Let's talk tech (Now with Glossary)!

[TB3]

Are you sure you're doing all this amazing research?

Pardon?

[Taelia offline]

Never mind. ^^ By my last question, I was talkin' about Kiwi.

[Osiris offline]

Hmmm...good point.

Are you sure you're doing all this amazing research?

you doubt these great minds! how dare you
(j/k)

[Taelia offline]

I can't wait to see the chapter on the functions of the STM.

[Virus_Xana offline]

yeah they seem pretty smart indeed

[animenologist offline]

Well, we like to think ourselves of moderate intelligence (atleast I do). All our thoughts are an amalgamation of multiple minds thinking on the same subject, in different terms. Sometimes its inspired by outside sources that fits comfortably with the Code: Lyoko universe, and sometimes its taking evidence produced by the show and official material and taking it to its logical conclusion. Either way, we think we got a good grasp on the material, which hopefully our predictions will hold through to the 3rd and 4th season.

[TB3]

Well said my friend.

well guys - here's the STM chapter. It's a but shorter but I hope you guys find it fulfilling - I know I did!

ZERO-POINT-ENGINES III - THE SPACE-TIME-MANIPULATOR

[i][b]“I wanted to destroy the supercomputer, and destroy all the evidence of my activities. That’s when I discovered one of its fascinating properties – Returning to the Past. It gave me all the time I could possibly need to perfect my great project, the only thing that would allow me to escape from my enemies.

It took several days to make the physical modifications to the scanners and write the software to allow the supercomputer to return my consciousness to the past. During that time I worked in constant fear of being discovered, but I succeeded in jumping back a few days.

Much as this discovery saved me however I could not go on hotwiring the scanners to do something they were never designed for, the risk of overloading and loosing them was far too high – I made a few more jumps with it while I designed and prepared virtual blueprints, and then I constructed my dedicated unit, my ‘time-machine.’

My, Space-Time-Manipulatorâ€

[Taelia offline]

COOL! This is so awesome!

[YDV offline]

Ain't it?

Once again, very nice article, TB3. I do have somethign to say though. I was always under the impression that the computer targeted the memories directly at the kids' minds in the past. How else do they "remember" what happened? And also, how would Jeremie's memories be transmitted, if he's not on Lyoko?

[TB3]

In response to YDV - yeah, I used to think the same way as well, but then I thought things through a bit - if an SAP is guided by an electron stream then that stream accelerated to pro-light-speed would create a TAP. Since this is so nice and neat I decided I'd stick with it.

The probelm is, how do you combine the TAP to the past and the SAP to the human mind without the interferance from the two streams ruining everything - I then thought it through some more and it made nice simple sense for the STM to pick up the data in the past and then forward it to the console, which splits the files (human memory files from Lyoko, human memory files from reality, computer memory files), and then triggers off multiple SAPs which transmit memories to the kids. Computer data of course goes straight to the computer.

As for Jeremie - remember the computer tags everyone who interacts with it or an active program and monitors them - more on that later though.

I hope these answers satisfy you, and if not just say and we'll see what we can devise.

[YDV offline]

mmm... I guess. But I'm still not getting the whole "mind-to-computer-without-mind-being-on-computer" thing. I just don't know how it would work, unless they were forever linked to the computer with SAP's that constantly refreshed with every thought, every memory. Or else, wouldn't they just remember what happened, not what they felt while it happened? ehh. I think I'm just nitpicking. It still is a very neat thought.

[Taelia offline]

How would the Space-Time Modulator work if it was set to "Future" instead of "Past"?

[TB3]

True - I'm working on that, but remeber Aelita had a permentant SAP link to the computer for the whole of Season 2 so it can be done - it might also explain why Jeremie never noticed the computer had a permentant link to Aelita if it's normal for them to have one anyway.

Does this work?

EDIT: To Taelia - it can't go to the future - its scientifically accepted that going faster than the speed of light will only reverse time, and going slower than the speed of light means a forward progression (like right now with us - we're travelling in time as we speak). Since the STM relies on these principals to function, travelling forward in time can't be achieved.

If you want the kids to go forward in time,you have to hold them in the computer for that period of time and then scan them back out.

[Taelia offline]

Yup, it *yawn* does.

[TB3]

I've edited my last post to answer your question Taelia, and are you bored or was the yawn just tiredness?

[YDV offline]

I suppose so.. yes. I was going to say something like well, what happened when the computer turns off and its "memory cache" isn't being refreshed by the SAP, and when they launched an RTTP afterwards, would they remember what happened while the computer was off? But then I realized, when the computer is turned back on, the cache is supplied with every memory since the last "refresh," not just the ones currently on the surface of their mind.

Hmm. Okay, so each of the kids' brains/every "tagged" individual's minds are permanently connected to the computer... wait. What if the SAP just runs a quick scan of their thought waves right before/during the RTTP? That way, all their memories are added to the cache in one effiecient swoop, rather than wasting energy and PD power on maintaining a permanent connection. They're recorded to the computer, and then passed along to the STM in the past. And then, like you said, they're added to the past-selves consicoussnesses via multiple-SAP.

I think that oculd worlk...

[Taelia offline]

My yawn was tiredness. But don't worry, I'll stay on for a while.

[DL offline]

TB3 nice essay-thingy on the RTTP. Now why couldn't you explain it like that when you first came up with it. You had all this stuff about worm-holes and all of that and now it uses light-speed (which makes more sense). Lots of revisions must have went into this part; all of which have yeilded the almost perfect explination of the RTTP.

[TB3]

Thanks DL, and the changes came about because yesterday I was trying to think of how to differentiate an SAP from a TAP - I thought they had to be based on the same principal but how come one travels in 3D space while one moves only in time?

Then it hit me (much like it did Hopper I guess, a Eureka moment) - if you travel faster than light in a circle your spatial position stays the same but your temporal one will move back in time.

Now from this idea I have been able to devise a set of principals behind SAPs, TAPs and ZPS in general, and I'm really glad, because before all I could say was - 'these phenomena occur, we don't know why'.

Now however the idea of 'guiding' the SAP/TAP wormhole with electrical charges make sense and fits in well with Jeremie's statement of 'I will guide it by remote control' in 'Tip-Top-Shape.'

I'll have the next chapters up soon because like a well-played game of Tetris, all the pieces are beginning to fit neatly into place - it's almost scary, but it gives me such a buzz!

See ya all soon!

[YDV offline]

Cool then. I can't wait (why do I feel like I keep saying that over and over again.. )

Anyways, I would suppose they do (sort of) make a wormhole of sorts (not in a physical sense, though). Because the point at which one breaks free of one's position in time and the point at which one/an object is reinserted at an earlier point in time could be described as a "wormhole". Except we don't call it wormholes because they aren't really wormholes. They're TAP/SAP entry and exit points.

[TL.]

Good Lord! LTT at the bottom of page 1! *Bumps thread* That’s better!

Again, I have to say this. You lot are f-ing geniuses! Before this glorious thread came to be, we would have been doing this: . With a bit of: , you lot have made sense of it. Well done

[TB3]

Thanks for the bump bro (and no guys - I didn't ask him to do that).

Right, well the next chapter is being written but slowly, because I've being trying to finalise some things in my mind, which I'd like to present for your approval or dissaproval;

THE AFRICANUS SYSTEM (name-in-progress)
Named after Scipio Africanus, the powerful Roman general, this system is one to which we can tie many of the phenomena of the series.

It is in short the system comprising of the supercomputer's modems, and the programs, interfaces and data-streams tying these modems to Carthage, Lyoko and the Console.

There are 80 modems to the system, all interlinked and tied to the supercomputer via the Lyoko Towers - any program run from the tower that operates outside of the computer is executed through the modem. At any one time a tower is linked to two modems - one for input and one for output - however which tower is linked to which modems is variable.

The modems are the points from which all data enters or leaves the computer, the hub for data to/from the scanners, console, STM, security feeds and the outside world etc.

They are also the points from where SAPs are generated, and are thus crucial to XANA's posessions and the retention of memories after an RTTP. They are also the units that track 'tagged' individuals.

They are located in the bottom of the supercalculator ring, organised into 16 banks of 5, and the connecting wires can be seen radiating out from the computer in many screenshots.

One of the programs contained to the Africanus System is the SAP generation program - used by both the kids and XANA - it is also from all the data gathered by Africanus that XANA 'learns', from TV and radio feeds, satalite broadcasts, the internet, phone lines, security cameras, hacked systems and 'monitoring' of human elements via SAP.

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That's a bit of a rushed description and it's fairly weak (even the name is suspect), but I think with a bit of revision this would fit in well with what we've already written.

I look forward to your feedback.

[Taelia offline]

Wow! Excellent job so far! =D

[YDV offline]

Uh. Not that I don't agree with that, but where exactly are thes 36 modems located...? Do you mean modems like literal modems hooked up to phone lines and stuff? I always thought that the Towers were just intergrated into the operating system of Lyoko. I guess it makes sense... but I don't like the idea of them being the points of SAP generation. It was my understainding that SAPs were created by ZPE speeding up charged particles through "the networks," as opposed to the particle accelerator located within the STM for TAPs. Or is that just for Specters?

[TB3]

I thought about it a fair bit - the way I envisioned an SAP working was that it needed to build a large electrical charge in order to create a ZPE rift via the Casimir/Hopper Effect - but in order to get data into that rift you need fibre-optic cables sleathed in Exertanium. The only place you'd find these in the complex would be where Quantum Systems interact with Binary - the point where the supercomputer connects to the outside world - that led me to think of modems.

So - I see it like this;

XANA activates a tower and the affected modem sends off a signal out of the complex - it speeds through the local phone, power and computer networks syphoning off power in small amounts from each - once enough power has been attained it returns to the modem and as soon as a charge of that size zooms through the cluster of Exertanium wires in side the modem BOOM! ZPE rift.

Once the rift has been created the charge continues to travel, now 'guided by remote control' to the desired exit point - as the charge travels the SAP is created along the same path but in ZPS - once the charge has reached the desired location it dissapates and the opposite end of the SAP opens - in 'Tip-Top-Shape' it creates an SAP from a modem to Jeremie's screen.

Back in the modem data can now be fed into the rift through those wires - they're sheilded in Exertanium so they don't get cut by the rift, but the data flowing along them is ripped into the SAP, mutating along the way into routers, which emerge from the exit point and proceed to infect Odd.

Hope this satisfies for now guys and I'll be back with more on this later - I've got a full evening planned but I'll be back around 6/7pm Eastern Time - I'd love to see your responses by then.

And as an aside, LTT is now only two months and eleven days old - we've achieved so much - I'm proud of all of us!