Hillary gave up (election+general politics thread as well)

[JesusFreak offline]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/primary_rdp

[Tangent128 offline]

She's probably annoyed about the increasingly obvious evitability of her campaign.

Haven't heard much about McCain lately.

Anyways, I'm starting to wonder about VP choices. I'd love to see a McCain-Huckabee ticket. Obama-Clinton (or vice-versa) would reek of political games, though.

[Taelia offline]

I'm more of a McCain supprter (Republicans rule!), and I really despise Barack Obama becuase of his views and his recent controversies.

[Nightsabre offline]

I'm more of a McCain supprter (Republicans rule!), and I really despise Barack Obama becuase of his views and his recent controversies.

Agreed, also Tangent to answer your question. McCain doesn't need to do much now that he has secured his spot on the ballot. I personally would rather Hillary take the Primaries since I like Taelia don't agree with Obama's opinion of the changing world and nation. But when it comes down to the wire I have to go with my party so I'll be voting McCain in November.

[Taelia offline]

Same here.

Obama has many different controversies that aren't befitting of a President, such as the anti-USA statements made by his former pastor and him being a part of a black separatism march in 1995.

[Kamekai offline]

Independent Party ftw.


Man, I've given up on this race. The most powerful country in the world, and these are the guys we can find to lead it. >.< I've gotten in some heated political debates with both family and friend, the former of which having absolutely no idea what they are talking about.


But I'll admit, Hillary needs to gtfo.

[DeadViolet offline]

I'm independent party myself.
Since both Hilary and Barack support abortion, I don't want to go against my religous views by voting for either. Plus I'm also Anti-War and gun control, I dunno where that fits in. So I'm independent.

Off-topic:
But Ron Paul wanted to legalize Marijuana.

Point:
Hilary SUX.

[TrevT93 offline]

I'm more of a McCain supprter (Republicans rule!), and I really despise Barack Obama becuase of his views and his recent controversies.

Thank goodness there are a few more out there (yep, I'm one as well). And I'm glad McCain is sitting in the background doing nothing right now. It's what he should be doing since the dems are still fighting it out, and if he does nothing he can't be criticized. Since Clinton (ugh...) and Obama are snipin at each other, then some dems fed up with the fighting are going to vote for him.

Oh yeah, one time at the National Constitution Center, McCain showed up for a visit, and since my mom was in the media then and connected to the station that was hosting his speech I met him backstage. He was a really nice person to talk to.

To think I might've shaken hands with the next US president and I thought nothing of it then...

[Tangent128 offline]

Wow! The most notable politican I've met would be Rob Wittman. Not exactly a household name.

[Taelia offline]

Thank goodness there are a few more out there (yep, I'm one as well). And I'm glad McCain is sitting in the background doing nothing right now. It's what he should be doing since the dems are still fighting it out, and if he does nothing he can't be criticized. Since Clinton (ugh...) and Obama are snipin at each other, then some dems fed up with the fighting are going to vote for him.

Oh yeah, one time at the National Constitution Center, McCain showed up for a visit, and since my mom was in the media then and connected to the station that was hosting his speech I met him backstage. He was a really nice person to talk to.

To think I might've shaken hands with the next US president and I thought nothing of it then...

Yeah. McCain fought in the Vietnam Conflict, and his wife Cindy is a bombshell. If Hillary won, the very order of the executive branch would fall apart (although I'm a supporter of women's equal rights)

[JesusFreak offline]

I'm more of a McCain supprter (Republicans rule!), and I really despise Barack Obama becuase of his views and his recent controversies.

Thank goodness there are a few more out there (yep, I'm one as well). And I'm glad McCain is sitting in the background doing nothing right now. It's what he should be doing since the dems are still fighting it out, and if he does nothing he can't be criticized. Since Clinton (ugh...) and Obama are sniping at each other, then some dems fed up with the fighting are going to vote for him.

Oh yeah, one time at the National Constitution Center, McCain showed up for a visit, and since my mom was in the media then and connected to the station that was hosting his speech I met him backstage. He was a really nice person to talk to.

To think I might've shaken hands with the next US president and I thought nothing of it then...

Awesome story.

I just think the emboldened portion is a funny turn of phrase, considering a story the Clintons made up...

[SilverPrince offline]

Well, I certainly feel out of place. I support the Democratic Party. I don't know which candidate I truly support, I like Hillary's healthcare plan, but I find myself more often smelling what Barack is cookin. As a staunch Liberal Democrat, I really don't want to see McCain as President, and I'm glad to see Huckabee and Romney out of the race.

I supported Bill Richardson for President in the beginning, but he never gained much momentum. And even if I was able to vote, my vote wouldn't have counted, as the Democratic Party still refuses to seat Michigan's delegates after we moved our primary up. The Republicans were a bit smarter and simply deducted half of our delegates from their convention. I don't see why we had to move up our primary anyway.

Personally, I'd love to see an Obama-Clinton ticket for the Democrats, that would bring in the voters from both bases. However, that is very unlikely with all the arguing they've been doing as of late. I'm afraid that all this bikcering will split the Democratic Party.

Also, I don't even know why I'm posting here... I've always been kinda bad at political discussions.

[Stonecreek]

So, anyone in this thread besides me able to legally vote?

[Tangent128 offline]

Yep. Voted Huckabee in the Virginia primary, but not many of my compatriots were like-minded, it seems.

[. offline]

God help me if hillary wins. To be honest I've been a big Obama guy since the start, but if need be I think I could live with McCain. He's bassically a nice balance of liberal and republican or so I've heard.

Hillary opposes free speech and is pro-censorship, and Obama is just a fresh breath of bloody air. I only disagree with his view of an imeadate withdrawl of Iraq. I don't like the war. I don't want there to be a draft. However if we leave the country in an unstable state, it's going to be like pre-WWII germany and a hitler is going to step in.

Same here.

Obama has many different controversies that aren't befitting of a President, such as the anti-USA statements made by his former pastor and him being a part of a black separatism march in 1995.

My dearest friend is an atheist, does that make me one as well?

[JesusFreak offline]

Have you been a dear friend to this Atheist for 20 yeas and recieve spiritual advice from him?
My point is this; a pastor is a major player in spiritual life. Things you recieve from him influence pretty much everything you choose. That's what worries some of us Conservatives.


Operation Chaos FTW

I don't really know about this election....but I DO know that whoever Bush endorses won't be too happy.

[Tangent128 offline]

*pictures headline*
BUSH ENDORSES HILLARY

[JesusFreak offline]

*pictures headline*
BUSH ENDORSES HILLARY

That would be the equivalent of the Death Star for Operation Chaos.

[TheLQ offline]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 4#24508854

there's no way hillary can win. Personally, if obama wins the democratic nomonee, then he's going to win the president, because the republican guy(can't think) is going to keep us in iraq forever

[Tangent128 offline]

???

McCain did say that we might be in Iraq for 100 years, but he meant that in the same way that we are still in Japan, Korea, etc.

[TrevT93 offline]

because the republican guy(can't think) is going to keep us in iraq forever

McCain said that withdrawal would not be immediate but within his term. The "Iraq forever" thing is a serious misquotation. And if we withdraw troops immediately, then the terrorists, believing they won, will attack again. 9/11 was bad enough; we really don't need a sequel.

God help me if hillary wins.

Me too. My parents have discussed moving out of the country if she wins. She seems to want socialism. This comes just after me reading Orwell's 1984.

[. offline]

Have you been a dear friend to this Atheist for 20 yeas and recieve spiritual advice from him?
My point is this; a pastor is a major player in spiritual life. Things you recieve from him influence pretty much everything you choose. That's what worries some of us Conservatives.


Operation Chaos FTW

I don't really know about this election....but I DO know that whoever Bush endorses won't be too happy.

Just life advice, more concerned what goes on in the realm of the living then the dead my friend.

[JesusFreak offline]

Have you been a dear friend to this Atheist for 20 yeas and recieve spiritual advice from him?
My point is this; a pastor is a major player in spiritual life. Things you recieve from him influence pretty much everything you choose. That's what worries some of us Conservatives.


Operation Chaos FTW

I don't really know about this election....but I DO know that whoever Bush endorses won't be too happy.

Just life advice, more concerned what goes on in the realm of the living then the dead my friend.

???

If your referring to spiritual life, I could engage you in a long winded explanation of why we crazy Christians use the word "Life", or I can tell you this conversation is off topic.

Cinsidering past experience and assuming I learned something, what am I gonna choose?


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ON TOPIC!

It's funny how people are abandoning her like rats on a sinking ship....Hee hee

[Tangent128 offline]

Still, she certainly has the right to run until mathematically eliminated, like Huckabee ('course, most people flocked to McCain pretty fast).

It's nice to see the later states have some say for once.

[. offline]

Have you been a dear friend to this Atheist for 20 yeas and recieve spiritual advice from him?
My point is this; a pastor is a major player in spiritual life. Things you recieve from him influence pretty much everything you choose. That's what worries some of us Conservatives.


Operation Chaos FTW

I don't really know about this election....but I DO know that whoever Bush endorses won't be too happy.

Just life advice, more concerned what goes on in the realm of the living then the dead my friend.

???

If your referring to spiritual life, I could engage you in a long winded explanation of why we crazy Christians use the word "Life", or I can tell you this conversation is off topic.

Cinsidering past experience and assuming I learned something, what am I gonna choose?


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ON TOPIC!

It's funny how people are abandoning her like rats on a sinking ship....Hee hee

well if it helps, I've gone to christianity with my problems and they tell me to pray for help. My Atheist friend would tell me to help my self.

but blah blah blah