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Who don't you like?

Yumi
5
12%
Jeremie
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10%
Odd
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Aelita
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2%
Ulrich
2
5%
Sissy
4
10%
Jim
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7%
William
14
34%
Other
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20%
 
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Postby emoBillâ„¢ » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:29 pm

Now that I think about it, he was close in 'Swarming Attack'... but Yumi kinda didn't understand ^^;
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Postby Rail Runner » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:31 pm

Yumi probably didnt understand, as she has a tendancy to do once in a while.
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Postby Chiquita » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:03 pm

I was alseep once and my mom said something about somebody speeding on the road making someone's alarm go off. I thought it was a dream when my mom saaid somethinga bout it again.

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Postby Rail Runner » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:04 pm

I really dislike Jim sometimes...snooping around and what not, he got jeremy hurt, and thats just not cool.
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Postby Darkness Incarnate » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:34 pm

If you think about it someone has to do it, I mean really can kids who are always up to something go unseen by all of the adults all the time. Someone would have to see them, they cut class,disapper then pop back up later.
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Postby Rail Runner » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:40 pm

true, but he was doing it wayyy too often. once or twice is ok..but dont nag on a certain aspect of what is going on. There are limits as to how much you can snoop without putting people in danger like that.
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Postby emoBillâ„¢ » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:15 pm

Well he didn't mean to hurt Jeremie... I just like how he acted in Code: Earth, he was so kawaii ^_^ and fighting for the students in 'False Start', that was cute!
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Postby Rail Runner » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:20 pm

I do have to admit, it was cool that he did that, I guess cuz he realized that what they were doing really was important, and I think his attitude changed slightly after that, even with the RTTP.

But still, he can be a rude guy sometimes, maybe he was raised that way I have no clue.
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Postby emoBillâ„¢ » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:24 pm

I think it's cuz the kids are always so mean to him, and he was probably raised with very strict parents.
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Postby Rail Runner » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:29 pm

I guess I sorta dislike Jim because he has like this strict Im the boss type of attitude..but why do they place him in charge of all of these things, when he is a P.E. teacher. I find it weird how he just shows up outta thin air in the dorms sometimes...its kinda creepy.
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Postby Mewberries151 » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:09 pm

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Darkness Incarnate wrote:I hate Ulrich really there a very nice very sweet and hot girl who likes him and whom he likes as well but will not say anything to her. I know thr reason they are not together has something to do with the plot but come on. It would be alot better if they put them together then had stuff happen to change there relationship, that would be better then the two of there leading each other on like they are doing.


I honestly think there relationship seems just fine. As a Y/U fan, I would love nothing more than to see them "kiss, hug, marry, etc."....but I don't believe in "rushing a relationship", especially when the couple in question are only 13 and 14. That usually ends in disaster and I think Yumi and Ulrich are actually rather intelligent to take things slow, especially since they do not have 24 hours a day to devote to each other and their relationship. XANA is still an ever present threat, let's not forget.

Plus...Ulrich has tried numerous times to tell her, but has either gotten interupted or distracted. And yes, while this may be for some extent of plot device, it's not his fault that Jeremie insists on calling him at a bad time or that William has the uncanny ability to walk in whenever Ulrich tries to tell Yumi his feelings.

Also...Ulrich's last brush with truly telling Yumi his feelings face to face, did not go so well. "Swarming Attack"...he honestly tried and he actually succeeded...unfortunately...Yumi hadn't written that letter. I can't quite blame him for being nervous about going through that again. Plus...I get the feeling that Ulrich doesn't want to rush Yumi (which William seems to have issues with in contrast). Like I said, rushing things in a relationship is not a very good thing to do sometimes. ^^;

I get what you are saying but you have to admit when two people like each other like they do sooner or later they will get together but its been about a year and ahalf. I just want to see how them being together will change things and I think they are over do.


Yes, I'd love to see them together too, but whether or not they are "overdue" is not really something that exists in a relationship. Some couples more more slowly than others. It depends on the situation, the type of people involved, and in some sense, their maturity.

We don't know how much time has passed between from when Yumi and Ulrich met up until the present (or even for how long they've had feelings for each other, although Ulrich certainly understood his more or less by "Swarming Attack"). Things like relationships can take time...to use another cartoon couple, just look at Kim and Ron of the Disney cartoon, Kim Possible. They'd known each other since preschool.

Besides, if the creators and writers "rush" any confession or relationship on those two, it'll feel "rushed". All of us Y/U fans want the moment to be well-orchestrated and beautiful, and believable. I'd love to see them confess their feelings and be happy together...but I'd rather they do it later than sooner, if it meant a more convincing and truly memorable scene.

This is why I like Cold War so much. That was raw emotion and desperation, which was part of the reason as to why it had so much power and beauty to it.

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Aelita wrote:Now that I think about it, he was close in 'Swarming Attack'... but Yumi kinda didn't understand ^^;
Yumi probably didnt understand, as she has a tendancy to do once in a while.


Yumi didn't know what Ulrich was talking about. Ulrich had told Odd and Jeremie not to tell her about the letter. And then when he confessed to her...he was terribly vague. All he said was:

"In your letter...you said you had certain feelings for me...and I want to tell you that...I feel the same way too. There I said it."

Yumi didn't know what letter he was talking about since she didn't write it and Odd and Jeremie said nothing of it. She didn't know if another girl had written anonymously (and Ulrich had mistaken it for her), or anything of the contents of the note. There's all kinds of possibilities that could have been true of that note, its contents and its author. Yumi doesn't always jump to conclusions nor make assumptions about things without a good understanding of it...so of course she didn't in this case. It just unfortunately didn't work out so well for Ulrich. *sweatdrop*
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Postby Chiquita » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:14 am

Poor guy.....now that WIlliam came along you could call Ulrich a beggar!

But Jim is...just Jim....can't blame him. People ignore mea all of the time but it doesn't stop me from being the nicest person on the block. (Or Farm land....)
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Postby 360 Vision » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:20 am

I don't know Why, But I hate all of them. The only reason I like it is for the Storyline.

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Postby Mewberries151 » Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:49 am

god of darkness wrote:I don't know Why, But I hate all of them. The only reason I like it is for the Storyline.


That doesn't make alot of sense...a storyline exists because of the characters in it. Use different characters and you've got a completely different storyline. They're very much intertwined.

Unless, of course, you're saying that you just like the idea of a virtual universe existing somewhere that connects to the real world and in which humans can transport themselves too and fight evil in. If this is the case...I'd suggest you also check out the movie Tron, as well as shows like any of the .Hack// series and Reboot.

Chiquita wrote:Poor guy.....now that WIlliam came along you could call Ulrich a beggar!


Well...not exactly...at least to me, anyway. Ulrich honestly doesn't have to defend himself against William in any way really or make any sort of plea for Yumi's affections. Yumi already loves him obviously and has chosen him over William already (as William himself has said and as Yumi demonstrated in numerous episodes, "New Order", "A Bad Turn", "The Key"). Now this is not to say that Ulrich should simply sit back and relax and not bothering telling Yumi his feelings over stop showing his outright affection for her which would be completely rude...but he should relax a little about William, just as Yumi seems to have relaxed about Sissi.

Ulrich only thinks he does (although maybe not so much anymore), because William poses the exact same sort of annoyance to him that Sissi used to be to Yumi. Honestly...if the both of them were to mutually come to terms with the fact that they both have chosen each other over everyone else, and that nothing William or Sissi try to do against them can't break that love and care they have for each other, they'd never have to worry about anyone trying to break them up.

*looks at her paragraph* Yeesh...am I ever going really deep into this. ^^; Ah well...I love Y/U (and Yumi and Ulrich as individuals). ^.^
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Postby Skorpigeist » Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:57 am

god of darkness wrote:I don't know Why, But I hate all of them. The only reason I like it is for the Storyline.


To each thier own I guess, but like mewberries said a character and a storyline is so entertwined that in order to watch a Show I feel you would have to like the characters at least a majority of the time. Because if you don't like the characters, then what is the point?

As for your paragraphs mewberries, I really enjoy the analysis and thought that you put in behind it. the only thing I won't to comment on is how long Ulrich has known Yumi. It is at least as long as Jeremie has known Aelita. Teddygozilla leaves the impression that they have been doing this (as in fighting Xanna) for at least the greater portion of a year. Sice Sissi has known Ulrich since 4th grade or so, I also get the impression yumi shows up into the picture at least a year later. of course these are only my impressions and we must wait for the facts to show how long they have known each other :)

agian I must say that to me a dislike of a character comes in certian situations and hence why I like Code Lyoko so much, the characters, while able to be well liked, are realistic in that they have faults and even treat each other like i see people in school treat each other.
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Postby Rail Runner » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:14 am

My dislike of Jim and William is only when they threaten to change things too much too soon. If things change over time, then cool..but its like they are trying too hard too force their hand. I dont dislike Sissy as much as I used to because of the fact that she has chilled out some, shes not trying as hard as she used to.
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Postby Mewberries151 » Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:41 pm

Skorpigeist wrote:As for your paragraphs mewberries, I really enjoy the analysis and thought that you put in behind it. the only thing I won't to comment on is how long Ulrich has known Yumi. It is at least as long as Jeremie has known Aelita. Teddygozilla leaves the impression that they have been doing this (as in fighting Xanna) for at least the greater portion of a year. Sice Sissi has known Ulrich since 4th grade or so, I also get the impression yumi shows up into the picture at least a year later. of course these are only my impressions and we must wait for the facts to show how long they have known each other :)


:blush: Aww! That's really kind of you to say! ^_^

You make a really good point. We don't know how long they've all known each other with the exception of how long Sissi has known Ulrich (since kindergarden as referenced in "Marabounta") and how long the group has more or less known Aelita (one year at "The Trap", and likely two years or one and a half by season 2). How long Yumi and Ulrich have known each other, as well as how long they've all known each other, is a complete mystery (which will apparently be revealed in season 3). That will finally put all discussion to rest about who's known who for how long.

I'm rather excited and definitely curious to see how they all met. I've seen a few theories (and I have some of my own), but I'd really like to see the creator's original intentions. :)

Virtualized STI wrote:My dislike of Jim and William is only when they threaten to change things too much too soon. If things change over time, then cool..but its like they are trying too hard too force their hand. I dont dislike Sissy as much as I used to because of the fact that she has chilled out some, shes not trying as hard as she used to.


I almost completely agree with that. Forcing one's way into a friendship with someone or into someone's life (and prying at their secrets) is really rather inconsiderate.

That's why I'd say that overall...for me, I only dislike characters when they act like that or in any other overly odious fashion. Again with the exception of TV...stealing blankets from little kids to save yourself is just not cool. ^^
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Postby Chiquita » Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:38 pm

TV was funny, his "movie" director slapped him....(boy did he deserve that)

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Postby Darkborn » Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:43 pm

To tell you the truth, I really don't like Ulrich. When Odd isn't around he tries to be funny, but fails. I think he has the weakest advantage on Lyoko. (Meele vs Ranged) He additude ticks me off. I swear, he's one step closer to being Emo.
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Postby Skorpigeist » Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:53 pm

Mewberries151 wrote:
Skorpigeist wrote:As for your paragraphs mewberries, I really enjoy the analysis and thought that you put in behind it. the only thing I won't to comment on is how long Ulrich has known Yumi. It is at least as long as Jeremie has known Aelita. Teddygozilla leaves the impression that they have been doing this (as in fighting Xanna) for at least the greater portion of a year. Sice Sissi has known Ulrich since 4th grade or so, I also get the impression yumi shows up into the picture at least a year later. of course these are only my impressions and we must wait for the facts to show how long they have known each other :)


:blush: Aww! That's really kind of you to say! ^_^

You make a really good point. We don't know how long they've all known each other with the exception of how long Sissi has known Ulrich (since kindergarden as referenced in "Marabounta") and how long the group has more or less known Aelita (one year at "The Trap", and likely two years or one and a half by season 2). How long Yumi and Ulrich have known each other, as well as how long they've all known each other, is a complete mystery (which will apparently be revealed in season 3). That will finally put all discussion to rest about who's known who for how long.

I'm rather excited and definitely curious to see how they all met. I've seen a few theories (and I have some of my own), but I'd really like to see the creator's original intentions. :)



and what would these theories be exactly?
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Postby Jellybean <33 » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:00 pm

How can you people not like William? He's so cute!

Hmm...Aelita. I dont hate her, but she is the least liked in my book *dodges missiles*

Her naivete drives me crazy and something about her helplessness makes me feel as though her character is severely lacking. She is the epitome of innocence, and she doesn't make it cute >__>;;

I'm probably going to be cyber-murdered for this, but she has little of my respect. I don't hate her. I just like everyone else more.
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Postby Lani » Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:03 pm

m0rganIS<3 wrote:How can you people not like William? He's so cute!

Hmm...Aelita. I dont hate her, but she is the least liked in my book *dodges missiles*


We think alike... xDD Agreed on both sentences... O:

William is teh hawt... I know I'll sound shallow but he's like... William xD;;;
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Postby knifey » Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:01 am

Darkborn wrote:To tell you the truth, I really don't like Ulrich. When Odd isn't around he tries to be funny, but fails. I think he has the weakest advantage on Lyoko. (Meele vs Ranged) He additude ticks me off. I swear, he's one step closer to being Emo.

Its good to know I'm not alone :). But even if he does have the weakest advantage on Lyoko he's still the strongest out of the four, he took out about 3 megatanks in "Contact".
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Postby Chiquita » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:25 am

Yea and usually Odd takes them out.
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Postby Mewberries151 » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:38 am

Skorpigeist wrote:
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Skorpigeist wrote:As for your paragraphs mewberries, I really enjoy the analysis and thought that you put in behind it. the only thing I won't to comment on is how long Ulrich has known Yumi. It is at least as long as Jeremie has known Aelita. Teddygozilla leaves the impression that they have been doing this (as in fighting Xanna) for at least the greater portion of a year. Sice Sissi has known Ulrich since 4th grade or so, I also get the impression yumi shows up into the picture at least a year later. of course these are only my impressions and we must wait for the facts to show how long they have known each other :)


:blush: Aww! That's really kind of you to say! ^_^

You make a really good point. We don't know how long they've all known each other with the exception of how long Sissi has known Ulrich (since kindergarden as referenced in "Marabounta") and how long the group has more or less known Aelita (one year at "The Trap", and likely two years or one and a half by season 2). How long Yumi and Ulrich have known each other, as well as how long they've all known each other, is a complete mystery (which will apparently be revealed in season 3). That will finally put all discussion to rest about who's known who for how long.

I'm rather excited and definitely curious to see how they all met. I've seen a few theories (and I have some of my own), but I'd really like to see the creator's original intentions. :)



and what would these theories be exactly?


Well...alot of the theories can be found in fanfics or on this site on various threads. As for my own...eh, it's not really a full theory yet, anyway. More of a fanfic idea, if anything. ^^; If you really want to know I'll post it on one of the threads that deals with the "prequel" or something. :)

Chiquita wrote:TV was funny, his "movie" director slapped him....(boy did he deserve that)

"No sleeping!"


Actually...that was his camerawoman. TV was the director and host, I believe. That lady was just his camera person, which is why he could fire her so easily. ^^

Oh and just out of curiousity...why does everyone think Ulrich's "emo"? He doesn't fit that definition at all to me.... ^^;
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