Interesting Question About The Scyphozoa

[Astro-Xana offline]

In regards to Season 2 when the Scyphozoa tried to steal Aelita's memory, we all know that when the Scyphozoa's tentacles are severed, that the memory fluid comes out and is restored back to Aelita.

However, in the episode "Saint Valentine's Day" when Odd shot Aelita so that the Scyphozoa would give up, its tentacles weren't severed (meaning that stealing her memory should be a success). And judging from how much time the Scyhpozoa got to steal her memory (in between Odd shooting her and the Scyphozoa reattempting), I would say that it managed to steal 80% of her memory. And yet, Aelita shows no sign of her having lost memory afterward.

So I have two questions regarding this:

1.) Providing that Aelita hasn't had 100% of her memory stolen, does this show that Aelita automatically recovers her memory on her own?

2.) If so, knowing that the Scyphozoa has acquired perhaps 80% of her memory in that episode, in the next episode, why is it that the Scyphozoa has to start all over again in stealing her memory from scratch--couldn't it just do a quick scan in her memory in reaching the 80% checkpoint and then steal her memory from there?

Now the memory loss is displayed as a countdown--not displayed as a percentage. The countdown starts from 15 seconds. But you can convert this countdown into a percentage. For example, a memory loss that lasts for 12 seconds would be a 80% memory loss (because 12/15 is simplified to 4/5 which is 80%). So, referring back to question #2, if Xana were to continue from this 80% checkpoint, the countdown would then obviously start from 3 seconds instead of 15.

It must be something like an installer program. Unless the process is 100% complete, it can be canceled and all the progress deleted.

Because with all the time she's been caught and drained of memory, she would have been killed in the third attack.

Now I don't know much when it comes to downloading, but you have the option of pausing when downloading something. So instead of letting the process be stopped when Odd shot laser arrows at Aelita, why couldn't the Scyphozoa just "press the pause button" before the process was stopped? That way, the information would of been saved. Now you have the option of canceling the download when it is paused--but that is an option that you would personally choose and has nothing to do with the Syphozoa losing its acquired data even if it were to "pause" its download.

[Andy Waltfeld offline]

Well, if you've seen Season 2 through to its end, then you'll know exactly why the percentage of memory loss is more or less irrelevant.

[Astro-Xana offline]

Well, if you've seen Season 2 through to its end, then you'll know exactly why the percentage of memory loss is more or less irrelevant.

Because it's a countdown--not displayed as a percentage. The countdown starts from 15 seconds. But you can convert this countdown into a percentage. For example, a memory loss that lasts for 12 seconds would be a 80% memory loss (because 12/15 is simplified to 4/5 which is 80%). So, referring back to question #2, if Xana were to continue from this 80% checkpoint, the countdown would then obviously start from 3 seconds instead of 15.

[Lyokosui offline]

It must be something like an installer program. Unless the process is 100% complete, it can be canceled and all the progress deleted.

Because with all the time she's been caught and drained of memory, she would have been killed in the third attack.

[Mewberries151]

It must be something like an installer program. Unless the process is 100% complete, it can be canceled and all the progress deleted.

Because with all the time she's been caught and drained of memory, she would have been killed in the third attack.

This.

Which makes sense within the context of Lyoko and show because, let's face it...they're inside a computer. And "stealing" more or less works the same as a download (especially if you consider it "pirating" or the like) from the looks of the show, which again...computer world.

So like Lyokosui said, if it's interrupted or canceled completely the progress is lost, which is why the Scyphozoa has to start-over each time.

Also, in regards to that first question, assuming that the "cancelled" theft doesn't automatically restore it somehow, I would assume she's self-recovering, probably through the towers or something as it's been shown they allow her to recover life points and such.

[SearchingLyoko offline]

Yeah... probably like a computer download. If it's cancelled, it has to completely restart.

[Astro-Xana offline]

Now I don't know much when it comes to downloading, but you have the option of pausing when downloading something. So instead of letting the process be stopped when Odd shot laser arrows at Aelita, why couldn't the Scyphozoa just "press the pause button" before the process was stopped? That way, the information would of been saved. Now you have the option of canceling the download when it is paused--but that is an option that you would personally choose and has nothing to do with the Syphozoa losing its acquired data even if it were to "pause" its download.

[desincarnation offline]

I might have a theory.
You keep on comparing memory to a file, or piece of data, which can be downloaded. And what if the memory is not a file at all, but a database, which keeps on evolving? One's mind isn't like a stable piece of data. What we experience and remember(and forget, too) changes the construction of this database. This way, every time the Scyphozoa reaches for Aelita's memory in search for keys to Lyoko, it has to start over again, because they keep on relocating thoroughout the structure of her memory.
... Perhaps Scyphozoa's attack or Odd's shooting could create a shock which could do it?
That may not be a good explanation of what happened in Saint Valentine's Day, though... for me, scriptwriters' tension-creating trick makes much more sense.

[Andy Waltfeld offline]

Because as most everyone else has said, it's not actually a download sequence, it's an install.

Consider what happens when you install files for a program, but decide to cancel it halfway. In your more basic installers, the files that managed to get copied over to your hard drive remain in whichever folders were created for them, but in a non-functional state. However, if you go back and decide to complete the installation, the installer doesn't go "check for existing files/folders and copy pending folders based on current status." Instead, it goes "check for existing files/folders and overwrite with new copies to avoid registry confusion." It's a failsafe to prevent the finished, fully installed program from malfunctioning by paging two of the same file at once.

And as I said before, watch Season 2 through to its end and the choice of analogy will become a LOT clearer in retrospect.

EDIT: Meant to reply to Astro-Xana's latest, but desincarnation raises a valid point regarding connections/data transfers that are interrupted by force (also, spoiling the lynchpin to my argument that I'd hoped to let you discover for yourself).

[SearchingLyoko offline]

It's usually just best to let the writer's write and just go with the flow.
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Maybe Franz is responsible..

[Slayer offline]

Because as most everyone else has said, it's not actually a download sequence, it's an install.

Wouldn't it be closer to an uninstall? When its possessing her it would be an install that is always some how uninstalled with out the Scyphozoa.

My theory on this is that when Aelita is being drained of her memory its saved in RAM and while Jeremy is constantly typing away her clears it before XANA gets it.

[SearchingLyoko offline]

I still go with the Download thing. If it's canceled before completing, it doesn't completely process.