Let's talk tech (Now with Glossary)!

[TB3]

Umm...have you been drinking? There was no virus.

And the afterparty will come...in time. And there will be much drinking of alcohol!

BTW since Ninjaboi posted there have been 1500 views of this - WTF!?

Oh and for the Lyokologists I am working on the article, I've just had to slow down as my university workload is piling up - I have a month's holiday coming up though so I hope to get it finished, printed, copyrighted and posted by the end of that time!

[MY85 offline]

Umm...have you been drinking? There was no virus.

S**t... now I feel pointless. No, I'm not drunk... just frustrated (not by this question)...

[YDV offline]

Umm...have you been drinking? There was no virus.

And the afterparty will come...in time. And there will be much drinking of alcohol!

BTW since Ninjaboi posted there have been 1500 views of this - WTF!?

Oh and for the Lyokologists I am working on the article, I've just had to slow down as my university workload is piling up - I have a month's holiday coming up though so I hope to get it finished, printed, copyrighted and posted by the end of that time!

...That would be nice. @.@ (Because I'm pretty sure they've already gotten everything for the prequel written and are probably producing it already, and we've got to hurry our butts up if we want to have any influence on Saison Trois...)

But then again, you can't rush art.

[darktemplar offline]

Glossary:

SysCall = system call, something like a command put outside one's code to Lyoko(move me, disable gravity for me)

Code = Information that can be understood by Supercomputer processor and treated as a command, thereby executed

Supercomputer = This computer Lyoko resides in

Lyoko = Operating System managing all the applications inside

Process = More in general, an object in Lyoko. A person, knife, a monster, a mountain.

Theory:

Supercomputer's processes can be described by:

Their code
Code mapping to virtual reality[how do they look, why do they have brains in heads, not in legs]
Position[are you on a mountain or down down under]
LoP[Level of Privilenge, the higher the more privilenged calls can processes do]

The code is something like neural networks, while neurons mean single atomic[is done or is not done] instructions(like doing maths or calling system call), encapsulated by Management Protocol, allowing them to send messages to each other[basic principle how neural networks work], repair broken links, etc.

HOW DOES THE THEORY EXPLAIN...

Scanning people into Lyoko:

Scans their organs and composes them as neural networks.

HP:

Neural connections get broken, more false data gets into processing. If you loose all your HP, it means that you network is unable to work due to false informations. It generates General Fault and you're disconnected.

Materialising people:

Neural networks are quite portable =). Just write down their neural networks by composing atoms(smells with higher technology).

Carthage:

Because of a bug in Lyoko, you are allowed to enter higher LoP using an undocumented SysCall[you are absolutely SURE you can walk, you walk using SysCalls, etc.], which allow you to enter hi-LoP areas.


/************** stuff that may not interest you unless you're really into computing **************************\
Heh... LoP's really exist in processors. In Intel, they're rings. Ring 0 is the privilenge level kernel runs on, and 3(last) the programs run on. On Win98/95/ME(XP/2K too, but Microsoft fixes it) it IS possible to get to the Ring0 and for example start Linux =). There were Ring1 and Ring2 but due to Paging memory management, which doesn't support them, they became unused.
\***********************************************************************************************/


World Supervising(the stuff Jeremy does):

Sort of global application directly connected to real world.

Towers:

Towers are really processes with some high LoP's, who can eg. access RTTP.

Activation process is scanning real world into Buffers. They're required to make monsters think realworld is Lyoko because they're incompatible with real world. RTTP is just writing world back from Buffers.

Disactivating towers cut their link down, and they end with having no input. FAILURE/SELFDESTRUCT.

[YDV offline]

...What the heck? Where did that come from?

If you're trying to suggest an opposing theory (although that is quite frankly phenomenally simple in comparison... no offense), I ask if you've read everything we've posted?

Regardless it was confusing. Yes, we know that the Supercomputer is the computer that Lyoko resides in. But what's your point?

RTTP is just writing world back from Buffers.

...Are you joking? Please tell me you're joking.

[darktemplar offline]

Why am I joking? Is it SO bad? I've just written *this* not-so-very-explaining stuff to keep it all consistent, nothing more.

[Ranma Saotome offline]

Man you guys are amazing, being able to think up all this with only the information provided to you from the show (which to me seems to be very little, but hey shows what I know). I've been following this thread for quite a while but didn't start an account on Lyoko Freak unitl just now. I just wanted to appluad you on a amazing job and to say that I look foward to seeing what you do with the information provided in season 3.

[TB3]

Man you guys are amazing, being able to think up all this with only the information provided to you from the show (which to me seems to be very little, but hey shows what I know). I've been following this thread for quite a while but didn't start an account on Lyoko Freak unitl just now. I just wanted to appluad you on a amazing job and to say that I look foward to seeing what you do with the information provided in season 3.

Thanks Ramna - nice to receive thanks for our hard work - and welcome Darktemplar - nice to see new theories, I hope you like ours.

To the Lyokologists (and all you doods who keep an eye on this thread) - university is over now for four weeks for me - so expect a glut of updates as I 'finally' get down to perfecting our final essay.

[YDV offline]

Man you guys are amazing, being able to think up all this with only the information provided to you from the show (which to me seems to be very little, but hey shows what I know). I've been following this thread for quite a while but didn't start an account on Lyoko Freak unitl just now. I just wanted to appluad you on a amazing job and to say that I look foward to seeing what you do with the information provided in season 3.

Thanks Ramna - nice to receive thanks for our hard work - and welcome Darktemplar - nice to see new theories, I hope you like ours.

To the Lyokologists (and all you doods who keep an eye on this thread) - university is over now for four weeks for me - so expect a glut of updates as I 'finally' get down to perfecting our final essay.

YAY! *parties* I'm telling you, we're pushing our deadline here.... >>;

Why am I joking? Is it SO bad? I've just written *this* not-so-very-explaining stuff to keep it all consistent, nothing more.

..It's not that it's SO bad, but it seems so... INCREDIBLY simplistic compared to everything we've already done here in LTT. Not to sound mean or anything, but would you mind reading some of the things we've already come up with in here, before you formulate a ne theory? (I know it's a hefty task, but.... I'm almost positive you'll begin to agree with us.)

Again, I don't mean to hurt your feelings or anything. But we need to save the remaining posts in here towards getting our essay cleaned up, and once we're there, we can start arguing points again.

I'm glad to see you're interested in this, though! Welcome aboard! *performs Newb Lyokologist induction ceremony*

[darktemplar offline]

A blackhole is a vacum that sucks in anything that comes in contact with it but where does the stuff sucked in go?

The stuff is still in the black hole, but extremely compressed.

Did anyone read a wikipedia article on time travel?.

[TB3]

A blackhole is a vacum that sucks in anything that comes in contact with it but where does the stuff sucked in go?

The stuff is still in the black hole, but extremely compressed.

Did anyone read a wikipedia article on time travel?.

Never read it (until now), but I'm very familiar with the basic theories of time-travel - we're working with an extension of the theory of relativity in LTT - i.e. accelerate beyond the speed of light and you move backwards in time - in reality faster-than-light travel is deemed impossible, so the event takes place in a paralell universe we devised called ZERO-POINT SPACE where the laws of conventional physics do not apply - this might sound ludicrous, but there is a lot of evidence to support its existence in the show.

[YDV offline]

Right. ^-^ (Although I'm a total SF freak and I want people to be traversin' teh galaxy so I very RELUCTANTLY accept that FTL is not possible. >>;.)

[darktemplar offline]

And I like it... I think some stuff just cannot be done...

Function of speed to delta time from c equals to 0, doesn't it?

So what it it exceeds it ? Time is more "slower" than "the slowest"(still)? Or are we generating minus dilation? I don't think so, so I'm in opposition of this FTL theory.

[TB3]

And I like it... I think some stuff just cannot be done...

Function of speed to delta time from c equals to 0, doesn't it?

So what it it exceeds it ? Time is more "slower" than "the slowest"(still)? Or are we generating minus dilation? I don't think so, so I'm in opposition of this FTL theory.

Basic relativity states that if one travels faster than light one 'overlaps' the light rays in the universe which denote the passage of time (it's also mentioned in the Wikipedia article you linked to) - therefore if one achieves this speed and travels in a circular orbit, one will move backwards in time but remain in a single location - we suggest this is what occurs during the RTTP. For more details feel free to PM me as I don't want to waste the few posts this thread has left - it will be locked at 1000.

EDIT: I was highly amused just now to see that LTT's influence is spreading - while poking around on a Code: Lyoko WIKI I found a reference to the Space-Time-Manipulator - cool.

[YDV offline]

And I like it... I think some stuff just cannot be done...

Function of speed to delta time from c equals to 0, doesn't it?

So what it it exceeds it ? Time is more "slower" than "the slowest"(still)? Or are we generating minus dilation? I don't think so, so I'm in opposition of this FTL theory.

Oh, come now. This is protoscience, and the show itself is for all intents and purposes science FICTION. You've got to take your chances with a few things.

And yeah, I agree with what TB3 said, and let's keep the posts to a minimum. (LTT2 names...? Anyone...?)

Haha, that's awesome! ...You think we should take this to a professor or something as well to see if we're not absolutely crazy? ^^;

[TB3]

Hi guys - just a quick update. The essay is on hold for a short while - my time is now swallowed up university unfortunately but I continue to work on - I'm sorry if I've let the group down.

The other thing I have to say regards YDV's post above - would it sound insane if we sent our ideas on ZPE etc off to an eminent scientist for criticism or approval? The reason I ask is that I discovered Stephen Hawking's website invites viewers to send emails to him, and since he's a Trekkie he might enjoy our bit of sci-fi postulating - the odds are that if we did this he wouldn't reply, but if he DID...well, it would be pretty d*mn cool, and if our essay had the subtitle 'Endorsed by Stephen Hawking', then...well I'll leave it to your imaginations.

That said, it's a pretty childish notion, but it might be worth taking.

[Cassius335 offline]

You haven't let anyone down.

Stephen Hawking? Not sure we have time to get the endorsement and THEN send it to Moonscoop/Antefilms, but it might be worth seeing what he thinks.

[YDV offline]

Right. I think we should send it to Moonscoop ASAP. Like.... now, pretty much. But we still have some cleanup to do. >>;

It would be cool though if we got it endorsed by Stephen Hawking... Hmm.... xD;; Wouldn't it be hilarious if we got like a Nobel Prize or something?

[TB3]

Hi guys - just something small and new.

I had a brainwave as to what Exertanium could be: what if it was simply a copy of the molecular structure of an existing superconductor, but replicated at room temperature.

Here's how I see it:

Franz uses his prototype scanner (made from conventional superconductors and chilled to freezing temperatures) to scan in it's own data - i.e the molecular structure of the metal in a superconductive state.

This data he then modifies and feeds back into the scanners, replicating the superconductive metal, but in such a manner that it retains superconductivity at room temperature.

And what superconductor would he base it off?



This is Niobium-Tin, a Type-2 superconductor developed in 1954 - and it looks very, very familiar

Hehe, when this thread is locked, I'll start Thread Two: Let's Talk Tech: Hopperian Physics

PS: I'm just about to send this off to Stephen Hawking;

Dear Professor Hawking

My name is Rhys Davies, a 19-year-old student of literature at Lancaster University with a taste for both science-fiction and science-fact, and an admiration of the efforts you have made to deciphering the mysteries of the universe.

In recent years, I have developed a love of 'Star Trek' and subsequently read as many books on the subject as possible - one was 'The Physics of Star Trek' which you penned a marvellous foreword for. I was touched by the spirit and word of that foreword, that it is these 'impossible' technologies which allow us to dream and strive for a brighter future.

The thing about Star Trek that so fascinates me is the 'realism' of the technology i.e. - we accept faster-than-light travel is impossible, so we'll warp space-time instead - though impractical, it works out on paper as a logical solution, and thus lends to itself a certain credibility, and the same goes for replicators, matter/antimatter annihalators, deflectors, phasers etc. All implausible/impossible, but compelling through the thought and detail that went into them.

Myself and a group of other like-minded teenagers on the internet have tried to apply this same principal of 'logical impossibility' to the technology of a science-fiction cartoon we share a love of, 'Code: Lyoko', which deals with matter/energy conversion, quantum computers and physics, wormholes and time-travel and yet offers no explanation for how this is achieved.

The end result of our efforts (for which we have had to study the show and the works of Schrodinger, Heisenberg, Dirac, Casimir, Einstein and yourself to name but a few sources) is a 40,000 word essay that we are in the act of refining. We plan to send a copy off to the producers later this year, through contacts we have with them. Our ideas hinge on fictional concepts, such as a plane of existance similar to the Dirac Sea we call 'Zero-Point-Space', but around these we have strived to build a coherant and rational set of principles and technologies.

Would it be possible at all, if you could provide us with a small paragraph that we could use in our essau as a foreword - one to the same effect as the one you penned for 'The Physics of Star Trek' - such a backing from the gentleman regarded as the most intelligent man in the world would, we feel, greatly improve our chances of getting our efforts, theories and speculations recognised by the creators of a television show that we love.

I realise that what I have just said might come across as incredibly rude - my apologies sir if that is the case, and I never intended to offend you. I also understand that our request is extremely trivial and understand fully if we never recieve a reply to this, you are a busy man much in the demand of far greater causes and minds than our own, but we consider it an honour to have had this fleeting contact with you.

In good faith

Rhys Byron Davies
and
The Lyokologists

I really must be insane, but I'm hoping for the best.

[Chosen_one offline]

I think that Code Lyoko turned out to be more mature than it was intended to be. If you look at Moonscoop's website, Code Lyoko is targeted for kids 6-14. With little kids' shows, it's usually that technology such as Lyoko are meant to perform impossible functions with no explanation, simply because in a little kid's mind, everything will be possible in the future.

[Cassius335 offline]

I really must be insane, but I'm hoping for the best.

Did you include the essay with that?

Either way, here's hoping.

[Chosen_one offline]

So mighty TB3, when virtualised, why and how does the person in question gain weapons, different clothing and a tail. Personally, I think that they create accounts to use Lyoko and 'choose' their abilities and appearance like on when users join online games like 'Matrix Online' and 'City of Heroes'

Somebody's probably already said this, but in Frontier, Jeremie mentioned that before transfer, he enters in the parameters of the lyokon's body. So the operator must create a digital avatar every time someone goes to Lyoko or save it in a CD or XANA's ROM. My guess is that during every transfer, the lyokon's body is destroyed and stored as energy inside prehaps a diode or capacitor of XANA's RAM. The scanners scan for the lyokon's DNA sequence code, and that alone. It is used to recreate the lyokon's body during materialization from the energy stored in XANA's RAM. A digital AI entity is created according to the operator's parameters.

[TL.]

How would have thought that post was the first response to a soon to be great thread. I thought it would out quickly. I was so wrong. Now we're after endorsement from Stephen Hawking!? All we need after that is a black cheque book and an army of techies

[TB3]

Somebody's probably already said this, but in Frontier, Jeremie mentioned that before transfer, he enters in the parameters of the lyokon's body. So the operator must create a digital avatar every time someone goes to Lyoko or save it in a CD or XANA's ROM. My guess is that during every transfer, the lyokon's body is destroyed and stored as energy inside prehaps a diode or capacitor of XANA's RAM. The scanners scan for the lyokon's DNA sequence code, and that alone. It is used to recreate the lyokon's body during materialization from the energy stored in XANA's RAM. A digital AI entity is created according to the operator's parameters.

Hehe, you pretty much whacked the nail on the head, but we have a few developments on your points.

Re. The energy - yup, capacitors, but the energy released from a human body is phenomenol (e=mc2), so it requires a massive set of capacitors to store the charge, much larger than the supercomputer and thus not part of the RAM.

Re. XANA -I think you're suggesting XANA and the computer are one and the same - we kinda tossed that idea out long ago, not to sound rude.

Re. Jeremie - the console stores a record of the combat avatars, but Jeremie has to configure those for each scan before the process begins.

Re. the scanners - yup, they pick up the DNA sequence code, but most of the data collected is actually a molecular scan of the body - DNA does not record things such as height, build, age etc, so the molecular data from the scan is as essential as the DNA.

Cheers Chosen One!

[Jeremified offline]

Okay, just to clarify something:

Superconductors need to be at nearly 0 degrees Kelvin to work. The point of this is to reduce electric current resistance to almost 0 Ohms. What should we do to achieve that?