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What would probably happen in a Season 5?

Postby Tangent128 » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:55 pm

While the show is (as far as we know) over, many fanfic authors have already continued the story in their own ways. I'm not knocking them; many of the stories are quite entertaining. Nonetheless, I highly doubt that a Season 5 would reveal XANA to be, as JesusFreak put it, "High Ultimate Technor of the Lyokan Empire".

Thus this discussion. If there was a Season Five, what could we predict to actually have a chance of happening in the show?

Mind you, this is meant to be a conservative discussion. While one might like to predict that a sector-long serpant monster would appear (and given the Kolossus, it wouldn't be out of place), there is no evidence in the show to support that. While the writers have the luxury of making up what they please, us analysts don't. ;)

So, a couple points I've come up with:
    So all the Replikas were destroyed. Big whoop. Note that Lyoko's destruction didn't do a thing to the Supercalculator- why should we believe that the computers behind the Replikas were destroyed?
      *And if XANA's not dead, it wouldn't be fair for Franz to be. And let's face it- people in Code Lyoko are not good at dying when they're supposed to.

    *If XANA's gone for good, then the next-best plot hook is Project Carthage. Given how little we know, it's hard to tell how they'd fit in to the story at the moment.
      *As far as we can tell, they have no idea about Lyoko. Thus, to be decent villains, they'd need to be brought into contact with the group somehow. Best methods I can think of:
        *They discover the Replika computers (The only plausible explanation I can have for their all being abandoned would be an active coverup by XANA. And it's hard to conceal a robot army when you're dead.)

        *Aelita remembers that she has two parents, and begins inquiring into Antea's fate.

        *Something involving that girl from Iceland.


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Postby Kamekai » Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:50 am

*Updated*

For starters, I've come up with a good way to keep the main plot of the story while introducing completely new elements. (and characters.) Basically it would start off with a couple of kids exploring, and finding a certain abandoned factory. ;) The kids had all heard from their parents about the unexplainable disappearance of a strange group of kids, but any official records (i.e. birth certificate, etc.) had simply disappeared without a trace. (obviously, a future setting.) It remains a mystery to this day. (And a great Kadic ghost story.)

Upon exploring the factory, they find a parcel of papers, ranging in date from the late 1980's to 2007. The parcel would contain both the diaries and notes of Franz Hopper and Jeremie Belpois. The kids, upon further investigation, find that both people had suddenly disappeared from the Kadic scene. The season would basically cover most of the Project Carthage affair, and eventually to the reason as to the original gang's disappearance. Bladdabladdablah, etc. etc. etc. Only difference is, the plot would change 2 or 3 times in-season, instead of staying completely the same as in Moonscoop's practice. >_>

See, this was the original plot for my fanfic, "The Franz-Hopper Effect," but I feel that if I start before I get most of it worked out, I'll suffer a writer's block and fail to deliver. ._. Although, I have a few articles written out, such as some of both Franz and Jeremie's notes and diaries, and both a public and "official" report on the disappearance of the gang.
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Postby JesusFreak » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:27 am

What if Xana was being controlled? Think about it, in S3 it used many tactics he should of used all along. in one otherwise forgettable episode, he made the Digital Sea rise. Why the heck didn't he do that before? In Guided Missle, It coulda fired randomly, causing much destruction, with it's plane and still would of won. What if whoever was bringing this program to bear wanted to simply take the kids outta the picture? Xana just wanted to take over the world, and he could do that with all the casualties.
What if this group had another PC supercomputer? what if they were using Xana as an observer to create other scanners?



What if Project Carthage still exsists, and that's the reason for Xana's stupider attacks?


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Postby CustomMagnum » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:17 am

JesusFreak wrote:What if Xana was being controlled? Think about it, in S3 it used many tactics he should of used all along. in one otherwise forgettable episode, he made the Digital Sea rise. Why the heck didn't he do that before? In Guided Missle, It coulda fired randomly, causing much destruction, with it's plane and still would of won. What if whoever was bringing this program to bear wanted to simply take the kids outta the picture? Xana just wanted to take over the world, and he could do that with all the casualties.
What if this group had another PC supercomputer? what if they were using Xana as an observer to create other scanners?



What if Project Carthage still exsists, and that's the reason for Xana's stupider attacks?


*Ideas bounced offa Tangent


Glad I'm not the only one who believes that there might have someone behind XANA, either from the beginning or since it escaped at the end of Season 02.

Anyway, most of the stuff that I'm thinking might be good plotwise to happen in a Season 05 (or Season 05 fic) isn't likely to be stuff that'd actually be allowed on the show, unfortunately. Plus would spoil those fanfics my brain seems to actually be generating for once.
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Postby Carth » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:46 am

Judging from the way S4 ended, it looks like the Gang is willing to put Lyoko behind them. They'd just keep it their little secret, live as normal people for the rest of their lives, and just smile and wave if that old, abandoned factory is ever bulldozed to make room for condos.

...but soon enough, unsolved elements come back and bite them in the butt, such as Aelita's status as a human, and Project Carthage. XANA was built to stop Project Carthage. Now that he is gone...what will this Project Carthage do? Is it a threat to the world? Does the old gang have to go back to Lyoko, in order to stop them? Do they...want to?

Throw in a false XANA/Franz death, Antea, and whatever other unsolved mysteries there are, and you've got yourself a S5. :D
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Postby Tangent128 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:58 pm

Precisely. When you look closely, the ending really left a lot open. XANA's been dealt a blow, but may well still exist in the supercomputers (Some LTTing will need to be done to determine if the Replikas could be rebuilt easily). Franz/Waldo is thought to be dead after giving up fatal amounts of energy- that describes the beginning of S3 as well...

Plus, if the plot needs continuing, the characters are helpless to resist. Fighting the plot ends badly.
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Postby CustomMagnum » Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:56 pm

Tangent128 wrote:Precisely. When you look closely, the ending really left a lot open. XANA's been dealt a blow, but may well still exist in the supercomputers (Some LTTing will need to be done to determine if the Replikas could be rebuilt easily). Franz/Waldo is thought to be dead after giving up fatal amounts of energy- that describes the beginning of S3 as well...

Plus, if the plot needs continuing, the characters are helpless to resist. Fighting the plot ends badly.


Actually, I thought XANA's monsters ended up exploding him after he finished giving them the energy. He did explode immediately after getting shot at, so it's not really the same situation as the beginning of Season 3.

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Postby Kamekai » Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:47 pm

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Postby Taelia » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:06 pm

I personally think the "new characters" stuff is all just a poorly-made joke. What's CL without the gang we like?
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Postby Cassius335 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:47 am

Well, what if Jeremie's Sperm Attack didn't kill XANA, but fractured it, resulting in multiple XANA's, warrring with the kids and each other? But once a way is found of telling the XANA's apart, Jeremie discovers there has always been at least two... and one of them is Franz Hopper (or rather, what's left of him...)
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Postby JesusFreak » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:05 pm

Additionally, i thin odd needs to learn how to play a wacky or classic instrument, like a Banjo.
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Postby Taelia » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:58 pm

Guys, enough already! Show's over! We can't do anything about it!
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Postby Overcaffeinated Sloth » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:19 pm

Calm down, Taelia. we can still express our views. if you don't want to see it, then just don't look at the thread, okay?

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Postby Taelia » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:25 pm

Alright. I'll calm down.

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There are far too many unanswered questions. Whatever happened to Sissi's mother? We have not heard much about Sissi's past. I really wish to know.
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Postby JesusFreak » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:12 pm

If Sissi joins the grou pfor good, and the writers stick to the gang or their kids, we could see Sissi as a Lyoko Warrior.


It would be pretty dang hard to avoid her now that she's a "friend".
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Postby Taelia » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:03 pm

Yeah. Maybe she'll start romancing with Odd now that she accepts Ulrich and Yumi being a couple. :)
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Postby JesusFreak » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:55 pm

Taelia wrote:Yeah. Maybe she'll start romancing with Odd now that she accepts Ulrich and Yumi being a couple. :)


Honestly, that could go either way. I would prefer the writers to forget OxSi if it means a hack-job soap opera thing with sarcasm dripping from every word in the subplot.



I think Sissi would have some sort of melee weapon that could be used as a ranged one too. That way, you have two ranged (Odd, Aelita), two intermediate (Yumi, Sissi), and two melee (Ulrich, William)
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Postby Taelia » Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:48 pm

A bow is such a weapon. Sissi's could also be used as a double-sided sword.
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Postby JesusFreak » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:08 pm

Dunno...Odd has arrows. Maybe if the bow shot LIGHTNING....
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Postby Taelia » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:17 pm

Nah. Lightning is Jim's Lyoko power.
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Postby JesusFreak » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:27 pm

...

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How about...flaming Kanrelots?

As a power...maybe....being able to talk to monsters?
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Postby Tangent128 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:58 pm

It depends on how events go.

Say, for instance, Project Carthage figures out where Waldo went, as well as the kids' involvement, then come after them. As such, Jeremie and the Lyoko Warriors flee to a World Without Danger. (Relax, Jeremie makes a simulation bubble so we don't have to see him in 3D. ;) )

They'd likely leave Sissi in the dark for her own protection. (Not sure what they'd do with William...)
BUT! Sissi would probably then begin inquiring on her own as to what is going on. She could end up finding out pieces of what's happening, then try to manipulate things in the real world to help out. (With Herb's aid... Nicholas would probably be left fishing in the moonlight.)

If anybody wants to fanfic that, be my guest! (Just tell me first...)
Bonus points for a scene like this: ; )
MIB1: (at console, with password screen) ...Scipio? Hannibal? Waldorox? Password1?
MIB2: Forget it, we'll probably never guess that Belpois kid's password. Our time's better spent finding where he went.
(They leave)
Sissi: (sneaks in) Hmm? This is Jeremie's?
Sissi types: AELITA
Console: Access granted!
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Postby Sciron » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:00 pm

Seeing Sissi as a Lyoko Warrior would just be...freaky...but that's just me.

The main objective of a S5 would probably trying to find Franz Hopper. Sure, he was "destroyed", but doesn't that mean that his data bits were just scattered? (I don't mean to start a debate with that.) I have no idea what the "evil" side would be...but it would probably be that XANA would be back...somehow.

Also...it seems that there would be a revival of UxY, but then William will come in again and ruin everything. (He technically doesn't know what Yumi told Ulrich. >.>)

I hope to see OxS sometime. ;) (Or WxS, I really don't know. There was that one scene from Marabounta, but that was really it.)

There are a multitude of things that can happen, some of which I've seen here and on other forums. But in guesswork, you really need to draw the line between what you KNOW is possible, what you THINK is possible, what you WANT to happen...and what is totally bogus imagination that is not possible in any aspect. :P
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Postby Kamekai » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:09 pm

I'm for the flaming Kankrelots. (Thx, 5CR. *n00bish fan moment.*) =D
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Postby JesusFreak » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:07 am

kamekai wrote:I'm for the flaming Kangrelots. =D



Really? Cool!


Here's another idea....The old monsters as support units. Maybe one of Xana's replikas was just extremely damaged, but is still running. Maybe there's a group of monsters (nothing heavy. Just a few Hornets, Kankrelots, and maybe a krabe or two) standing frozen because of their master's demise. What if Aelita (or whoever takes her place) somehow scans them and sends their data to Jeremie (or Jeremie-wannabe). Whenever things get dicey, the operator can then send in the monsters (but only the exact same amount of those scanned) and control them.


Sounds like a bad fanfic, now that I look at it.
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