skysong wrote:While I am the first to jump at circumstantial evidence... for once, I don't think it proves much. Odd's a really nice guy when you get right down to it, and the only time it's fun to be evil to someone is when they can be evil back. Odd knows when to be nice.

Also, I doubt it was a planned thing; one of the animators probably just added it (a la Crazy Foaming Guy's performance on Avatar).


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Skysong wrote:That *is* true. We all know Odd thinks Sissi is pretty, but he's turned off by her personality. However, considering all the stuff they went through in season two, I think he's starting to realize she's a good person (as opposed to just helping her out because he knows it's the right thing to do).

Considering, I am hopeful for them in season four. Season three did nothing; it was cool and all, but it was mostly setup, and there wasn't that much interesting stuff with the characters.


I agree with this, fully. I think that S4 will be a good setup season for the couple.

I also came up with a very big observation for S4, but it has nothing to do with OxS. So, I'll post it in the speculation thread.
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Postby AmericanLyokoTeam » Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:30 pm

You know after the way S3 ended, I don't really see Sissi ever being allowed to join the gang anymore. I mean for starters they can't really trust her to keep the secret anyway, she's more of a questionable fighter than William even (Although at the opposite extreme of standing back too much,) and there is no way they'ed ever vote to let her in, their concerns for they saftey of anybody else they'ed let in would outweigh the benefits.

That doesn't mean I have any lesser hopes for OxSi, it could easily happen sans the Lyoko half. It just says to me that she would be something more of an Earth distraction than a real warrior when it comes to action.

As for how to avoid the cheesiness, I dunno. It requires some work on Sissi as an individual first, like in S2 when she jumped into the fight or had an earnest talk with William, humanizing moments to make her smarter. Also they have to find some way to kill her attraction to Ulrich for good. You can't undo 3 seasons + backstory like that easily, so whew. Thats a season spanning task right there.
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Postby Taelia » Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:00 pm

Especially after what happened in the prequel. ;__; Now she'll never have real friends.
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Postby Sithking Zero » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:49 pm

Well, while Sissi advocated the turning-off of Lyoko (of which she had not truly seen and comprehended the fact that Aelita was a sentient being), they let Ulrich back into the group after he knowingly made XANA stronger by doing a return to the past. Perhaps they're not on the same scale of things, but if he hadn't done that, it's possible that Season three would not have happened because XANA would be weaker, and they would have found Franz. In my opinion, that was almost as bad as advocating the turning- off of Lyoko. In fact, it's worse, because Sissi was assing the situation as "there's a demon who wants to destroy the world inside the computer, and turning it off will shut it off." I would have done what Sissi did in that situation (more politely, but still). Ulrich knowingly helped the demon.

So, really, I think that the best way for Sissi to get in the group is for there to be such an urgent need for help (say, Will is constantly kicking (BKO) on the intenet) and need support on their missions. That, or she starts to be nicer. Either way.
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Postby Taelia » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:09 pm

Good thinking Sithking Zero. I agree with you.
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Postby knifey » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:32 pm

Sithking Zero wrote:Ulrich knowingly helped the demon.
And for a somewhat more selfish cause. But then again Sissi probably told Jim and her father to shut off the SC just to get revenge, while using the "There's a demon in there" as an excuse.

I hope there will at least be some small, if any, hints of the two having good interaction in S4. <-- Added just so I can avoid somewhat spam.
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Postby Skysong » Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:23 pm

Non-cheesy? I'm not sure. *All* romance in CL is cheesy (you know it's true).

I haven't really thought about how they'd get together in the continuity of the show, to tell the truth. I like working with older versions or doing AUs. They'll probably get stuck together somehow- in Lyoko or on earth or something.
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Postby AmericanLyokoTeam » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:08 am

OxSi is best when you try to think of how to do it in canon, it's the biggest challange and has an interesting effect on both characters. I want to see the writers try it, if nothing else, to see how closely it matches up to my notions of how it should be. I think there is a good smatter of evidence they're actually considering it if nothing else.
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Postby MY85 » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:14 am

Skysong wrote:Non-cheesy? I'm not sure. *All* romance in CL is cheesy (you know it's true).


Agreed. Notoriously examples of the cheesy romance comes along with the blushing, which kills any possible serious romance aspect. I might be wrong on this statement, though.
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Postby knifey » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:00 am

Alright, lemme try to rephrase the corny part a bit.

*clears throat* Keeping the cheesyness to a minimum... or as small as possible... just so our teeth don't melt.

Why don't I just say, "How do you think they can get together staying IC?"

Yeah, that's better... I hope.
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Postby Skysong » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:23 pm

Staying IC is pretty easy... if they ever hook up, it'll be, like I said, because they got stuck together somewhere. They'll end up having a "heartfelt talk" and realizing the other isn't so bad. Probably, they'll end up feeling stupid for disliking each other for so long, since they are pretty alike. Odd knows that Sissi isn't so bad, thinks she's attractive, and maybekindasorta likes her... so! Love blooms! Or something.

...personally, I'm voting for the "or something". It'd be funny to have them in total denial for a while (not *too* long, though, or it'd just get annoying).
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Postby Sithking Zero » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:39 pm

*Cough**UlrichandYumi**Cough*
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Postby Cassius335 » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:19 pm

Sith has a point. UxY has done denial to death. Maybe something like XanderxCordelia in buffy?
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Postby Skysong » Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:32 pm

Not denial as in *romantic* denial. Comic denial. Like "hide under the table whenever other person passes" denial. That'd be cool.

If they pulled UxY, I'd shoot myself.
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Postby RySenkari » Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:59 am

I'm still holding out hope that Sissi will make it to Lyoko somehow, of course after the events of season three that's HIGHLY unlikely but still... and I can DEFINITELY hope for OddxSissi. They just seem like the kinda couple that would sit down by the fire 20 years later and tell their kids about how much they hated each other back when they were in school, and about all the funny stuff they pulled on each other (aka stuff like in my fic Sissi's Odd Predicament)

And if they ever DO get together, you know there'll be a lot of making out, lol.
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Postby Shark » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:54 pm

I was a non-believer at first, but after rewatching every episode and reading a few fics, I'm starting to come on board.
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Postby Writing_Addict » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:15 pm

I'm a total freak when it comes to OxSi. But it's dying because nobody can write a GOOD fic....
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Postby Sithking Zero » Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:21 pm

Well, we try. And I admit that my fic Accidentally in love wasn't my best work, but I personally like some of the stuff out there. Too bad Green Earth PFC removed his fic "Another December in France." that was one of the best fics, but he needed to re-write it.
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Postby kizzi297 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:26 pm

my story was somewhat good,its better then most my fics,though i made it back when I hadn't seen that many eps so they're kinda ooc. but anywyas,I would love to see more and maybe even write more,but this couple isn't as popular as it seems to be here,it's way not cool.
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Postby Sithking Zero » Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:38 pm

Yeah, ever since "XANA Awakens" Sissi's name means mud with a good chunk of the LF populace, and provided those who hated her already an even greater reason to hate. Right now's not really the time for Sissi to shine. Now, if she was shown in a more positive light in S4, she might stand a chance, and stories involving her might gain more popularity, but right now, her name is the bane of a storywriter's existence.
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Postby Skysong » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:49 pm

Hearing that Sissi is even less popular than usual makes me feel guilty for not being involved in this fandom lately... I like championing characters.

...but Avatar owns my soul... seriously, lost it in a poker game.

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Postby Sithking Zero » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:59 pm

It's okay, Skysong. We all know that incredible creative genius needs some time to recharge the old OXSi Batteries (though adopting new fandoms can also sidetrack you...).


However, if you don't start writing OXSi again soon, I will steal your soul and seal it away in a cardboard box.
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Postby kizzi297 » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:46 pm

Sithking Zero wrote:It's okay, Skysong. We all know that incredible creative genius needs some time to recharge the old OXSi Batteries (though adopting new fandoms can also sidetrack you...).


However, if you don't start writing OXSi again soon, I will steal your soul and seal it away in a cardboard box.

that sound very violent....

i fell sorry for sissi,everyone hates her. she's been my favorite character (after odd) since the first ep I've seen her in...though i'm not sure why.

(off topic:i just had to wait an hour and a half in my van for my cousin to jump it in 15 dagree wiether,i'm so cold)

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Postby Carth » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:05 pm

Huh, after seeing half of Season 4, with no inklings of OddxSissi at all...let alone barely any Sissi, period...I dunno. Still, I find it a possibility still. With all those strange little moments (the nose kiss, the fall, the thing with the internet in S2) you'd have to think it meant SOMETHING. Either that, or it's all one big red herring.

Either way, I still think it's a cute couple. And there's still several more episodes/maybe a whole season to go.

Is it okay if I resurrect the couple threads? It'll give the good people something to do...
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