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Which Season was the worst?

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The worst Season was...

Season 1
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Season 2
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Postby Tom Bone » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:18 pm

The reason I didn't choose s1 was that it was sort of magical; it was back when everything was simpler and nothing was so deep.
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Postby Taelia » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:40 pm

Okay, seasons 1 and 3 each got 12 votes each.
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Postby MY85 » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:23 pm

I shouldn't be surprised that neither TB3 or Mewberries151 have laid a finger on this thread. They would lock the thing since they love Code Lyoko more than their own lives. XD

So, some say Season 1 sucked due to lack of quality, lack of action, lack of development and being repetitive.

And others have said that Season 3 sucked due to being stale, William, lack of Sissi and overall being a filler season.

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Postby ji45ojperjfenfpen » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:25 pm

Well, I liked season 3 but it was so...short. Season one was okay in my opinion. the animation wasnt that good but honestly season 1 was the best season ever.

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Postby Mewberries151 » Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:31 am

MakeYourself wrote:I shouldn't be surprised that neither TB3 or Mewberries151 have laid a finger on this thread. They would lock the thing since they love Code Lyoko more than their own lives. XD


*sigh* That's really not all that kind to say, Rodri...

At any rate, I agree with what Tangent128 said in that, there's no particular season I liked more than the other. Each had certain qualities or episodes that I liked, and each had things that weren't so great. For example, I feel that season 1 had an "emotional depth" to it, that hasn't quite been matched in any of the other seasons (with the exception of a couple episodes in season 2, "Cold War" among them). Season 2 had much smoother and better quality CG animation, and also had some really great plot lines. Season 3, again, better graphics, and a plot that, at least for me, was much more twisty and turny than the other seasons before it.

So, for me, there's no best or worst season. I have favorite episodes, and favorite moments, but there's too much in each season for me to divide my likes into that general a view.
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Postby Jeremified » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:16 pm

Season 1 wasn't as exciting. Seasons 2 and 3 had more diversity between episodes.
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Postby Taelia » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:26 pm

Not only that, but two particular characters (Jim and Sissi) had very static, unchanging personalities. Jim was the stereotypical moronic DI of a gym teacher, and Sissi was a stereotypical brat.
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Postby ji45ojperjfenfpen » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:54 pm

True. Also Sissi was a little nicer in the later seasons more than season 1. Remember in season 1 she made Milly cry!

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Postby Taelia » Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:31 am

True that. I wanted to either slap Sissi or punch her in the jaw. :cussout:
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Postby ccbtimewiz » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:48 pm

For some reason, I liked season 1 more then 2 and 3. Though, I was very happy when season 2 came out, though season 3 came out of no where, I guess I wasn't paying attention. I have watched all the CL episodes in all the seasons, and still I think season 1 was the best. I hated season 3 I guess...to premature to the series and was a filler.
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Postby Taelia » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:36 pm

I hated Season 3 except for two certain episodes, Lyoko Minus One and Nobody in Particular.
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Postby Bootch » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:54 pm

I can't say there was a worst season.... but I did find that seasons 2 and 3 had very, very, VERY repetitive themes popping up... say the most obvious one being the specters taking over people, the polymorphs... and aelitas inability to defend herself from monsters and the schyphozoa... that really bugged me...

Other than that, I enjoyed how many things were a step up from season one, 3d graphics,vehicles, finding clever ways to get around not using return to the past...


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Postby Lyoko SA80 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:56 am

Season 3 was a most disapointing season .Wh ybecause it was slow,too short,less cliffhangers,the ever popular yumi and ulrich releationship was offical killed off,and to me it seem that there was less acxtion all together.But I hope season 4 will make up for it .Hs anyone heared about the season 2 and 3 on dvd.
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Postby DarkestSoul X21 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:58 am

I heard that the entire Season 2 set will come out by the end of the year. I haven't heard anything about Season 3 yet.
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Postby FènéethxAelita » Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:53 pm

Taelia wrote:I hated Season 3 except for two certain episodes, Lyoko Minus One and Nobody in Particular.


:umm: Hate? Sure, you didn't like it as much as the others, but hate?
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Postby Taelia » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:13 pm

Okay, okay, maybe I exaggerated.
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Postby Naton » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:37 am

Season 3.
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Postby Colinahscopy » Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:02 pm

I think season 3 was the worst because it only had 15 episodes.

Seasons 1 and 2 had 28 or so
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Postby Blueyedblonde » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:45 pm

AHH.

It's so hard to pick between 1 and 3. ><

I mean... 1 was great, it's what got me into CL. It's what started it all, and had great eps like 'Routine' and 'Swarming Attack' ...
3 made me like Sam, it made William evil, it had Aelita actually defending herself...

Ugh. I think I have to go with... 3. I liked a couple episodes, but... Well.. Total lack of Ulrich/Yumi. :pbthbb:

And Odd was all wierd during the season. Like he wasn't himself.

...That was the hardest choice of my life. :*D
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Postby Stonecreek » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:05 pm

I've delayed writing about this for a while now, but I feel a little bit of anger may spice the forum up a bit. Not so angry as to say all the seasons sucked (though compelling arguements can be made for this), but I still want to vehemently express my displeasure.

Season three was a copout, a sellout. The characters seemed lifeless and dull, and plots were stale. The new factes of the season seemed shoehorned in, not in a useful way, either. The shift to action oriented show hurt it more that I can express. Without an interesting premesis or chatracters we care about,t he show is nothing,a nd that is where I feel it is going.
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Postby FènéethxAelita » Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:23 pm

Mewberries151 wrote:
MakeYourself wrote:I shouldn't be surprised that neither TB3 or Mewberries151 have laid a finger on this thread. They would lock the thing since they love Code Lyoko more than their own lives. XD


*sigh* That's really not all that kind to say, Rodri...

At any rate, I agree with what Tangent128 said in that, there's no particular season I liked more than the other. Each had certain qualities or episodes that I liked, and each had things that weren't so great. For example, I feel that season 1 had an "emotional depth" to it, that hasn't quite been matched in any of the other seasons (with the exception of a couple episodes in season 2, "Cold War" among them). Season 2 had much smoother and better quality CG animation, and also had some really great plot lines. Season 3, again, better graphics, and a plot that, at least for me, was much more twisty and turny than the other seasons before it.

So, for me, there's no best or worst season. I have favorite episodes, and favorite moments, but there's too much in each season for me to divide my likes into that general a view.


Exactly, so if season 1 episodes had remakes, (just in Lyoko) it would be liked more.
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Postby Mewberries151 » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:15 am

Stonecreek wrote:I've delayed writing about this for a while now, but I feel a little bit of anger may spice the forum up a bit. Not so angry as to say all the seasons sucked (though compelling arguements can be made for this), but I still want to vehemently express my displeasure.

Season three was a copout, a sellout. The characters seemed lifeless and dull, and plots were stale. The new factes of the season seemed shoehorned in, not in a useful way, either. The shift to action oriented show hurt it more that I can express. Without an interesting premesis or chatracters we care about,t he show is nothing,a nd that is where I feel it is going.


Considering they billed it as being a "set-up" for season 4 though, is it really a "cop-out"? It's exceedingly hard to "set-up" a big plot line and also try and keep your storylines interesting.

I'm not going to debate you on the focus of action (and the subsequent loss of certain romantic elements ^^; ) since that's relatively true, but calling it a "sell out" when the season was never really intended to have a hugely groundbreaking premise nor grand plotline seems a little...eh, unfair.

Season 3 was a "prelude" so to speak, geared mainly towards setting XANA's big plan in motion and gaining him a new recruit. It might also have been setting up a certain couple of relationships up for something big, but that remains to be seen at the moment.

At any rate, I'm not sure if it's "anger" this forum really needs to be "spiced up". Friendly, civilized debate sure, but we all know where anger itself leads, so... ^^;
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Postby Stonecreek » Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:59 am

Mewberries151 wrote:
Stonecreek wrote:I've delayed writing about this for a while now, but I feel a little bit of anger may spice the forum up a bit. Not so angry as to say all the seasons sucked (though compelling arguements can be made for this), but I still want to vehemently express my displeasure.

Season three was a copout, a sellout. The characters seemed lifeless and dull, and plots were stale. The new factes of the season seemed shoehorned in, not in a useful way, either. The shift to action oriented show hurt it more that I can express. Without an interesting premesis or chatracters we care about,t he show is nothing,a nd that is where I feel it is going.


Considering they billed it as being a "set-up" for season 4 though, is it really a "cop-out"? It's exceedingly hard to "set-up" a big plot line and also try and keep your storylines interesting.

I'm not going to debate you on the focus of action (and the subsequent loss of certain romantic elements ^^; ) since that's relatively true, but calling it a "sell out" when the season was never really intended to have a hugely groundbreaking premise nor grand plotline seems a little...eh, unfair.

Season 3 was a "prelude" so to speak, geared mainly towards setting XANA's big plan in motion and gaining him a new recruit. It might also have been setting up a certain couple of relationships up for something big, but that remains to be seen at the moment.

At any rate, I'm not sure if it's "anger" this forum really needs to be "spiced up". Friendly, civilized debate sure, but we all know where anger itself leads, so... ^^;


I understand all that, but can you also see where my points are coming from? The way in which William joined the gang, and then turned eveil, were very transparent. The so-called drama-building leading to S3 finale held none for me, becuase the previous episodes of the season were less captivating than the fare in S1and S2. The flat plotlines and out-of-the-blue new powers made the show a bit lower-grade, IMO.

And to a person like me who believes the characters are the cruxt of a show, seeing them suddenly become charicatures of themselves was sad. It was liek the writers were on auto-pilot for the season, and theyprobably are saving their good stuff for S4. But it is still inexcusable to half-*ss a job, which is what they did with character development this season. It was all wiped away when William, the onyl dynamic character all season, reverted back to a bad guy role. The main cast was static throughout. Nothing major in their perosnalities changed, to the point it seemd their personalities were grafted on.

We had set expectations for S3, considering the wait we went through. Perhaps they were too high, too unreasonable But the truth of the matter is, season three did not deliver the goods we are used to.
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Postby FènéethxAelita » Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:33 am

It's as if noone considered the existance of Code: XANA, it was the most important detail of season 3. I agree with most of the comment, though.
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Postby Mewberries151 » Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:30 pm

Stonecreek wrote:I understand all that, but can you also see where my points are coming from? The way in which William joined the gang, and then turned eveil, were very transparent. The so-called drama-building leading to S3 finale held none for me, becuase the previous episodes of the season were less captivating than the fare in S1and S2. The flat plotlines and out-of-the-blue new powers made the show a bit lower-grade, IMO.


I can see where your points are coming from, but I suppose I'm just more gullible in this case. I didn't truly foresee William's "turning evil" until the moment the Scyphozoa showed up (and then it was a case of, "Oooo, he's going to get it now" then, "Ha, I knew it all along"). Sure I debated and wondered whether or not the writers were going to actually go through with it, but until that moment I wasn't 100% sure. So in that respect, it wasn't transparent for me. Perhaps it was for you, but it wasn't for me.

As for drama-building, I was on the edge of my seat in both "The Pretender" and "Final Round" in particular. Again, I don't know if the same is to be said for you, and I will agree that S1 and S2 had a few more nailbiters in them (however, considering they were both at least 10 episodes longer, this seems an unfair comparison).

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "out of the blue powers", unless of course you mean XANA's in which case his powers have always been relatively "out of the blue". As for "flat plotlines", this is truly in the eye of the beholder so far as I'm concerned, citing both "The Pretender" and "Final Round" again.

Stonecreek wrote:And to a person like me who believes the characters are the cruxt of a show, seeing them suddenly become charicatures of themselves was sad. It was liek the writers were on auto-pilot for the season, and theyprobably are saving their good stuff for S4. But it is still inexcusable to half-*ss a job, which is what they did with character development this season. It was all wiped away when William, the onyl dynamic character all season, reverted back to a bad guy role. The main cast was static throughout. Nothing major in their perosnalities changed, to the point it seemd their personalities were grafted on.


Kindly mind the swearing please. ^^;

At any rate, so far as William being a "dynamic character all season and reverting back to a bad guy role", all I can say is that Avatar pulled the same gimmick and I don't see them getting the same sort of flack. Having an antagonist go from bad, to slightly good, back to bad again, is not what I'd call a "poor plot job". It's a well-known plot device, and certainly an oldie but goodie. I'm certainly not going to hold that against season 3, as I enjoyed it as a plot twist, and didn't find it poorly written at all, especially considering they kept me guessing over it, right up to the last second.

As for the main cast being "static"...I'd have to say that Yumi and Ulrich were anything but, and Odd had some interesting developments in the last few episodes as well.

Stonecreek wrote:We had set expectations for S3, considering the wait we went through. Perhaps they were too high, too unreasonable But the truth of the matter is, season three did not deliver the goods we are used to.


Again, this seems opinion to me. I was pleased with season 3. For the length that it was, and the task it was set to (setting up season 4 ) it delivered some very interesting and certainly some amusing moments throughout it's 15 episode run. I'm sure that everyone would agree that "Lyoko Minus 1" completely shocked them (whether they watched it in French first, or not).

However, this is just my two cents. ^^
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