Let's talk tech (Now with Glossary)!

[animenologist offline]

Nice job. Guess I was right about the polymorphic clone in the scanner. And the people who guessed about XANA virtualizing himself were right aswell. This is so eerie that so many ideas are culminating and lots of it are predicted by the fan community. Amazing.

[comex offline]

And yet all the theories about the virus... predicted by the fan community? Certainly not here anyway, although I'm sure there were fanfictions with it.

[YDV offline]

Ok... we were so totally wrong about the virus thing. But my theory about Aelita having special "keys" to Lyoko were right! I swear!

I'm too blown away by the episodes to write up any techhie theories right now.. sorry. lol

[TB3]

No virus - missing memories restored, Hopper dead? XANA based in reality.

S2 really did turn the world of Code: Lyoko on it's head.

EDIT:
And not to brag, but a few days ago we debated whether Aelita had changed form.

Well we were right - her DNA did mutate, because in the past she looked like she did in Season 1.

My fingers are trembling too much to type - I've gotta take a breather.

[DL offline]

Ok this may be a little late but all the theorys in this thread were more or less proved right! They are so reading this thread to come up with the technical stuff

[Stonecreek]

And ahven't we been asking to see more real world time? With XANA out on the rpowl, we might get just that. And the formulaic episodes may be a thing of the past. And you have a whole new tech aspect to talk about with Aelita getting brought back...I could go on, but the tech-heads do it so much better than I do.

[DL offline]

Ok now that the fever has died down, somewhat, it is time to get to work. How will XANA attack now? What will his new goals be? How is he going to be stopped?

I am sure that we can assume that Jeremy will use Hopper's journal to rework the towers to affect XANA in the real world. Maybe he will even be able to use the vDNA in the real world. Samuri Ulrich in the real world. Tell me that would not be cool. The RTTP will most likely be used more often. But how will XANA attack? Maybe he can still posess machinery but creating specters is not likely, unless he still has a small connection to Lyoko and the supercomputer.

[TB3]

Think about it guys - the show will still be called Code: Lyoko - the title and the concept demands that there still be a fight on Lyoko in every episode.

[Stonecreek]

But don't the RTTP's make XANA stronger? Why use it more when XANA just got a lot more powerful and free-roaming? And, once again, I point to the season 3&4 theories thread for this kind of talk. I didn't even start it, so I'm not self-promoting here; I just like it.

[Chad Rains offline]

Now that XANA is no longer tied to the super computer, the RTTP may no longer make him more powerful. who knows.

[YDV offline]

Yeah.. we're pretty much all up in the air now (tout envoyer en l'air... uh. sorry. kyo fan moment )

[TB3]

So how do we tackle the summary and technical questions presented in 'The Key' since there is a certain ambiguity.

[DL offline]

we will have to leave it out until more data can be found otherwise we are just being overly confident...looks like we will need to wait for season 3 to deal with the season 2 finale

[YDV offline]

Exactly. I think we'd better just get started on that essay and perhaps redefine our collective theory if necessary (based on events in the finale)

[animenologist offline]

We can always end it with a questions that have no answer section, basically a conglomerate of all our theories held as possible answers. Of course it will be completely based on conjecture, since we have no new evidence to use. This definately gives us something to look forward to next year.

I'm still wondering about how Xana created that polymorphic clone and maintained it without a tower, unless Jeremie didn't fix his scanner to include the one from Franz Hopper, which is entirely possible. It also answers the question I had concerning what would happen if a polymorph was virtualized.

I'm guessing that since Lyoko was shutting down after XANA materialized himself, he's like the kernel for Lyoko, thus why everything around was shutting down. My guess is that with XANA now gone, Hopper took XANA's spot as the controller and maintainer of Lyoko.

Just a few ideas I'm tossing out while I let the season finale sink in.

[TB3]

I just transcripted Hopper's diary entries.

June 6th 1994 day 67 – Project Carthage was a military program used to block enemy communications.
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So I built the supercomputer, created Lyoko, and finally XANA to destroy Carthage
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June 6th 1994 day 639
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June 6th 1994 day 1265 – someone’s watching me. Someone wants to get rid of me
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I wanted to destroy the supercomputer and destroy all the evidence of my activities. That’s when I discovered one of it’s fascinating properties – Returning to the Past. It gave me all the time I could possibly need to perfect my great project, the only thing that would allow me to escape my enemies.
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June 6th 1994 day 2546 – the scanners and the virtualisation programs are ready. In a few hours I will go to Lyoko, with Aelita. Just like me, Aelita will hold the keys to Lyoko. Together we will be the absolute masters. We will live together, forever.

D'you know what this means - the events of the day Hopper and Aelita entered Lyoko occured on June 6th 1994 (or possibily June 7th).

I think the timeline goes like this;

Hopper originally works on the computer in the regular way - one day at a time, possibly with a team, unaware that government agents are narrowing down on him and Aelita.

June 7th 1994 - The agents raid Hoppers home and possibly capture Aelita. Hopper in a panic flees to the factory and tries to destroy the incriminating evidence - the computer, console and the scanners are finished but nothing else.

Hopper begins the destruction of the computer (hence the damage on it's reverse side), but a brainwave stops him, in desperation his brain makes a new discovery in Exertanium physics - the ability to create a TAP.

Hopper is able to do a short reversal in time using the availible facilities (let's say a week), and then begins the task of building the STM in order to make this a permenant option. That done he recommences work on the scanner software and Lyoko.

Hopper now begins a laborious task of finishing the project by himself - constantly reliving the few days leading up to the events of June 7th, and when he finishes leaves to collect Aelita just as the agent arrive.

Living the same few days, over and over and over, turning a week (or so ) into a period of 2546 days - 6.97 years, has a crippling effect on Hopper's sanity, and his plans soon change to the twisted idea of living forever in Lyoko with Aelita. But it proves he loves his daughter dearly.

Any thoughts?

[Chad Rains offline]

Makes perfect sense. reliving the same day over for nearly 7 years would really do awful things to your sanity.

I dont have nothing to change on that.

[animenologist offline]

But if he has been using the RTTP function over and over again to relive the same day for such a long time, why is he only discovering the RTTP after 3.5 years according to your transcript. Its odd that he would make a jounal entry about something like that 3.5 years after he began using it.

Have to say, this certainly turns most of our thought processes upside down. Multiple thoughts now need to be discarded, multiple ideas rethought. In Marabounta, it was believed that the Marabounta attacked becaused the virus gave Aelita a similar signature to XANA's monsters, but now we know thats not the case. If it wasn't a virus that caused what Aelita was going through, than what did the anti-virus in Vertigo do? If it was true that taking Aelita's fragment is what made her vulnerable after Code: Earth, than what made her vulnerable in Season 1? And again, why doesn't she remember any of this? So many new questions brought about, that we need to put our collective minds to. This should be fun.

[TB3]

True - and Hopper's gotta have been using the RTTP function since before he mentioned it - how else would the same date crop up every time?

Perhaps by this point he was beginning to go a little bit 'soft in the head', either that or he was using the camera as someone to talk to, like a physciatrist, telling it his story in order to stay balanced.

And if you watch it through, he certainly seems to start going a little...potty.

And reworking our theories to date should be fantastic!

[Chad Rains offline]

the fragment may have very well been an "antivirus" of sorts. without that fragment, she registered as one of XANA's monsters. the fragment would essentially be what registers her as being "normal".

[MY85 offline]

True - and Hopper's gotta have been using the RTTP function since before he mentioned it - how else would the same date crop up every time?

I wonder if Aelita's mother died so he tried to do perfecionate the RTTP process, but maybe some glitch happened and kept him for a long time in Lyoko. Just a silly idea. Sorry that I don't post much here. Not much of a long post writer...

[TB3]

It's great to see you here Rodri - and we've passed 500 posts. W00T!

Judging from how Aelita's mother just vanished in her flash-back, I'd say she died/left while they were still living at the Chalet and not The Hermitage - possibly this has to do with Project Carthage.

[Darkborn offline]

I'm thinking Aelita's Mother got annoyied by Franz because of all his away time from the familiy and possibly spending his time at the supercomputer. (Aelita didn't know about the supercomputer so i'm thinking that the mother doesn't know either)

[animenologist offline]

I've just had a thought, maybe that fragment has always been missing, even in Season 1. Jeremie's materialization program only did what XANA did in Image Problem, False Start, and A Bad Turn, create an actual recreation of a digital being. And all the talk about a virus in was only a way to rationalize why its happening to her. Though that does put into question why XANA put in so much effort to stop her, when she was still just have a link to him to protect himself.

And I guess you could be right. Hopper could of been talking about this for either video record keeping, or he could of already went mad. I'm thinking the latter and reliving the same day over and over again could have taken a toll on his mind to the point that he actually thinks he's living the day like normal. The fact that he's reliving the same day always, also means that the same men in black could have been banging on his door for 6.5 years. 6.5 years of men in black banging on your door with guns getting ready to shoot you would be un-nerving especially if any mistake in your routine means the end of you. The fact that XANA also seems to becoming possibly more malevolent could of added to his paranoia and added credit to what he was feelings in day 1265.

Also, I'm still not entirely onboard with the change in DNA theory for Aelita, TB3. I'm going with the artists just going through a refining of her design. Seems somewhat overly complicated for something that has no major backing behind. You could be right, I just have major doubts about it.

[TB3]

I just mean in the past she looks just like she did in the Season 1 climax - same outfit, same facial features, everything.

This might be a result of whatever happened when they entered Lyoko and led to Franz's imprisonment and Aelita's amnesia.

And an excellent point on the missing memory fragment.

EDIT:
We also now know that Lyoko was built to destroy Project Carthage, which I theorise was intended to do more than just disrupt enemy communications (Jeremie cut Franz off, he could have gone into a long speil of things Carthage was intended for).

Also, from evidence shown in the show (particularly the damage Franz inflicted on the computer still being in existance) we can confirm that RTTPing does not include physical changes to the world.

Therefore, before Franz began using the RTTP, most of the hardware had to have been in existance (scanners, computer, console). I reckon that Franz used the scanners to effect his first RTTP by writing a program over a few days (while the agents trace him from the Hermitage to the factory), and then after that RTTP used the first period of regained time to built the STM. This establishes the furthest back in time Franz can practically go - of course he can go back further but then the STM would not be in existance and he'd have to build it again before he could continue working, hence the constant repeating of June 6th 1994.

As time goes by Franz continues to write and develop the software for his project, gradually suffering from increased mental stress (technically with the RTTP he no longer even needs to sleep), and somewhere along the way, the idea of building Lyoko to destroy Carthage vanishes and is replaced with the idea of building Lyoko to hide from his antagonists - thus the creation of scenery to make Lyoko into a habitable environment.

FINAL SUMMARY BUT ONE
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EPISODE FIFTY-ONE: REVELATION
Using data recovered from Carthage and the data gained from Sissi in Contact, Jeremie suceeds in creating a program to decode Franz Hopper's diary. However, they need the computing power of the supercomputer to decode it.

As such Aelita and the team travel to Lyoko where Jeremie activates a tower and Aelita sets the program in motion. This proves that the towers are vacant areas of memory and data from where one can run a program. However Jeremie's program is incredibly large and complex and Aelita discovers she can't stop it.

This becomes problematic when the team finds Odd has been replaced and a polymorphic clone virtualised in his place. This would involve the routers creating an near-exact match of Odd genetically to fool the scanners, with the exception of a small change in order to bug the code and allow XANA access to 'Odd's' coding - preventing a forced DeVirt and allowing XANA to manipulate the code and transform his 'Odd' into a clone of Ulrich.

We also now have evidence that the console's data is held in the same memory banks as that of the supercomputer, but in a restricted access section. Given the open link between the tower and this section, XANA attempts to undo all of Jeremie's work by taking control of the tower.

Ulrich attempts (and fails) to stop this by isolating the tower from the network (cutting the cables), until Hopper takes control of the tower, forcibly ejects XANA, and brings the decoding program up to full speed.

This leads me to a possibility. The forty-first tower in Carthage may well be the point where Hopper is/was contained, or the access point to his prison, thus why XANA activated it in Franz Hopper in order to build his simulation from it.

Aelita entering into this tower not only shut down XANA's program, but (unbeknowst to herself and unexpected by XANA) allowed Hopper a fleeting moment of interaction with his daughter when she entered the Lyoko code. By breifly completing the keys to Lyoko in this manner, Hopper (for the first time in 12 years) gained the ability to make small sorties from his prison via the towers, as seen in 'Contact'.

He made another in 'Revelation,' and grew in strength from connecting with Aelita through the towers - this also explains why the program sped up, as Hopper was able to use the reasources of his tower to speed the process.

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Does any of this work?

And Animenologist, I think you deserve the honour of writing the last summary, and then we start the refining.

BRING IT ON!