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Postby comex » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:00 pm

In order to retrieve them, they would need a special rematerialization program that can be found only in Carthage.

I suspect that the original codes for rematerialization were already present when Jeremie found Lyoko, since they were needed; one for each region. The fact that Carthage holds all the codes and that Jeremie didn't yet have a rematerialization code for it are, I think, coincidental.

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Postby xxJeanGreyxx » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:51 pm

It seems that way. I mean if they were in the mountain region and Odd got crushed by a rock. I think it would hurt him when he got out of the scanners. Getting devirtualized by lazers doesn't hurt as much.
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Postby comex » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:52 pm

*cough* Isn't that when they didn't yet have the revirtualization code?

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Postby DL » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:52 pm

this one I think we have to say was plot oriented...no other explanation that I can see...unless Jeremy took longer to execute the program the first time

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Postby animenologist » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:08 pm

EPISODE 22: ROUTINE

In a very interesting move, for this episode, XANA infects himself with a virus. After Aelita detected the tower and the defenders sent to Lyoko, Aelita discovered that XANA infected himself using the interface in a neutral tower to scan for anomolies. Xana infected himself in order to corrupt the devirtualization process, which normally he does not have access to. The consequence of this is that now the devirtualization process will be fatal to the defenders, in the same manner as Aelita.

In order to prevent this from happening, Jeremie attempted to remove the virus himself while the others tried deactivate the tower controlling the virus. First he attempted to remove the virus through the console, but that proved to be futile. After this attempt, he moved to the scanner room to look for the main hard drive. Failing that, he began moving back towards the elavator, but was locked out by XANA. As a last attempt, he moved to the supercomputer room through the hatch separating the scanner room and supercomputer room, using a harness. After inspecting the supercomputer and finding what he had been looking for, he began to work on removing the virus by removing broken circuit boards and replacing them with operating ones from other parts of the hard drive. Jeremie was almost successful, but upon attempting to remove the final broken circuit board, XANA electricuted him with an electric feedback, causing him to go unconcious. This is the first time Jeremie attempted to curb the effects of an attack by directly fixing the problem. A similar and successful attempt occurred in A Great Day, when he attempted to release XANA's control of the return trips to the past.
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Postby xxJeanGreyxx » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:18 pm

Thanks for the Welcome TB3. :D

I do remember season 1. That one episode when Yumi falls into the digital sea. So he must of not had the devirtualization process yet.
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Postby animenologist » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:36 pm

It was stated that rematerialization and devirtualization in Sector 5 was different than the normal Lyoko. Thus the reason why Odd and Ulrich couldn't be brought back from Sector 5 when they were killed off. It has nothing to do with the countdown. If you remember, the same thing happened to Yumi when she was blasted by the manta, she was devirtualized, but not rematerialized. After using the new rematerialization program recovered from Sector 5, he was able to bring them back.

After finding the program, he could integrated it with the console, so that they would devirtualize automatically like in normal Lyoko. That seems to be the case, as Yumi was devirtualized as such in Is Anybody Out There? when Yumi was devirtualized with Jeremie being scared out of his mind with that ghostly polymorph running about.

EDIT: And no problem, TB3. I have a knack for memorizing junk. So its no big deal. Just do what you can, then you and some of the other people hanging around can contribute some more when we get to season 2.
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Postby comex » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:42 pm

Aren't the season 1 eps replaying? Why haven't you watched them?

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Postby animenologist » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:49 pm

Well, they're only at episode 6, Cruel Dillemma. Kinda a little behind us, since we're at Episode 23, Rock Bottom. So its either wait 1-2 weeks for them to catch up, or just have anyone who can take up summary duties for a while.

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EPISODE 23: ROCK BOTTOM?

XANA's attack for this episode was to leak a lot of routers from park lamps and have them seep into the ground. The routers then manipulate the soil turning into a slurry of mud. After finishing, the routers then continue to spread outward in all directions, replicating and manipulating the soil, causing the foundations of bulidings to become unstable and to begin sinking into the ground. In many ways, its similar to Amnesia or one of XANA'S various attacks by infection, though in this case, XANA is using the routers directly instead of using it as a tool for control.
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Now just have Ghost Channel, Code Earth, and False Start, and those should be the easiest in terms of rememberance. If anyone wants to take em, nows their chance.
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Postby animenologist » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:49 am

Well, gone this far, might aswell finish it up.

EPISODE 25: CODE: EARTH

Jeremie finally completes the materialization program. The program takes Aelita's vDNA and translate it into actual DNA (according to current theory). In order to initially launch the program, Jeremie required Aelita to be in a passage tower within the Forest Region. After meeting with a minor resistance from a squad of three blocks, XANA sent in two megatanks in a last ditch attempt to stop Aelita, by destroying the tower. This shows that towers are alterable and even destroyable. It ends with the program shown to be successful as Aelita is materializaed on Earth.

Interesting Notes/Anomoly: Jeremie's choice for a tower to initially launch his program was from a Passage tower in the Forest Region. This is different from the normal Way tower, that connects the 4 regions. What significance passage towers contain currently remaains unresolved. Interesting anomoly, the tower Aelita was virtualized in, fluctuated in between active and neutral. When they first approached the tower, it was red. After entering the tower to await Jeremie's return it was neutral blue. Then it turned red again as the megatanks attacked once more.
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EPISODE 26: FALSE START

It was later discovered that XANA corrupted the materialization process while Aelita was being created, causing her to remain linked with the supercomputer, meaning she will die if XANA is deactivated for an extended period of time. The virus probably infected her nervous system, thus why she was feeling headaches and a loss of a pulse during the energy failures in Common Interest. This was discovered after a brief shut down of XANA when Aelita fainted, she was examined using the scanner by Jeremie where he detected the virus.

For XANA's attack on Earth, XANA infected one of the scanners, allowing him replicate an actual mechanical version of the Kankrelots. This is probably using a similar method in Image Problem, forcing a materialization command while feeding in a file containing the blue prints necessary to change from computer code to an actual representation. The attack was halted partially by Jeremie, when he deactivated the infected scanner from the console. Kankrelots still active continued their attack, until the tower shut down, disconnecting their link from XANA.
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There we go. Season 1, all wrapped up. Took longer than expected. Anyways, Season 2 to whoever. Also you can try discussing the notes I brought up in Code: Earth.

Maybe for the article, we should also include a section that contains questions that we have not adequately answered. In any theory, some questions are left unanswered due to lack of evidence. And going over some of these episodes, I realize that we can't answer all the questions based on the evidence we were given. Code: Earth has me questioning the significance of a passage tower, since its not used for transport, but was still significant enough to be the tower for the initial launching aswell as being given a distinguishing title. It kinda gives us something to think about answering in anticipation for Season 3.
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Postby Chad Rains » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:00 am

one kind of idea I want to bring up relating to the visions that Aelita has been having:

As a pre-requisite for my theory, she had to have been human at one point and some form of biological data had to have already been in the computer (vDNA possibly?) prior to Aelita's materialization.

anyways, my theory on this is that for whatever reason, sometime around when Aelita was virtualized and trapped in Lyoko, she had lost all her memories, but she didnt necessarily lose them permanently. rather, there were still "crumbs", perse, lodged in her brain. being on Lyoko, her brain essentially laid dormant and thus no memories or visions. but once she was materialized, this gave her brain a chance to take those memory "crumbs" and try to peice them together into actual memories. this is where her visions have been coming from.
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Postby YDV » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:10 pm

Your theory sounds solid, TB3 (though I kinda had to rush through it...) And I'd LOVEEE to start off Season 2, but like I mentioned in the XANADU thread I am currently computer-less and I have to do everything within a 20 minute timeframe on my mom's laptop before she gets home...

I'm gonna miss this thread... I wish they didn't moniter the computers at school like we were felons and I could sneak on in study hall... :whatever:

Ehh... screw it, I'll try to comment on as much as I can.

Regarding the passage/way towers... I never really thought too deep into what their significance was, just that they were necessary for CE Materialization. But... I pretty much agree with everything TB3 said. And I'm pretty sure I thought of all flows of data starting out in/passing through Carthage way back in like, my first post... :umm:
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Postby comex » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:56 pm

Someone should rename this topic to "The Testing Topic".

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Postby Lotho » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:58 pm

Sorry but when it was invisible I had to test it to get a better feel of what was going on.
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Postby comex » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:59 pm

More on topic, how can data or code be "in" a place? Probably there is some software which renders the data of its own system inside Lyoko... which is quite a feat... but why should Lyoko's programs wait for data to transfer physically in Lyoko when they can just send data to each other?

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Postby TB3 » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:07 pm

We don't really know in reply to your question comex, but we do know that data gets shunted around Lyoko a lot - I mean we see that 'shot down the cables' in every episode.

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On other business.

Earlier today there was quite a scare. Due to either an accident or malignant hacking, my account was terminated. This meant all my posts and all my threads vanished, including this one - I was literally terrified when I saw it had been wiped - I seriously thought I would have a heart-attack, that's how shocking ithe loss of 400 posts of tech-talk was.

However, thanks to the efforts of an elite group (credited in my sig) emulating Jeremie's difficult work in every aspect, my threads and posts have been recovered, and a new profile created for me.

In short LET'S TALK TECH lives to debate another day (and judging from comments made during the recovery process this thread is more popular than previously thought).

In celebration, and in lieu of YDV who sadly can't join us due to parental restrictions but who we hope to see again soon, I hereby kick off the S2 summaries;

EPISODE TWENTY-SEVEN: NEW ORDER
XANA, based on his virtual world construct in GHOST CHANNEL, suceeds in the creating the first of a new generation of monsters - the Tarantula.

In the real world, he attacks the kids when they visit an abandoned house called The Hermitage - using the routers to convert everyday objects into leathal weapons including hand-items, doors and a domestic thermostat. He would also appear to have control of a security camera system in the vicinity of the Hermitage.

Though simple, this attack was probably more in-depth than first realised. XANA controlled multiple objects at once and presumably had to use the routers to draw electricity from the computer via ZPE-Space in order to power the heating system and cameras.

This episode also marked the first appearance of vehicals on Lyoko - digital constructs assembled and operated from Jeremie's console, as well as the noteable up-sizing of Odd's armoury.

It's also noteworthy that Aelita begins to suffer the first of several flashbacks in this episode, beginning to introduce the concept of Franz Hopper.

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Great to see this thread still rolling and I look forward to your feedback - tommorow and on Friday we've gotta blitz Season 2 in preparation for Firday's climax! :D
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Postby animenologist » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:20 am

Good to see you and this thread back. Really to see 430+ posts of thought, theory, rationalization, and conjecture just go away like that really put me on edge. Guess XANA was frightened by the fact that we were getting so close to figuring him out, so he got rid of the one, for which the entire body of work would fall apart. :)

All joking aside, gotta keep moving forward. Only 1.5 days to get up to speed.

EPISODE 28: UNCHARTERED TERRITORY

A new and amazing discovery was brought to our attention in this episode. After Aelita virtualized herself into Lyoko by setting a timer before the scanner went off, she was lured to the edge of the region, where XANA called up a transporter to a mysterious sector which at that time had remained unknown. This is the first known occurrence of an automated virtualization sequence. The transporter was able to be called remotely through the console by entering the code, SCIPIO, after Scipio Africanus, who defeated Hannibal of Carthage in 202 B.C.

The transporter sends anyone tranported by it into a larger arena which has an opening to the inner sanctum. The interior is made of geometric shapes colored a shade of blue, and introduced 2 new monsters, the Creeper, which seems to be guardians of the new sector, and the Schyphozoa, which is capable of draining data and memory, and was used by XANA to try and steal her memory. After the door to inner sanctum opens from the arena, a 3 min. countdown begin. At the end of the countdown, the walls shift and the door from the arena closes. One may exit Sector 5 by using transporter that is called when entering SCIPIO.

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EPISODE 29: EXPLORATION

This episode continues the inner working of Sector 5. It is discovered that the environment for Sector 5 is constantly changing, possibly as an extra security function against intruders. After entering the arena and the door to the inner sanctum opens, the 3 min. countdown starts. That countdown represents a timer for those who enter the sector to push a key to stop the clock. Should they fail, the walls shift and the environment changes. And all access to the inner area is shut off until a new explorer attempts to run through the sector's defenses. Along with the environment, an additional defense includes those who are devirtualized within the sector are not immediately materialized to the scanners. It requires a special set of coding that is stored in XANA's memory banks.

Should an explorer managed to hit the key before the countdown runs down, the walls open up a corridor that leads to a multi-directional elevator that stops at a platform that has a user interface. The interface is a direct link to XANA's memory. It was there that it was discovered that Sector 5 is where XANA resides at in the supercomputer. When the interface is in use, all controls from the console are locked out until the one controlling the user interface stops. It is here that XANA introduces a third monster that acts as a last line of defense to those entering Carthage, the Mantas. These flying creatures are not created in the normal fashion as the more familiar monsters, they emerge from the digital walls that surround Sector 5, in a process called hatching. Last, there are for tunnels that act as entry points into Sector 5. These tunnels converge into the arena, possibly acting as infromation feed to and from the sector. They also are exit ways from the sector, connecting the sector to each region's way tower.

Current theory suggests that Carthage is heavily defended in order to protect from unauthorized access to XANA and the supercomputer's most protected information. At the same time, it acts as a safeguard allowing users to access XANA's memory and information directly, should the need for it ever arise.
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Postby Chad Rains » Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:52 am

as a pre-note: feel free to correct me on some parts here. My first technical summary. :D

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EPISODE 30: A GREAT DAY

In this episode, XANA attempts to follow an alterior motive consisting of constantly using the RTTP program to further increase his power. according to Jeremie, the data that was earlier recovered from Sector 5 was booby-trapped which gave XANA access to the RTTP program.

But as soon as the team gets a grasp of what's going on, XANA changes tactics back to his usual "attack the group and steal Aelita's memory". with the increased power from the numerous RTTP's, XANA is now capable of his first human posession: Sissi.

while the group attempts to deactivate the tower on Lyoko for the second time, XANA once again activates another RTTP. but this time around Jeremie manages to lock out the RTTP program from XANA before the day starts over.
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Postby Cassius335 » Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:09 am

TB3 wrote:On other business.

Earlier today there was quite a scare. Due to either an accident or malignant hacking, my account was terminated. This meant all my posts and all my threads vanished, including this one - I was literally terrified when I saw it had been wiped - I seriously thought I would have a heart-attack, that's how shocking ithe loss of 400 posts of tech-talk was.

However, thanks to the efforts of an elite group (credited in my sig) emulating Jeremie's difficult work in every aspect, my threads and posts have been recovered, and a new profile created for me.

In short LET'S TALK TECH lives to debate another day (and judging from comments made during the recovery process this thread is more popular than previously thought).


Glad to see you're still here. So much for your post count, though...
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Postby comex » Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:06 am

All added to the wiki. Copying and pasting is not exactly a hard process, don't know why I procrastinated so long.
http://www.xemoc.net/clwiki/index.php/L ... h_episodes

Anyway, I don't see how the deletion of a user destroys his topics; well, it obviously didn't if it recovered. Maybe PHPBB doesn't know how to show a topic if the user doesn't exist... but that's strange... eh, whatever.

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