Let's talk tech (Now with Glossary)!

[Taelia offline]

Hey, TB3, why do you think Team Lyoko has to close their eyes during the TSV process? And can the final step be likened to teleportation?

[animenologist offline]

I'm waiting for pixelisation and and processes, myself. Those are my areas of expertise, or atleast the body of work I placed most of my thought on. Though the STM machine should be fun, since RTTP was probably the longest debate in this topic. Though will the STM article handle only the technical aspects or what actually happens according to our reasoning (tagging, mind transfer, reconstruction of dead brain matter)?

What do we have left after this anyways? And for the short dedication/notes, you mean just a few compliments to the group from the major contributors and just some thoughts we have overall on the project and the current technical paper, or what exactly did you have in mind?

[MY85 offline]

Ahem... I have a question. How are the scanners designed to avoid brain damage?

[TB3]

What I ment with the notes was that we each write a paragraph or two and those go in at the front of the essay - a short dedication from each contributor.

As for the STM - I'm thinking of writing that chapter as just coverage of the hardware - it's not likely to be long though as it's mostly hypothetical. The RTTP chapter covering what's going on during that proceedure would be in 'Processes' and would probably be a lot longer.

However if you have an idea of how it could be done better I'm open to it - and I can't wait to wrangle out the pixelisation section and processes in general with you.

Have you noticed that each of us three seem to have an area of expertise?

ME: Hardware
YDV: Software
YOU: Processes

And to Taelia - I don't think they have to close their eyes - it just seems instinctive - after all they are in a very bright space with a wind blowing in their face.

[TB3]

Sorry for the double-post.

Ahem... I have a question. How are the scanners designed to avoid brain damage?

In what sense do you mean 'Brain Damage' i.e. during a virtualisation or a devirtualisation, and physical damage to the brain or to the 'conciousness'?

[MY85 offline]

Sorry for the double-post.

Ahem... I have a question. How are the scanners designed to avoid brain damage?

In what sense do you mean 'Brain Damage' i.e. during a virtualisation or a devirtualisation, and physical damage to the brain or to the 'conciousness'?

Any kind of brain damage, in particular, physical brain damage.

[Taelia offline]

Oh. Thank ya! You really are smart.

[TB3]

Sorry for the double-post.

Ahem... I have a question. How are the scanners designed to avoid brain damage?

In what sense do you mean 'Brain Damage' i.e. during a virtualisation or a devirtualisation, and physical damage to the brain or to the 'conciousness'?

Any kind of brain damage, in particular, physical brain damage.

Well (and I hope the guys don't mind me taking this question), it seems likely the supercomputer stores a back-up file of each kid that is refreshed with each successful loop through the scanners.

So, when the person is devirtualised the computer is also scanning the subject as it reconstructs the body, comparing data with the back-up-file, the data it's building the body from and the scan made when the subject was virtualised. Any flaws detected in the new body are deleted and reconstructed.

That way the chances of brain-damage or bodily damage are severly reduced, but sometimes it can go wrong. For example during 'Vertigo' when 'injecting' her Jeremie would have told the computer to ignore changes to Aelita's celluar structure, therefore when things went wrong he couldn't erase the changes with her back-up file, as it had already been overwritten with the new data.

Hope this helps and that it makes sense. If not just say, and if you have any other questions feel free to ask them.

[Taelia offline]

Could small children, like Hiroki, be placed into the scanners as well?

[TB3]

Could small children, like Hiroki, be placed into the scanners as well?

Yup - size and age aren't an issue - and as long as they can fit in the doors large people such as Jim can be scanned.

[Taelia offline]

I hope Jim can fit. His paunch is a bit too big.

[TB3]

Remember that the Krabbes fitted inside the scanners until they tried to push their way out - therefore when operating the chamber must have a certain ''multidimensional flexibility" allowing large objects to go through. Jim's beer-belly should be easy!

[Taelia offline]

We'll have to test that, then.

[YDV offline]

What I ment with the notes was that we each write a paragraph or two and those go in at the front of the essay - a short dedication from each contributor.

As for the STM - I'm thinking of writing that chapter as just coverage of the hardware - it's not likely to be long though as it's mostly hypothetical. The RTTP chapter covering what's going on during that proceedure would be in 'Processes' and would probably be a lot longer.

However if you have an idea of how it could be done better I'm open to it - and I can't wait to wrangle out the pixelisation section and processes in general with you.

Have you noticed that each of us three seem to have an area of expertise?

ME: Hardware
YDV: Software
YOU: Processes

And to Taelia - I don't think they have to close their eyes - it just seems instinctive - after all they are in a very bright space with a wind blowing in their face.

Yeah, actually I have noticed that. It would be a pretty cool idea to have us each write out a sort of dedication paragraph.

Oh, and TB3-- I'm sorry but this has just been bugging me to no end. Precedures has ONE 'E'. Just one. Not two. *pulls hair out*

Nice answer, BTW. I just noticed it when I was typing this up.. heh.

[TB3]

(glues YDV's hair back in place)

Okay, I'll be sure to spell Precedures correctly . And thanks for the compliment - I can't wait for us to work together on the next section.

[animenologist offline]

By the way, here's the original forward that you typed up a while ago, since you asked, TB3.

Foreword;

"Anything one man can imagine, other men can make real" - Jules Verne.

This text is a record and a monument, a monument to an unsung legacy. Perhaps in time the secrets hid within it's pages can be revealed to the world, in which case one man's genius, and the strength and courage of a select few, might finally be appreciated, that of my friends and family, and even ones who no longer recall their own acts of heroism.

And should we fail, this text is a guideline by which others might take up the fight.

To those who are reading this, the data you are about to view may seem like the stuff of science fiction, or it might reveal the truths beneath the world in which you live. I certainly hope it is the first. If not, then perhaps this can lead you to the answers you seek, and the tools required to usurp XANA, the tyrant we have fought for over a year.

This then, is the legacy of Franz Hopper, and his one and only creation - the phenomenal virtual world of Lyoko.

Jeremie Belpois
Kadic, 2006

As for the dedication, it would be cool to get everyone who has offered a theory or thought into it, beyond those of the main contributors. Like JeremyHopper's original thoughts concerning the Lyoko OS, Reesane had some good ideas concerning a psychological profiling of XANA, and I'm sure others including Vchat20, Osiris, etc have come up with some very nice thoughts, but after 29 pages of discussion, the ideas just seem blur together. Just to give everyone who participated in the discussion a chance to leave a written mark.

[TB3]

Great idea Animenologist and can I use that Oliver Wndell Holmes quote of yours next to the Jules Verne one - it seems perfect for describing this thread and the project.

[animenologist offline]

Go ahead, knock yourself out. Thats actually why I chose to include that quote in my signature. Many times over during this thread, someone puts out an idea, than someone with a different mindset took it and ran with it, leading to more complex thoughts and better understanding. Although the main contributors are experts in their areas, no idea belongs to one person.

[Taelia offline]

So, okay. Lemme get this straight.

Small children like Hiroki (and a little girl whose parents I'm not gonna mention. Shhhh... ) can be sent to Lyoko without any problems? And older folks as well?

In order for these theories to work, we have to test them out. Every good theory must be tested in an experiment, you know.

[TB3]

Well the only tests we have is that Jeremie and Aelita, aged 12, have both been sucessfully scanned, as has Franz Hopper, who looked to be in his mid to late fifties.

I really don't see why age would make any difference.

[Taelia offline]

Me neither. Could animals also be scanned in?

[animenologist offline]

Don't really see any problem with being scanned and transfered. Gas, a hair, and a polymorphic clone has been able to be transferred before with no problem. And if a human can go, I'm sure any animal can go provided the software knows how to scan non-human entities, which if it doesn't, can be programmed. The only major problem I see comes from the devirtualization process, which has been shown to be a very stressful, tiring experience. Put someone very old or very young and devirtualize them can be harmful, just based that idea alone.

[Virus_Xana offline]

What would it take to overload the scanner?

[TB3]

Let's think - the scanners have been able to materialize objects that are larger than themsleves - only they got shattered once they shut down and lost their 'multidimensionality' capability. I think if you tried to materialize something really big (like larger than a car) you might start having problems, but that's just a guess.

And of course the scanners would get totalled.

What I wonder is that if you damaged the scanner software/hardware, specifically for the scanner ring - the scanners might destroy themsleves by sucking themselves through a ZPE rift. Again, just guesswork.

[Taelia offline]

Hmmm...good point.

Are you sure you're doing all this amazing research?