So I suddenly realize...

[. offline]

I'm tired of feeling this lonelyness in the pit of my gut at night.

I'm tired of feeling desperate... I am freaking desperate but when you feel like your self-worth is equalevelent to that of a penny do to all the times you actually cared about the girl and failed, is that really my fault?

I'm tired of being told I'm a nice guy and that if I'm patient it's going to come to me. Ya know upon further inspection I'm not a nice guy. I have my fair share of being the bad guy. I'm no better then joe blow down the block. What sets me a apparent? I got a bloody set of morals I only abide by half the time because I'm a hypocrite?

I'm just tired of it all. and worst of all there is nothing at all I can do to improve my situation. I got my back to the wall and I'm in a constant beat down and I just got...

I'm so sick of this. I'd give the world just for relief.

[Rail Runner offline]

I wish I knew how to help you. The only thing I can tell you is just to keep trying. Morals are a good thing. Keep them up. Dont settle for something that you normally wouldnt settle for at all.

There have been times where I have felt that my back was against the wall..but I kept trying, no matter how bad things felt or got, and it worked out. I know you feel pretty helpless and desperate, but we all feel like that at times. Believe me, you are not alone man.

[Gauntlet offline]

I recall a Biblical story I heard from someone a while ago. It was a pretty good story. (You may or may not be Christian, but just listen to it and read between the lines of the following story)

Jesus said you can build your houses on sand, or on stone. If you build your house on sand, rain and storms will blow it away. If you build it on rock, your house will stand strong through rain and storm.

If you let something so small define who you are, then of course you'll have feelings of self doubt. So what, you might also have similar attitude, or exemplify the bad things of jerks, what are you going to do? Let yourself go and think you're turning into a bad guy, or smarten up, know you're not one of them, and fix your problems.

Everyone has those feelings of being beat down, cornered and being crushed by problems. I'm going through that right now, though academically. I'm not going to sit around, sulking about how I won't be able to finish whatever is due, I'm going to get it done and stop thinking of myself as a failure. I'm on a break, shush.

Maybe what you need to do is hit rock bottom, though. Spend a few days in a jerk's shoes, do whatever you think a jerk would do (sans the extreme things), and you'll realize how revolting it is, and you'll be glad to be yourself again. Rock bottom is pretty much the only way you'll get to see things and stop comparing yourself to other people, otherwise you'll keep coming back for the same advice.

I'm not trying to attack you, or make fun of you, but instead trying to make you realize you're fine, and your feelings are fine. It's normal, but don't delve on those bad feelings.

[. offline]

I recall a Biblical story I heard from someone a while ago. It was a pretty good story. (You may or may not be Christian, but just listen to it and read between the lines of the following story)

I'm agnostic.

Jesus said you can build your houses on sand, or on stone. If you build your house on sand, rain and storms will blow it away. If you build it on rock, your house will stand strong through rain and storm.

If you let something so small define who you are, then of course you'll have feelings of self doubt. So what, you might also have similar attitude, or exemplify the bad things of jerks, what are you going to do? Let yourself go and think you're turning into a bad guy, or smarten up, know you're not one of them, and fix your problems.

Read beteewn these lines: And while the building may keep standing for a long time at one point the beating is going to take a toll on it and it will fall down.

Everyone has those feelings of being beat down, cornered and being crushed by problems. I'm going through that right now, though academically. I'm not going to sit around, sulking about how I won't be able to finish whatever is due, I'm going to get it done and stop thinking of myself as a failure. I'm on a break, shush.

Well there Dr. Phill, you see you can go and actually DO something to fix your problem. All I can do is WAIT! Same thing I've been flippin' doing for the past few years. I can't DO anything! I can't even commit suicide to be free of it because then I'll be alone AND dead. So I have to wait! I can't improve my situation at all! I gotta wait threw it like I've been doing!

Maybe what you need to do is hit rock bottom, though. Spend a few days in a jerk's shoes, do whatever you think a jerk would do (sans the extreme things), and you'll realize how revolting it is, and you'll be glad to be yourself again. Rock bottom is pretty much the only way you'll get to see things and stop comparing yourself to other people, otherwise you'll keep coming back for the same advice.

Be brilliant if I was an alchoholic. <.<

I'm not trying to attack you, or make fun of you, but instead trying to make you realize you're fine, and your feelings are fine. It's normal, but don't delve on those bad feelings.

Oh sure I'm fine. And lord knows I dewle on this all the time. <.< (note sarcasm)

[Gauntlet offline]

Alright Mr. Whiner, I'm taking time out of my schedule to write out a serious answer that I feel will help you, and you respond with some sarcastic remark. That tells me a lot about why you are where you are.

It's honestly a lost cause at this point. You just want someone to baby you, to fix your problems; unfortunately, the Wizard of Oz doesn't live in the United States, and can't wave his wand to make all your problems disappear. You post for help, but whenever someone makes a post, or gives some advice, you find 101 reasons why the advice doesn't work.

Honestly, I don't know why this comes up, or why I'm even posting at this point. You will crash every piece of advice, and nothing short of an apocalypse will make you change your attitude and mindset.

You're only looking for someone to feel sorry for you. You're lying down on the ground, and asking for help, right? Except you're not doing anything, you're lying there like a stone tablet expecting someone to pick you up by themselves. The day you hit rock bottom, and I mean rock bottom, is the day you're tired of that self-pity, and start moving forward. Until then, you'll be on the ground fishing for people to pick you up.

There, you want my honest-to-God advice, chew on that for a while. People with your kind of attitude bug me like hell; I'm trying to help you, and you turn around with some smartass response.

I'm beginning to think you want this routine post.

[Jeremified offline]

Viewing this from a 3rd person point:

Gauntlet, while you are right about some of what you just said, I think he may have a reason for his attitude. Read through his rant again! He's obviously having a rough time. While this doesn't give him the right to treat you that way, you need to understand that he's having problems, not you, so you don't need to go eye-for-an-eye here.

PepsiPiper, although you're having a rough time, you should appreciate the fact that a fellow member took the time to give you a fairly large amount of advice and not treat it like junk mail. Gauntlet actually gave very good advice; it's obvious that your situation is causing you to look at the bad points quite a deal more than the points that helped you out (and I'm sure there was some that did.) Try and turn your censuring into thankfulness, or at least criticism. (Censuring=looking at bad parts only, criticism=evaluating good and bad parts alike, and hopefully I don't need to define thankfulness for you.)

[. offline]

Alright Mr. Whiner, I'm taking time out of my schedule to write out a serious answer that I feel will help you, and you respond with some sarcastic remark. That tells me a lot about why you are where you are.

It's honestly a lost cause at this point. You just want someone to baby you, to fix your problems; unfortunately, the Wizard of Oz doesn't live in the United States, and can't wave his wand to make all your problems disappear. You post for help, but whenever someone makes a post, or gives some advice, you find 101 reasons why the advice doesn't work.

Honestly, I don't know why this comes up, or why I'm even posting at this point. You will crash every piece of advice, and nothing short of an apocalypse will make you change your attitude and mindset.

You're only looking for someone to feel sorry for you. You're lying down on the ground, and asking for help, right? Except you're not doing anything, you're lying there like a stone tablet expecting someone to pick you up by themselves. The day you hit rock bottom, and I mean rock bottom, is the day you're tired of that self-pity, and start moving forward. Until then, you'll be on the ground fishing for people to pick you up.

There, you want my honest-to-God advice, chew on that for a while. People with your kind of attitude bug me like hell; I'm trying to help you, and you turn around with some smartass response.

I'm beginning to think you want this routine post.

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Wow gee, you sure know all the answers and have me played out to the T. <.<

NO ONE CAN FIX MY PROBLEMS! If you had any commonsense you'd see the only thing I can do is the same thing I've been doing is waiting. I don't need anyones pity because all other aspects of my life are pretty well just this one part of it. It FUSTRATES me. I need to VENT sometimes. I never asked for help because I all ready know the solution.

So why don't you back off, bub.

[Gauntlet offline]

Alright Mr. Whiner, I'm taking time out of my schedule to write out a serious answer that I feel will help you, and you respond with some sarcastic remark. That tells me a lot about why you are where you are.

It's honestly a lost cause at this point. You just want someone to baby you, to fix your problems; unfortunately, the Wizard of Oz doesn't live in the United States, and can't wave his wand to make all your problems disappear. You post for help, but whenever someone makes a post, or gives some advice, you find 101 reasons why the advice doesn't work.

Honestly, I don't know why this comes up, or why I'm even posting at this point. You will crash every piece of advice, and nothing short of an apocalypse will make you change your attitude and mindset.

You're only looking for someone to feel sorry for you. You're lying down on the ground, and asking for help, right? Except you're not doing anything, you're lying there like a stone tablet expecting someone to pick you up by themselves. The day you hit rock bottom, and I mean rock bottom, is the day you're tired of that self-pity, and start moving forward. Until then, you'll be on the ground fishing for people to pick you up.

There, you want my honest-to-God advice, chew on that for a while. People with your kind of attitude bug me like hell; I'm trying to help you, and you turn around with some smartass response.

I'm beginning to think you want this routine post.

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Wow gee, you sure know all the answers and have me played out to the T. <.<

NO ONE CAN FIX MY PROBLEMS! If you had any commonsense you'd see the only thing I can do is the same thing I've been doing is waiting. I don't need anyones pity because all other aspects of my life are pretty well just this one part of it. It FUSTRATES me. I need to VENT sometimes. I never asked for help because I all ready know the solution.

So why don't you back off, bub.

I'm not pitying you; I'm sympathizing with you. Apparently, you're the one lacking common-sense; in no way would I look down upon another person. I tried to give you some advice while trying to view things from your viewpoint, and then you shot back at me.

If you don't want advice, please post it next time. Otherwise, I'm going to say something that I hope will help you, and hope I don't get chewed out for it.

[Paige offline]

Alright, I'm not going to sit her and tell you to be patient and wait.

I have said that, but I have also said to be bold and ask out a girl you see anywhere. Take a risk, or many! One of them is BOUND to say yes.

You keep saying you're tired of waiting, so get out and DO something to do away with all of the waiting.

You have control over your loneliness.... no one else does.

[. offline]

I have, been there, still trying that there Paige hun I've been taking your advice. Just well, obviously, Sunday's Sun has yet to be Shown on me.

[Ulrich's lil bro offline]

Damn, I can relate to what you're feeling. That feeling you get that the bad keeps piling up? That for every good there is double the bad? Yeah, that's how i feel. And i've found out the hard way that life is reality and reality is a b****. Seriously, wether there's good or bad, there's always going to be the other. people say there are 2 sides to the coin. But who knew that you'd find more sides when you grab another coin? it's messed up i know. You feel like the fates spit on you huh. I'm not gonna tell you to be patient either. Because that's a bunch of bull.

But listen, if you want to escape the feeling, break the wall, and destroy every obstacle that stands in your way, go ahead. By all means go ahead, get a little wild and then look at yourself. A beast. A beast with no chains at all. King Kong before death. Don't become a vision of the opposite of what you've been working for you're whole life. I'm not saying to sit there and eat s*** but I'm not saying to stand up for the rest of your life. Like others said, DO something, but not just anything. Something that will make you feel good. Something that will give you the relief you've been looking for. And who the f*** says you can't! Who's gonna stop you? An invisible force? Nobody's stopping you. You do what you want. But that doesn't mean to go and get rid of every moral you have. That's just idiotic.

In other words, when bad stuff pokes you again, f*** it. F*** everything. Grab your flippin soul and drive it where YOU want to go. Not where you think others want it to go. Stay true. Be real and when a girl doesn't like you yet, keep lookin. I don't go by many sayings, but i have my own way of things. "Whatever drags you down makes you stronger. Go and confront it. Victory is yours" Get beat up 3,000 f****ing times! But keep trying.

Great, I just wrote like if I was a motivational speaker. Oh well...
I know that you'd probably think, "who the hell is this kid that thinks he knows what I'm goin through?" Very well. I'll get out of your way and you'll never have to see me again. But, it's not that easy. You will always see someone again. I don't know why. It's just like that. Ya can't get rid of someone like that.

I don't know if anything i said helps you at all, but think about your situation. And don't get so mad at Gauntlet for tryin to help you. There was nothing in there that could possibly make you pissed. if you think I offended you too, then go ahead and chew me out. I can take it.

[matsumo itsu offline]

yeah keep up your morals.i keep mine down but im fine.yet its not worth it.trust me.right there and not to great.better the morals the better you are trust me.

[Jeremified offline]

Okay. I actually sat down and studied this little dilemma here for awhile so I could help PepsiPiper and Gauntlet get along. Why is it that my first post was completely disregarded?

[Gauntlet offline]

Okay. I actually sat down and studied this little dilemma here for awhile so I could help PepsiPiper and Gauntlet get along. Why is it that my first post was completely disregarded?

I'm sorry. I appreciate your third person view on the whole situation, but I had no vendetta with PepsiPiper in the first place. I'm too lazy to hold a grudge anyways.

It's no big deal. He already chose to "go out there and be aggressive" to find a significant other, nothing more I can do. I doubt you can convince anyone to change their dating decisions, let alone change anyone's mindset on any subject; it's not just PepsiPiper.

Thanks again, Jerfied.

[TB3]

Glad to see you guys have calmed a little.

More on topic, I'm sorry for you PepsiPiper - and if you ever need someone to talk to then feel free to PM me.

[Jeremified offline]

Okay. I actually sat down and studied this little dilemma here for awhile so I could help PepsiPiper and Gauntlet get along. Why is it that my first post was completely disregarded?

I'm sorry. I appreciate your third person view on the whole situation, but I had no vendetta with PepsiPiper in the first place. I'm too lazy to hold a grudge anyways.

It's no big deal. He already chose to "go out there and be aggressive" to find a significant other, nothing more I can do. I doubt you can convince anyone to change their dating decisions, let alone change anyone's mindset on any subject; it's not just PepsiPiper.

Thanks again, Jerfied.

Thanks and you're welcome. Glad I was of some help here...

[. offline]

Okay. I actually sat down and studied this little dilemma here for awhile so I could help PepsiPiper and Gauntlet get along. Why is it that my first post was completely disregarded?

I'm sorry. I appreciate your third person view on the whole situation, but I had no vendetta with PepsiPiper in the first place. I'm too lazy to hold a grudge anyways.

It's no big deal. He already chose to "go out there and be aggressive" to find a significant other, nothing more I can do. I doubt you can convince anyone to change their dating decisions, let alone change anyone's mindset on any subject; it's not just PepsiPiper.

Thanks again, Jerfied.

I didn't choose anything, don't put words in my mouth.

[Gauntlet offline]

I didn't choose anything, don't put words in my mouth.

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Fine. My mistake; I viewed your response to Paige that you were trying her advice. I wasn't intending to put words in your mouth.

I apologize; will that suffice?

[. offline]

I didn't choose anything, don't put words in my mouth.

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Fine. My mistake; I viewed your response to Paige that you were trying his advice. I wasn't intending to put words in your mouth.

I apologize; will that suffice?

...and Paige is a girl. <.<

[Gauntlet offline]

I didn't choose anything, don't put words in my mouth.

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Fine. My mistake; I viewed your response to Paige that you were trying his advice. I wasn't intending to put words in your mouth.

I apologize; will that suffice?

...and Paige is a girl. <.<

Fixed, if that's all that mattered...

(My apologies, Paige)

[Jeremified offline]

This has really turned into a flame wars thread rather than a rant. Some help, mods/admins?

[Mewberries151]

This has really turned into a flame wars thread rather than a rant. Some help, mods/admins?

Alright, alright...this has really gotten a bit out of hand.

As a fair warning to all, be ware of what you post in Rant. It is very easy to type something, and have someone take it in a way you totally did not intend.

Warnings to the (main) contenders here (just a friendly suggestion ^^) :

PepsiPiper: You have created several rant subjects, most of which deal with a topic similar to this thread's. Incidentally, in at least half of them, it appears that you responded aggressively to people who were posting to help you. While I honestly sympathize with your situation (as I've been there too, only with things vice-versaed), it is quickly becoming somewhat disheartening to see you post similar rants, and then shout at others who are merely trying to help you. Please remember that Rant is primarily for posting about problems you are experiencing and for others to post back with helpful advice and suggestions.

Please remember to take these suggestions and advice (even if you would prefer not to follow them), in the spirit they are given, which is out of concern and friendship. Shouting at others who are trying to help is simply not appropriate here, as if you did not want to receive help or advice, it likely would have been better not to post in Rant in the first place.

Just keep this in mind. I do hope that your situation improves in some way soon. ^_^

Gauntlet: As was said before, this is a place for posting helpful advice and suggestions. It was also said though that, it is important to be mindful of what one is saying, and that it is exceedingly easy to type something, that can be taken in a completely different way then was intended. I understand that you were trying to offer your help and advice, however, it is always important to be mindful of others feelings and interests when posting. Fights are much more easily avoided that way. ^_^


So in short, I'm sure the biggest cause of all this was what's always at the bottom of a confrontation: A breakdown in communication; a misunderstanding.

That said, I'm going to lock this, just so that no further misunderstandings go on. ^^