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Postby Astro-Xana » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:49 pm

Any idea that a person comes up with (including any of the immensly intelligent ideas that are made in a Code Lyoko topic such as the Lyoko Tech Discussion Topic), they all contain spiritual essence.

I'm going to give an example of a certain idea (not mine) but is a very cool idea that contains very cool essence. The idea was involving the hub (red vortex) in which that the Creepers might be able to travel through this vortex because we got to see a Creeper make a warping appearance in "Tidal Wave." Obviously an aknowledgable idea since not only is it reasonable, but also because it contains very cool essence.

But if a certain person were to criticize this idea, then that person does not even know the essence of that idea. People who do not know essence are like zombies that horrify those who do know essence with their criticism. People who do know essence though are spiritually alive and sensitive and have a spiritual gift. But when faced with people who do not know essence, it's as if facing spiritual death itself and these programs "or zombies" that feed off of the spiritual life of those who do know essence. These people feed off of the very life force of those who do know essence just by simply criticizing and not caring and not even knowing the essence of the ideas that these people who do know essence came up with. Thus abandoning these ideas and all their essence to a dark cold realm.

Now don't forget, everything in this world contains essence, including ideas (especially Code Lyoko itself which has a very powerful essence). When people who do know essence come up with Code Lyoko ideas that contain very cool essence, to criticize such ideas is like criticizing the very show itself and all its essence and would just be like saying to these people who do know the essence of the show and wish to be spiritually close to the show and all its essence by making up ideas (INCLUDING revealing ideas that came true), it would be like saying to these people that they are nothing and have absolutely nothing special at all with the very essence of the show. Especially if the ideas of these people actually come true as predictions/ideas should be considered as individuals as they all contain essence.

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Me pointing out ideas that came true is me expressing my spiritual connection with the show and all its essence and when an idea of mine has come true in Code Lyoko, I feel a very special energy of being spiritually connected with the show. When I saw the Scyphozoa in this episode heading towards the top opening in Carthage, my heart was beating fast due to me being anxious as to wondering if my idea coming true (which it did). And when it did come true, I felt very spiritually connected with the show and all its essence.

Now when you criticize my ideas that came true in Code Lyoko such as this person did, not only do you turn down Code Lyoko and all its essence, but you also turn down and destroy my feeling of spiritual connection with the show. You have absolutely no idea how seriously I feel about Code Lyoko and its essence. And to criticize any of my ideas that came true, you will have me wanting to destroy you in return and demanding answers as to how people can be so insensitive about my ideas that come true and demanding to know how these people do not feel the same spiritual connection with the show like I do if I were to reveal upon these people any of my ideas that came true.

Me pointing out any of my ideas in Code Lyoko that came true is me opening up a whole new spiritual realm that these people choose not to enter, rather to abandon and destroy with criticism.

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Postby Gauntlet » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:06 am

First, you have to realize, though, that people will put you down in all areas of life. Who's fault is it if you take it personally? Your fault. It's your fault for allowing them to destroy your "spiritual essence". They too have an obligation to watch their tongues, but you have a more important one: maintaining your mental and emotional health. You can't educate people to be nice, so chances are, you'll only get more upset when you try to educate them otherwise.

Secondly, criticism and attacks are different. Criticism is when you find a way to compliment the person's work, either by suggestions, or submitting a personal review on the subject that will make them consider their work in a different light. An attack is when someone attacks you as a person, and not the subject at hand, which is reason to get upset, but not enough to let it become a personal detriment.

There's no other way to put it. You have to mold yourself around other people if they can't change. If it's too much, you can leave, speak to a moderator, or take some time for introspection and read over your things. People here are generally very nice. Are you sure it's not...you?
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Postby Mewberries151 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:27 am

Look Astro-XANA, I'm sorry that people just aren't into your ideas about Code Lyoko, but unfortunately that is just something that happens on a public forum. People express their ideas all the time, and sometimes they're liked and sometimes they aren't. It's the same chance everyone takes when they sign up and then post their ideas.

However, that does not give you the right to hold your ideas on a podium high above anyone else's and make people feel bad when they don't like your ideas. Talking to them like they're some "inferior being", like you have in this post, when they simply disagree with your idea is not acceptable behavior.

Furthermore, if you're trying to include me in your rant about "people choosing not to enter into your realm of thought", what I was posting at you for was because you had, yet again, posted ideas for the show and episodes <u>in the wrong thread</u>. That's spamming and that's against the rules, and as an Admin I have to enforce those rules and remind people who break the rules that they have done so. I am not picking on you, nor am I trying to "stifle your creativity". I, as well as the other Admins and Mods, am trying to make this forum fun for everyone and by continually breaking the rules, you hinder that.

What's more, you are still spamming by having half your rant post (and several other posts you've made before) be something else you posted in another thread on this very forum. That is also spam and needs to stop. Rephrase or reiterate yourself if you must, but copying and pasting the same thing over and over again on different threads on the same forum is spam.

Please kindly keep all this in mind. I am not trying to be mean, nor am I trying to attack you, or even criticize your ideas. I am simply saying that the places you post them, and the way in which you are talking about people who simply don't like your ideas for whatever reason, is just not acceptable.
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Postby JesusFreak » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:42 am

AX, That's Just silly. If someone criticizes your ideas, they are NOT attacking CL itself. Ms. Mewberries is right. You refer to The People who are not only entitled to express their opinion, but have a right to do so who disagree with your ideas as zombies because you claim they don't understand them. That's just insulting. You don't go around calling people subhuman just because they can't keep up with a million Parentheses, or for disagreeing with you, or for ANYTHING!!! Now don't get me wrong, some of your ideas are not only great, but feasible as well (case in point: your William using Code: Earth to travel to Good ol' Terra) and I apologize if I sound mean, but that's just something that makes me irate.
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Postby Tekirai » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:46 pm

Your theories =/= Code Lyoko itself.

You are not 'spiritually connected' to Code Lyoko.

It is an ANIMATED TELEVISION PROGRAMME, NOT a time controlling deity. And NEITHER are YOU. Get all that through your head first. It'll make a TON of difference.

Thinking up theories is perfectly FINE. But FORCE-FEEDING them to other people and trying to show that you are ALWAYS right is NOT. If you want to massage your ego, go to one of those online compliment generators or something and click the button all night. You DID have enough free time to mega-refresh Misha's thead to prove one of your theories again, after all. (Yes, I'm bringing this up now. But it was the first time you took your stupid theories OUTSIDE CL, and that's when I put my foot down.)

Imagine me constantly trying to prove that CL will have giant robots and animal mascots near the end of the series and pointing out thousands of non-existant hints that it will happen. That's basically what you're doing to us, and it's not helping you at all.

I may be overracting when I say this, but due to past experiences... you might not realise you're doing this. Actually, you probably really don't. If you find yourself wondering 'why are they saying these things, I haven't done anything wrong' then show some empathy and read over your past posts. You might understand then.

You've hurt your credibility enough by posting things like this. Try to understand how we feel about this before it all crashes down on you at once when other people see this thread. You CAN fix this, but at this rate? You're never going to be acknowledged around here OR at TV.com.
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Postby Overcaffeinated Sloth » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:20 pm

Tekirai wrote:Thinking up theories is perfectly FINE. But FORCE-FEEDING them to other people and trying to show that you are ALWAYS right is NOT.


Agreed. You are not a unique and beautiful snowflake, AX. I can't tell you HOW many times my theories have matched a XANA attack, because it happens to everyone. But there is no such thing as chanelling the show, because they were written months and months ago.

And be careful who you force-feed. They might just force-feed you back.

Look, maybe you're stressed over something in real life. Might I suggest taking a break from Lyoko Freak for a while? Maybe a week off the computer would do you some good, and you can get your head straigtened out.

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Postby Astro-Xana » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:21 pm

My problem in life is that I am overly sensitive to things and take the slightest things in life too far (whether they be good things or bad things). In other words, since Code Lyoko has a good essence (feel) to it, it's as if to me Code Lyoko is a show that came from the afterlife (heaven) and is technically like a show God produced himself (by obviously giving ideas to people [the creators of the show] on this planet in creating this show).

I feel as though God himself has made this show in order for me to gain power from the sacred spiritual essence of the show in order for me to have power and to conquer bad things in my life (including criticism). But not only that, God technically made this show for me to feel spiritual power from the very essence of the show in order for me to come up with ideas as well (which are ideas that are very sacred to me).

Now Angelbolt, you said that many of your ideas in Code Lyoko have come true. If that's so, then that would mean you are spiritually connected to the show as well (sort of like me) and are a special unique individual. Especially if they are random ideas, if random ideas were to come true, that would definitely show spiritual connection with the show.

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Postby Overcaffeinated Sloth » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:00 pm

Astronomical X.A.N.A. wrote:Now Angelbolt, you said that many of your ideas in Code Lyoko have come true. If that's so, then that would mean you are spiritually connected to the show as well (sort of like me) and are a special unique individual. Especially if they are random ideas, if random ideas were to come true, that would definitely show spiritual connection with the show.


Dude, that's my point. My muse, as I call it, is through fanfiction, and it happened when I was younger. I have hundreds of chapters and snippets I wrote, and they're slowly coming true,, much to my annoyance. Aelita's new suit was devastatingly similar to a lyoko suit I designed, but Had to ditech and remodel to aviod copyright infringement.

But admittedly, most people on here can do that. You'd be surprizzed. Most people just don't like to talk about it though.

Seriously, though. CL didn't come from the afterlife. CL came from France. It's the writer's creation; if you sense it ligning up with your own timeline, then you and thee writers just have similar tastes, that's all. It's nothing spiritual.

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Postby JesusFreak » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:21 pm

CL didn't come from the afterlife. CL came from France.


Right on target ma'am. Spiritual Connections? Dude, Anything of the spirit comes from one of two places. What exactly is "yours" now?
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Postby MY85 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:23 pm

Astronomical X.A.N.A. wrote:I feel as though God himself has made this show in order for me to gain power from the sacred spiritual essence of the show in order for me to have power and to conquer bad things in my life (including criticism). But not only that, God technically made this show for me to feel spiritual power from the very essence of the show in order for me to come up with ideas as well (which are ideas that are very sacred to me).

o.O Dear Lord... this kind of things are the reasons why I ignore AX.
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Postby Overcaffeinated Sloth » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:33 pm

Rodri, that's completely innapropriate and not making anything any bettter.

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Postby MY85 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:42 pm

But it's kind of why I can't take him seriosuly.

I bothered to read a few of his CL theories and whatnot. If he scores, he scores. Are we supposed to celebrate his success or something? Not only he words BS towards BS, but he also shoves it into somebody's face and would like people like you to kiss his *ss and boost his ego.

The spiritual connection thing he mentions is rather pathetic, to say the least.
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Postby . » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:28 pm

MakeYourself85 wrote:The spiritual connection thing he mentions is rather pathetic, to say the least.


Quoted for the blunt truth. 8)

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Postby Astro-Xana » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:31 pm

MakeYourself85 wrote:But it's kind of why I can't take him seriosuly.

I bothered to read a few of his CL theories and whatnot. If he scores, he scores. Are we supposed to celebrate his success or something? Not only he words BS towards BS, but he also shoves it into somebody's face and would like people like you to kiss his *ss and boost his ego.

The spiritual connection thing he mentions is rather pathetic, to say the least.

I introduce ideas of mine that came true because I cannot keep the excitement to myself. I would practically have to utterly destroy my interest and spiritual connection with the show in order for me to not feel any excitement whatsoever about any of my ideas that came true. Criticizing any of my ideas that came true is just like saying to me that I shouldn't feel excited at all about those ideas and should consider them useless.

The feeling of excitement and spiritual connection with the show that I feel when one of my ideas comes true is too powerful and overwhelming in that I have to express these ideas of mine that came true just like expressing a beautiful piece of artwork that has been done. Because to me, my predictions are sacred works of art.

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Postby Tekirai » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:26 pm

Astronomical X.A.N.A. wrote:Because to me, my predictions are sacred works of art.


I wrote:It is an ANIMATED TELEVISION PROGRAMME, NOT a time controlling deity. And NEITHER are YOU.


I can't tell if you're ignoring me, pretending I didn't post or just didn't see what I'm trying to say. I think its really pathetic of you if it's one of the first two. If not, bold text does wonders. ^

I think you'd got the word 'criticism' confused. To criticise is to display your opinion of something and to offer strict but sound advice for the creator of the piece. People are saying you should stop forcing your ideas down their throats. This is NOT criticism. They're telling you to think about how you should display your ideas in a way that doesn't rub people the wrong way or tick them off. If you think your theories are great, that's perfectly fine. Some people might agree with you there. But when people are clearly hinting they're not happy with the way you're displaying them, take it like a human being and tell them you're sorry for offending them and try to put it in another way. Be accepting and more people will respect you.

I hope you're reading these posts I'm making. I put lots of work into them, just as you do with your theories. If you have a problem with any of it, say so. I'll put it in another way so it doesn't offend you. Because that is how you deliver in a respectable and managable way. :P
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Postby Overcaffeinated Sloth » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:36 pm

Guys, come on now. This isn't really the place to shoot off at him.

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Postby Astro-Xana » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:37 pm

Now just to let you know, when I showed my ideas in other topics for attention, I was always assuming that people would think that it's all cool and I'm just expressing myself and that if people didn't want to read my ideas, that they would not get annoyed at all and could just simply scroll down past my ideas and not criticize me at all. It was as if I was expecting people to read my mind in knowing that I am not trying to be annoying and that I am just being cool expressing my ideas.

So, yeah, from now on I'll just introduce whatever ideas of mine that came true in the episode ideas topic including whatever other ideas that I may come up with. And as for the non-constructive criticism (attacking), I do not want any of that if I were to introduce any of my ideas that came true in the episode discussion topic because there is no reason for it as I have introduced my ideas in the proper topic.

Finally, if people do not attack my ideas and just be cool with my ideas, I will be cool as well. Also, I am not looking for any means of boosting my ego. If someone were to give a response that doesn't show excitement that my ideas came true and is instead a response that just shows calm positive feedback towards my ideas (such as "that was a good idea" instead of "WOW, I CAN"T BELIEVE YOUR IDEA CAME TRUE"), then that would be perfectly fine.

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Postby Tekirai » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:24 pm

We're starting to get somewhere now. The internet can be a harsh place, so you WILL get bad comments at some point. Try to go easy and keep cool when it happens and you'll be fine. Although I'd tone down on on being spiritually connected with the show and keep that to yourself. You don't want to be flamed or anything, right? :3

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That wasn't at me... right? o.0;
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Postby . » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:41 pm

Astronomical X.A.N.A. wrote:Now just to let you know, when I showed my ideas in other topics for attention, I was always assuming that people would think that it's all cool and I'm just expressing myself and that if people didn't want to read my ideas, that they would not get annoyed at all and could just simply scroll down past my ideas and not criticize me at all. It was as if I was expecting people to read my mind in knowing that I am not trying to be annoying and that I am just being cool expressing my ideas.

So, yeah, from now on I'll just introduce whatever ideas of mine that came true in the episode ideas topic including whatever other ideas that I may come up with. And as for the non-constructive criticism (attacking), I do not want any of that if I were to introduce any of my ideas that came true in the episode discussion topic because there is no reason for it as I have introduced my ideas in the proper topic.

Finally, if people do not attack my ideas and just be cool with my ideas, I will be cool as well. Also, I am not looking for any means of boosting my ego. If someone were to give a response that doesn't show excitement that my ideas came true and is instead a response that just shows calm positive feedback towards my ideas (such as "that was a good idea" instead of "WOW, I CAN"T BELIEVE YOUR IDEA CAME TRUE"), then that would be perfectly fine.


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Postby Astro-Xana » Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:35 am

I think I have my head finally straightened out once and for all. All I needed was just to talk out my problems and gain some more in-depth understanding.

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Postby Overcaffeinated Sloth » Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:53 pm

Glad you did, AX!

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Postby JesusFreak » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:46 pm

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Postby Lyoko Wario » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:19 pm

Astro, I have to point a couple of things out. First off, I am going to go against the mold here and say that I rather appreciate your love and connection to the show. I admit that I am not a very "spiritual" type of person, under general circumstances, but your emotional bond with CL and your patent love and devotion to it are beautiful things that prove that you are a very strong person. I guess the way you worded it kind of made you sound like a bit of a... well, a loon, but I re-read your comment and I think I understand the main gist of what you're trying to say. I can relate to your feelings (though I would have used totally different words; I regard CL as something great made by great people with no God directly involved) and salute your passion and sincerity. Nothing you said is by any means pathetic.

However, I will tell you that you were overly hurt by a difference of opinion that was really not that bad. I'm sure all of us here know how much it hurts to see something that we like maligned, and I think the only original thought I can offer to you here is to realize that the love (for something) of a few loyal and loving fans is stronger than the hate of many people who dislike the same thing, simply because the people that like it understand it more and are more "in tune" with in that the people who don't, because they'd rather ignore it and don't care to understand it. There are many people here who love CL, though clearly some more than others, and I don't think anyone who joined this forum in the first place ever wanted to insult the show, or you, for that matter. Try to relax a little regarding differences of opion, but by no means abandon your passion.
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Postby Kamekai » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:31 pm

o_O so... much... text... head... spinning... spiritual esse-wha? R you kidding me? Look, now you just made me abbreviate a word for the first time in my entire life. I don't know if I should be amazed or disgusted. I am glad to see you're getting things straitened out in the vast uniqueness that is your mind, AX. And Angelbolty dear, to that "written months ago" statement, It could hypothetically happen if you believe in the corruption that is today's ignorant, politically correct scientific theories. In reality, man knows nothing. Women either. :*D For all we know a monkey could suddenly sprout out of my left earlobe. I'll let you know if that ever happens, guys, needless to say.
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Postby Tekirai » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:41 pm

Cool it, Kamekai. I don't think that post helped anyone except your post count. Astro-XANA can believe in whatever he wants, no matter how ridiculous it may seem to you. IMO, this topic has pretty much filled its purpose anyway. All that's left is more pointless posts and it might upset Astro-XANA even more. [size=0]Like Kamekai's. That was pretty unecessary... :\[/size]

Maybe this should be locked? Might be safer... >.>
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