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Postby animenologist » Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:48 pm

Even though I knew about the clip for a while, thanks anyways. I believe I placed a theory about it in the lets talk tech thread, saying that either Jeremie just virtualized a possessed Odd, meaning he finally gained the strength to overpower the defenders or he virtualized a polymorphic clone, which I wondered what would happen if something like that happen since Xana's Kiss. But Friday is drawing oh so near and oh so close.
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Postby Mewberries151 » Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:22 pm

animenologist wrote:Even though I knew about the clip for a while, thanks anyways. I believe I placed a theory about it in the lets talk tech thread, saying that either Jeremie just virtualized a possessed Odd, meaning he finally gained the strength to overpower the defenders or he virtualized a polymorphic clone, which I wondered what would happen if something like that happen since Xana's Kiss. But Friday is drawing oh so near and oh so close.


I'm going with the polymorphic clone theory. That better explains why he could then change into a XANAUlrich. Plus, if he had possessed Odd, the XANA symbols would be showing in his eyes. Whenever XANA's controling a person, his presence can be seen there. The few times in "Ultimatum" where the principal was possessed but had human pupils was because XANA wasn't ordering him to do anything, just holding him in a sort of stasis. The polymorph seems more likely.
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Postby Darkborn » Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:31 pm

Yup Yup, I'd go with the Polymorph, but let us wait and see, because if we try to make up what might happen and it does happen we might be not as much surprised when it happens....I confused myself.
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Postby animenologist » Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:11 pm

Mewberries151 wrote:
animenologist wrote:Even though I knew about the clip for a while, thanks anyways. I believe I placed a theory about it in the lets talk tech thread, saying that either Jeremie just virtualized a possessed Odd, meaning he finally gained the strength to overpower the defenders or he virtualized a polymorphic clone, which I wondered what would happen if something like that happen since Xana's Kiss. But Friday is drawing oh so near and oh so close.


I'm going with the polymorphic clone theory. That better explains why he could then change into a XANAUlrich. Plus, if he had possessed Odd, the XANA symbols would be showing in his eyes. Whenever XANA's controling a person, his presence can be seen there. The few times in "Ultimatum" where the principal was possessed but had human pupils was because XANA wasn't ordering him to do anything, just holding him in a sort of stasis. The polymorph seems more likely.


While I agree that the polymorph is the most likely theory and my current theory of choice, the Xana eye pupils thing is bad evidence. The eyes change during points when a point where Xana exhibits a great amount of influence to the possessed person or polymorph. In St. Valentines Day and Mr. Puck, both Jeremie and Aelita had points in time where there pupils are normal and both at times when they were moving and even communicating with their friends. As evidence for the other side, the polymorph in Xana's Kiss changed his pupils after Aelita was able to determine the real Jeremie and in Franz Hopper, the fake Hopper had his pupils change after Jeremie confronted him as Xana.
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Postby Mewberries151 » Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:53 pm

animenologist wrote:
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animenologist wrote:Even though I knew about the clip for a while, thanks anyways. I believe I placed a theory about it in the lets talk tech thread, saying that either Jeremie just virtualized a possessed Odd, meaning he finally gained the strength to overpower the defenders or he virtualized a polymorphic clone, which I wondered what would happen if something like that happen since Xana's Kiss. But Friday is drawing oh so near and oh so close.


I'm going with the polymorphic clone theory. That better explains why he could then change into a XANAUlrich. Plus, if he had possessed Odd, the XANA symbols would be showing in his eyes. Whenever XANA's controling a person, his presence can be seen there. The few times in "Ultimatum" where the principal was possessed but had human pupils was because XANA wasn't ordering him to do anything, just holding him in a sort of stasis. The polymorph seems more likely.


While I agree that the polymorph is the most likely theory and my current theory of choice, the Xana eye pupils thing is bad evidence. The eyes change during points when a point where Xana exhibits a great amount of influence to the possessed person or polymorph. In St. Valentines Day and Mr. Puck, both Jeremie and Aelita had points in time where there pupils are normal and both at times when they were moving and even communicating with their friends. As evidence for the other side, the polymorph in Xana's Kiss changed his pupils after Aelita was able to determine the real Jeremie and in Franz Hopper, the fake Hopper had his pupils change after Jeremie confronted him as Xana.


You're right. I should have elaborated a little further. I meant that XANA's presence when he's possessing a person shows through the person's eyes when he's ordering them to do something that they'd never do normally (as in, it's no longer in compliance with their own behavior). If XANA were to have possessed Odd for this episode, Odd would not (in his mind) have wanted to go into the scanners, knowing XANA had possessed him.
Then again, I might be reading too much into the idea that the possession victims are "aware" on some level that they've been possessed.

But if Odd really were possessed, would it have made an error with the scans? I can't remember if in "St. Valentines Day", when Aelita scanned in, if the scans picked up an error. If they did, then there is possibility that the scans would pick up XANA's presence in Odd, and call an error. Otherwise, a polymorph scanning into a virtual body not designed for it, would most definitely cause an error in the scans.

I suppose for a definitive answer, Friday will be the day. ^.^
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Postby MY85 » Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:59 pm

Mewberries151 wrote:But if Odd really were possessed, would it have made an error with the scans? I can't remember if in "St. Valentines Day", when Aelita scanned in, if the scans picked up an error. If they did, then there is possibility that the scans would pick up XANA's presence in Odd, and call an error. Otherwise, a polymorph scanning into a virtual body not designed for it, would most definitely cause an error in the scans.

I suppose for a definitive answer, Friday will be the day. ^.^


When I saw the new video, Odd didn't sound happy, or just not as cheerful as he usually is. "I was busy"... and since XANA has gotten much powerful in the run... let me get my point: when XANA posessed Jeremie and Sissi, those were just mad angry clones. But when XANA posessed Jim, he could fake being Jim with ease. I'm not sure of this point, but I can believe he posessed Odd before he got inside the scanner, and with that, the bug is detected during the TSV process.
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Postby animenologist » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:40 am

Actually, the scanners did pick up an error when Aelita was virtualized in St. Valentines Day. So again, its absolutely possible. But yeah, the answers aswell as the almost end of a lot of theory and speculation based on evidence is nearing, in 5 days. And then its a good 9-10 months of more waiting. Another long wait.
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Postby MY85 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:53 am

animenologist wrote:And then its a good 9-10 months of more waiting. Another long wait.


Maybe less. At some topic at tv.com, I've read that Season 3 would be airing on Spring 2006, and Season 4 by Fall 2006- Spring 2007. But we have to know when the VA's begin recording. They started recording Season 2 by April, I guess...

Many speculations await...
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Postby animenologist » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:11 am

The Voice of Odd wrote:Hi, Odd22 :hello: I love getting to play Odd :D He is my favourite character I have ever got to play in a cartoon series. Not only do love getting to "be" Odd but I love all the characters and the whole series itself. I am a little sad I have to wait until March 2006 before we start recording new episodes. But also, being that Code Lyoko is now officially the number one show -the most popular and most watched series not only on Muguzi but amongst all of Cartoon Network, I might get to be him for more than just another two years. (I hope.)


This was taken from Odd's VA thread. Again, things don't look too hopeful. Though things can change.
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Postby Cassius335 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:24 am

Given what David Gassman said:

Cher's Spare Parts wrote:The cartoon is recorded off of the page, but not by the actual actors. One or two actors record all of the parts, and this is used as a "guide track" for the images. When the images are complete, the actors go to a studio and record to the image. In France, the text appears on a white strip or "band" that runs across the bottom of the screen. In America, they don't use a band. They record line by line to the sound of three beeps. Also, typically US cartoon voice actors are alone in the studio doing all of their parts. In France, it's much more convivial, with everybody there at once.


Does that mean the Season 3 scripts are done? :arg:
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Postby Taelia » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:52 am

The team is probably gonna use my characters.
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Postby bduddy » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:43 pm

It's a well-known fact that the writers of all popular shows take all their ideas from fansites.

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Postby Darkborn » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:16 pm

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Postby xxJeanGreyxx » Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:21 pm

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Postby Darkborn » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:02 pm

I saved the movie to my computer so if anyone missed it tell me and I'll find a way to post it.

I'm trying to get the new video where Jim gets Xanafied lol. I'm hoping that it works and that it won't change when the new video comes out.
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Postby Mewberries151 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:51 pm

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Darkborn wrote:I'm trying to get the new video where Jim gets Xanafied.


WHAT! WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN! :omg:


In "Final Mix". He has yet to be "Jerem-ified" though. ^_^
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Postby MY85 » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:57 pm

Mewberries151 wrote:
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Darkborn wrote:I'm trying to get the new video where Jim gets Xanafied.


WHAT! WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN! :omg:


In "Final Mix". He has yet to be "Jerem-ified" though. ^_^


But if Darkborn is talking about a new video... though it could be on The Key.
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Postby Darkborn » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:01 pm

no it's Final Mix. Odd made his Paper Swan lol and Jim wanted to keep it, but lets get back on track. This isn't about Jimbo it's about Revelations.
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Postby Overcaffeinated Sloth » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:36 am

Darkborn wrote:I saved the movie to my computer so if anyone missed it tell me and I'll find a way to post it.

I'm trying to get the new video where Jim gets Xanafied lol. I'm hoping that it works and that it won't change when the new video comes out.

OH PLEASE FIND A WAY!
PLEASEPLEASE OR i'M GONNA KEEP SQUEAKING AND IT'S GONNA BREAK THE WINDOWS AND JEREMIE'S GLASSES AND MAKE ODD'S HAIR FLOP OVER!
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Sorry, I've been sick the past few days and didn't get to see it.
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