Attack to Vulnerability

[Lyokofreak offline]

I noticed when all the characters make an offense, their defense is lowered completely. Ulrich is a BIG example. When he has that twig (his sword) up in the air, he usually gets shot and devirtualized. Odd as well. But it happens the least to Yumi, because most of the time she sets up a defense. I wish that there were off/def moves on CL.

dOES this belong in Tech Discussion?

[Blue Armor Boy offline]

By more defence moves, do you mean more moves like odds shield?

[Overcaffeinated Sloth offline]

No, like something to protect themselves while they launch out a weapon. Like in the first season Odd was utterly defenseless, while Ulrich kept his sword close. But Yumi only had one fan, and basically had to throw it. Leaving her with no shield.

[Blue Armor Boy offline]

So like another weapon, but only for defence?

[Overcaffeinated Sloth offline]

Well, mabey, or something better like faster reflexes or area sensing, so they at least KNOW when something's coming and brace for impact and don't fall over the edge and die.

[Lyokofreak offline]

By more defence moves, do you mean more moves like odds shield?

No, like something to protect themselves while they launch out a weapon. Like in the first season Odd was utterly defenseless, while Ulrich kept his sword close. But Yumi only had one fan, and basically had to throw it. Leaving her with no shield.

Like angelbolt said, when the release a weapon/attack.

There must be a way to do both at the same time. Its highly possible in season 2 for Yumi because she can block with one fan and attack with the other. Ulrich need two swords, but there still isint a way. Picture it...

[5188148 offline]

Ulrich is the only one who can't plausibly defend himself while attacking.

[Blue Armor Boy offline]

Well, mabey, or something better like faster reflexes or area sensing, so they at least KNOW when something's coming and brace for impact and don't fall over the edge and die.

I remember Jeremy saying that he hasin't finished the program that calculates trojectory, on the vehicles.. So you're saying he should make a program like that, on them?

[animenologist offline]

Don't really see whats wrong with the current mechanics of how their weapons currently work. Its more interesting to have points of vulnerability. Gives chances for exploitation by enemies and hardships to overcome.

But with Season 2, many of their weaknesses were accounted for and evened out, though Ulrch seems to be the least dramatic.

With Yumi, throwing her weapon in Season 1 meant being defenseless to enemy fire, like in Holiday in the Fog where a lost fan meant death to a single Kankrelat. With Season 2, the second fan means more defense, and less chance of enemy fire hitting thanks to not having her defense. She also seems to be utilizing her gymnastic ability much better. She is becoming a cross between Ulrich and Odd, combining good dodging ability and decent deflecting ability.

With Odd, for Season 1, he was not defenseless. His reflexes and acrobatic ability was his defense and that carried the day many times. The disadvantage to it was in cases where he needed to protect someone else or didn't have enough room to move like in Cruel Dilemma when he was caught in cross-fire with Aelita in the middle. That was alleviated slight with his new shield and may get better as he gets better at using it. His offense main weakness used to be limited ammo, but that was corrected with a larger arrow holding capacity. So Odd's fighting capability has had many decent improvements.

The only one who seems to have not gotten much in fighting upgrade is Ulrich, but really, during Season 1, he was probably the most balanced fighter. He had the best defense in terms of protecting others and defending while stationary. Though he had a melee weapon, his superspeed make getting to his enemy easy. And compared to the other two, he has the most battle-friendly abilities. Triplicate and Triangulate has no major drawback and doesn't require him to stand still, make himself vulnerable, nor did it get in the way of his other abilities. Yumi's telekinesis required her to stand still or move very slowly. Same with Odd's foresight and his shield prevents him from firing or being able to use. His only shortcoming his that his dodging ability is substandard compared to Yumi or Odd, but I think it balances him.

[Arcalyth offline]

I remember Jeremy saying that he hasin't finished the program that calculates trojectory, on the vehicles.. So you're saying he should make a program like that, on them?

I honestly hope that you know that defence and trajectory are WAY (BKO)ING DIFFERENT SUBJECTS.
Trajectory is related to math and is how the angle of incline and landing work.

As for as being on topic, I would say their pretty balanced. Yumi was worst in terms of defense in S1 and now that she has her 2 fans, I agree it makes her better for defense.

-Halo

[TaskForceLyoko offline]

Ulrich is the only one who can't plausibly defend himself while attacking.

Sometimes the best defense is a strong offense.

The lack of defense probably has to do with the fact that they aren't "playing for keeps". Except for a few incidents, the price they pay for getting hit or killed on Lyoko is being devirtualized. There isn't a true risk to them, or they'd likely be using more cover and attempting to gain better ground against the monsters.

[Blue Armor Boy offline]

I remember Jeremy saying that he hasin't finished the program that calculates trojectory, on the vehicles.. So you're saying he should make a program like that, on them?

I honestly hope that you know that defence and trajectory are WAY (BKO)ING DIFFERENT SUBJECTS.
Trajectory is related to math and is how the angle of incline and landing work.

I didin't think I could word it any better than that. Yes, I do know the difference. Dont get so worked up over 1 little comment, be creative