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by Taelia » Sat May 13, 2006 9:19 pm
I decided to start LCC, or Let's Chat Characters, thanks to a suggestion in one of TB3's threads.
by JeremysGirl » Sat May 13, 2006 11:19 pm
Jeremie.
Ohana means family. Family means no one gets left behind or forgotten.-Lilo and Stitch
Virtualization!-Jeremie
Microsoft, aka X.A.N.A.
Forcast for Lyoko: Mostly sunny with a 90% chance of X.A.N.A.
Listen to your librarian, she knows her sources.
Virtualization!-Jeremie
Microsoft, aka X.A.N.A.
Forcast for Lyoko: Mostly sunny with a 90% chance of X.A.N.A.
Listen to your librarian, she knows her sources.
by Skysong » Sat May 13, 2006 11:51 pm
I don't know about an essay... but here's my two cents.
Jeremie is *not* a nerd. He's shy. While he may be smart and bookish, he's shown on numerous occasions that he will do anything to protect his friends and Aelita. He prefers books and computers to people because, let's face it. He's thirteen and he has a near-perfect grade average and an IQ probably in the 140s (120 and up means you are very, very smart). He thinks that computer code and math problems are easier to deal with than people, because they treat geniuses differently.
His relationship with Aelita is a very good thing, because they balance each other out. Both of them are very smart, but Aelita is happy and outgoing. She makes Jeremie have a life, basically. Their personalities clash at times, but that's mostly because of Aelita's savior complex and Jeremie's protectiveness. However, he really does love her, and those two will probably stay together.
Jeremie is *not* a nerd. He's shy. While he may be smart and bookish, he's shown on numerous occasions that he will do anything to protect his friends and Aelita. He prefers books and computers to people because, let's face it. He's thirteen and he has a near-perfect grade average and an IQ probably in the 140s (120 and up means you are very, very smart). He thinks that computer code and math problems are easier to deal with than people, because they treat geniuses differently.
His relationship with Aelita is a very good thing, because they balance each other out. Both of them are very smart, but Aelita is happy and outgoing. She makes Jeremie have a life, basically. Their personalities clash at times, but that's mostly because of Aelita's savior complex and Jeremie's protectiveness. However, he really does love her, and those two will probably stay together.
Mistress of madness and all that jazz. FFN account DA account
Panel from Wild Child 'cause the nosekiss was getting too weird.
Panel from Wild Child 'cause the nosekiss was getting too weird.
by Skiiran Lord » Sun May 14, 2006 4:34 am
Jeremie not a nerd? Pssh...
I would define Jeremie under the made up classification of Nerdius Obsesserendus, which I made up because it sounds cool. Using careful fossil records, we can trace his lineage all the way back the the first Gnerds of the 1940s. Educate yourself on the Gnerd:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gnerd
Of course, by now he's transcended that.
Now, this is not to say that he's in any way similar to the classification Sapiens Nerdius Gameraticus*, nor is he in any way similar to the more typical Nerdicus Nerdicus Sapiens. His closest relatives today are the Nerdius Coderaticus, which is where he get's his 1337 h4x0r skillz.
*-Not, as of yet, 100% considered a species of Nerd; the general consensus is that a nerd can be a gamer, but a gamer isn't neccessarily a nerd.
Now, as a CHARACTER:
Most definitely he is stubborn, and questioning, but, on the other side of the coin, he's been able to keep the secret of Lyoko for longer than probably most of the rest of the gang (discluding Aelita and Mr. Hopper, of course). He can also be deeply caring of people, as displayed by his love for Aelita. One way you could see it as, is that you can trust him, but unless you're part of the original gang, he will never completely trust you.
We've also seen he has a tendancy to rush into things, such as materializing Aelita. He had the means, he had the opportunity, he had the power, so why not do it? Well, because officially, Aelita doesn't exist, as Yumi pointed out. This also means that because of his tendancy to rush, he often doesn't figure out plans entirely through before pressing the two keys in Nevada**
**-Is reference to U.S. Nuke Silos, they need the consent of two users to launch, both of which turn two keys.
Also, his stubbornness has caused him to push himself to his very limits without telling anyone, thus causing him pain.
I'll add more later, once I know exactly what episodes I'm reffering to (don't pause to blurt them out).
I would define Jeremie under the made up classification of Nerdius Obsesserendus, which I made up because it sounds cool. Using careful fossil records, we can trace his lineage all the way back the the first Gnerds of the 1940s. Educate yourself on the Gnerd:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gnerd
Of course, by now he's transcended that.
Now, this is not to say that he's in any way similar to the classification Sapiens Nerdius Gameraticus*, nor is he in any way similar to the more typical Nerdicus Nerdicus Sapiens. His closest relatives today are the Nerdius Coderaticus, which is where he get's his 1337 h4x0r skillz.
*-Not, as of yet, 100% considered a species of Nerd; the general consensus is that a nerd can be a gamer, but a gamer isn't neccessarily a nerd.
Now, as a CHARACTER:
Most definitely he is stubborn, and questioning, but, on the other side of the coin, he's been able to keep the secret of Lyoko for longer than probably most of the rest of the gang (discluding Aelita and Mr. Hopper, of course). He can also be deeply caring of people, as displayed by his love for Aelita. One way you could see it as, is that you can trust him, but unless you're part of the original gang, he will never completely trust you.
We've also seen he has a tendancy to rush into things, such as materializing Aelita. He had the means, he had the opportunity, he had the power, so why not do it? Well, because officially, Aelita doesn't exist, as Yumi pointed out. This also means that because of his tendancy to rush, he often doesn't figure out plans entirely through before pressing the two keys in Nevada**
**-Is reference to U.S. Nuke Silos, they need the consent of two users to launch, both of which turn two keys.
Also, his stubbornness has caused him to push himself to his very limits without telling anyone, thus causing him pain.
I'll add more later, once I know exactly what episodes I'm reffering to (don't pause to blurt them out).
Watch the book, the page is turning - how the tale unfolds
Inside every cancered spectre,
inside-outside find your own
God's aloft, the winds are raging - God's aloft, the winds are cold
-Piggy Pig Pig, by Procol Harum
Inside every cancered spectre,
inside-outside find your own
God's aloft, the winds are raging - God's aloft, the winds are cold
-Piggy Pig Pig, by Procol Harum
by JeremysGirl » Sun May 14, 2006 11:43 am
Jeremie's a nerd, but a cool nerd. He's sweet, caring, shy, and willing to sacrifice himself for his friends.
Ohana means family. Family means no one gets left behind or forgotten.-Lilo and Stitch
Virtualization!-Jeremie
Microsoft, aka X.A.N.A.
Forcast for Lyoko: Mostly sunny with a 90% chance of X.A.N.A.
Listen to your librarian, she knows her sources.
Virtualization!-Jeremie
Microsoft, aka X.A.N.A.
Forcast for Lyoko: Mostly sunny with a 90% chance of X.A.N.A.
Listen to your librarian, she knows her sources.
by Skiiran Lord » Sun May 14, 2006 2:53 pm
*puts on Gears of War Helmet to look cool* Eggzacry.
Watch the book, the page is turning - how the tale unfolds
Inside every cancered spectre,
inside-outside find your own
God's aloft, the winds are raging - God's aloft, the winds are cold
-Piggy Pig Pig, by Procol Harum
Inside every cancered spectre,
inside-outside find your own
God's aloft, the winds are raging - God's aloft, the winds are cold
-Piggy Pig Pig, by Procol Harum
by Carth » Sun May 14, 2006 3:31 pm
Oooo...I'm not good with these kinds of threads. I tried to go to XANADU...I got halfway down the first page before I went insane. Such is the sad fate I succombed to.
Don't even mention Let's Talk Tech...*shudders* You guys do it all you want, it's not for me.
But I'll try this.
Lesee...Jeremie. I think he's trying to be made out by the creators to fit the stereotype of 'nerd' (if he wasn't, he wouldn't have glasses, or a midpubescent voice). However, as all humans do, he does transcend stereotype-his character allows for variable. I think.
On another point- in the manner of Robin to Slade in TT, Jeremie's work can often become an obsession, to the point of alienation of friends as seen in Temptation (y'know what's funny? The Slade obsession complex in TT has at least 3,000 fanfictions on it, and the XANA obsession complex maybe one or two.). And like Robin, this obsession can cloud judgement, causing him to make careless mistakes one would not expect him to make. This makes him human-nobody is perfect, we all have a weakness.
And...I can't think of any more rambling. Wow.
Don't even mention Let's Talk Tech...*shudders* You guys do it all you want, it's not for me.
But I'll try this.
Lesee...Jeremie. I think he's trying to be made out by the creators to fit the stereotype of 'nerd' (if he wasn't, he wouldn't have glasses, or a midpubescent voice). However, as all humans do, he does transcend stereotype-his character allows for variable. I think.
On another point- in the manner of Robin to Slade in TT, Jeremie's work can often become an obsession, to the point of alienation of friends as seen in Temptation (y'know what's funny? The Slade obsession complex in TT has at least 3,000 fanfictions on it, and the XANA obsession complex maybe one or two.). And like Robin, this obsession can cloud judgement, causing him to make careless mistakes one would not expect him to make. This makes him human-nobody is perfect, we all have a weakness.
And...I can't think of any more rambling. Wow.
by Lani » Sun May 14, 2006 3:35 pm
This isn't about Jeremie, but about Yumi, and in the end this may have nothing to do with anyting at all and I'm just thinking too hard xD; But anyway.
Sometimes, when a Japansese person speaks slowly, they'll break their sentences up and end each segment on a higher note... I can't really explain it, but take the sentence "Kumiko is at school." In Japanese that's "Kumiko wa gakkou ni imasu." What they'll sometimes do is take each part and then end it on a high note, start back down, end the second part on a high note, then end on a lower note. Does that make sense...? It'd be like "Kumiko wa^ [pause] gakkou ni^ [pause] imasu.v" If that doesn't make sense I'll try to do like a voice sample...
But what I noticed is that near the beginning of S1, Yumi kind of speaks like that. xD; Like, take the sentence "What if XANA attacks, and there's no one here to take care of it?" She would say it like "What if XANA attacks^, and there's no one here to take care of it?" She drops this habit as the show goes on of course >>;;
And like I said it's probably just the voice acting and I'm thinking to hard xD;;
Sometimes, when a Japansese person speaks slowly, they'll break their sentences up and end each segment on a higher note... I can't really explain it, but take the sentence "Kumiko is at school." In Japanese that's "Kumiko wa gakkou ni imasu." What they'll sometimes do is take each part and then end it on a high note, start back down, end the second part on a high note, then end on a lower note. Does that make sense...? It'd be like "Kumiko wa^ [pause] gakkou ni^ [pause] imasu.v" If that doesn't make sense I'll try to do like a voice sample...
But what I noticed is that near the beginning of S1, Yumi kind of speaks like that. xD; Like, take the sentence "What if XANA attacks, and there's no one here to take care of it?" She would say it like "What if XANA attacks^, and there's no one here to take care of it?" She drops this habit as the show goes on of course >>;;
And like I said it's probably just the voice acting and I'm thinking to hard xD;;
we will advance with sword in hand
for our cause is pure
for our cause is pure
by G-Force » Sun May 14, 2006 3:37 pm
Shameless repost of my character study essays I wrote a while back. You have been warned
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Age: 12
Hobbies: Working on Computers
Identifiable Color: Blue
Personality on Earth: Intelligent and Compassionate
Personality While Manning the Supercomputer: Commanding and Authoritative
Behavior: Thought Before Action
There must be an unwritten law for television shows that there must be a tech head/genius that serves the side of good. One look at Jeremie, and you can guess in your sleep what role he’s going to fulfill in the show. Wearing his oval shaped glasses and blue turtleneck sweater, Jeremie does not appear to be the type who’s going to be winning any sports contests anytime soon but that’s ok as he has many other qualities that make up for this.
It is almost impossible for one to go through their school years and not encounter the snooty whiz kid who behaves in a manner like Mandark from Dexter’s Laboratory; showcasing a superior attitude and making you feel like the mental equivalent of a hamster. Jeremie does no such things. He is kind hearted and always willing to help his friends out and views his intelligence as just another part of him and does not flaunt it.
In a strange sense, one can view Jeremie as XANA’s most deadly foe. Such a comparison seems to be unwarranted due to his characterization on the show and his physical condition. He can’t destroy monsters on Lyoko like the others nor can he really fend off a possessed human being but one must look beyond these shortcomings to see Jeremie’s true strengths as a person. Jeremie alone is the deciding factor in the Lyoko group’s war with XANA With the right set of commands Aelita can be purged of her virus and the evil computer program can be shut down for good. This is where the real war is fought.
Sadly there are a few fans of the show who just see Jeremie as a computer geek and do not recognize his courage and determination. The fate of the world and Aelita’s existence on Earth rests on his shoulders as he has to race against the clock before XANA gets too strong to be contained. Jeremie spent countless nights and mornings toiling away at his computer for Aelita’s materialization program only to do so again for her anti-virus. XANA wishes to stop the young genius every which way he can and on many occasions has tried to end the boy’s life prematurely so that his power can go unchallenged. An average person would be reduced to a paranoid mental mess, more concerned with staying alive after coming so close to death so many times. However, Jeremie just sees these experiences as just yet another obstacle to overcome.
In Taoism, Jeremie represents the steel element; always determined and very stubborn when it comes to achieving one’s goal. Jeremie’s intentions for fighting XANA are indeed noble. No glory, power or riches can be obtained with his enemy’s destruction for himself. Much like Wesley from “The Princess Brideâ€
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Age: 12
Hobbies: Working on Computers
Identifiable Color: Blue
Personality on Earth: Intelligent and Compassionate
Personality While Manning the Supercomputer: Commanding and Authoritative
Behavior: Thought Before Action
There must be an unwritten law for television shows that there must be a tech head/genius that serves the side of good. One look at Jeremie, and you can guess in your sleep what role he’s going to fulfill in the show. Wearing his oval shaped glasses and blue turtleneck sweater, Jeremie does not appear to be the type who’s going to be winning any sports contests anytime soon but that’s ok as he has many other qualities that make up for this.
It is almost impossible for one to go through their school years and not encounter the snooty whiz kid who behaves in a manner like Mandark from Dexter’s Laboratory; showcasing a superior attitude and making you feel like the mental equivalent of a hamster. Jeremie does no such things. He is kind hearted and always willing to help his friends out and views his intelligence as just another part of him and does not flaunt it.
In a strange sense, one can view Jeremie as XANA’s most deadly foe. Such a comparison seems to be unwarranted due to his characterization on the show and his physical condition. He can’t destroy monsters on Lyoko like the others nor can he really fend off a possessed human being but one must look beyond these shortcomings to see Jeremie’s true strengths as a person. Jeremie alone is the deciding factor in the Lyoko group’s war with XANA With the right set of commands Aelita can be purged of her virus and the evil computer program can be shut down for good. This is where the real war is fought.
Sadly there are a few fans of the show who just see Jeremie as a computer geek and do not recognize his courage and determination. The fate of the world and Aelita’s existence on Earth rests on his shoulders as he has to race against the clock before XANA gets too strong to be contained. Jeremie spent countless nights and mornings toiling away at his computer for Aelita’s materialization program only to do so again for her anti-virus. XANA wishes to stop the young genius every which way he can and on many occasions has tried to end the boy’s life prematurely so that his power can go unchallenged. An average person would be reduced to a paranoid mental mess, more concerned with staying alive after coming so close to death so many times. However, Jeremie just sees these experiences as just yet another obstacle to overcome.
In Taoism, Jeremie represents the steel element; always determined and very stubborn when it comes to achieving one’s goal. Jeremie’s intentions for fighting XANA are indeed noble. No glory, power or riches can be obtained with his enemy’s destruction for himself. Much like Wesley from “The Princess Brideâ€
by mooshie » Sun May 14, 2006 7:30 pm
well actually I'mm going to have to say that jeremie's IQ is somewhere above 150, because my IQ is 132 and I can't program hardly at all (except HTML) so I say like 162 or thereabouts
A lot of member have sigs that say"I'm a boy", or "I'm a girl", I refuse to join this trend.
"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what's right" --Isaac Asimov
98% OF TEENS WON'T STAND UP FOR GOD..
only 2% to go
"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what's right" --Isaac Asimov
98% OF TEENS WON'T STAND UP FOR GOD..
only 2% to go
by Skysong » Sun May 14, 2006 10:20 pm
Programming has very little to do with intelligence. Trust me, I know complete idiots who are genius hackers.
I mean, really. Hackers use l33t seriously. Do I need to say anything else?
/endofftopicness
I mean, really. Hackers use l33t seriously. Do I need to say anything else?
/endofftopicness
Mistress of madness and all that jazz. FFN account DA account
Panel from Wild Child 'cause the nosekiss was getting too weird.
Panel from Wild Child 'cause the nosekiss was getting too weird.
by Skiiran Lord » Sun May 14, 2006 11:44 pm
In my mind, Jeremie was, and will always be, the stubborn know-it-all hacker.
Besides, I've never known him to be able to cheer up someone emotionally. That's Odd's job.
Besides, I've never known him to be able to cheer up someone emotionally. That's Odd's job.
Watch the book, the page is turning - how the tale unfolds
Inside every cancered spectre,
inside-outside find your own
God's aloft, the winds are raging - God's aloft, the winds are cold
-Piggy Pig Pig, by Procol Harum
Inside every cancered spectre,
inside-outside find your own
God's aloft, the winds are raging - God's aloft, the winds are cold
-Piggy Pig Pig, by Procol Harum
by Mewberries151 » Mon May 15, 2006 12:44 am
Skiiran Lord wrote:In my mind, Jeremie was, and will always be, the stubborn know-it-all hacker.
Besides, I've never known him to be able to cheer up someone emotionally. That's Odd's job.
I think Ulrich in "LogBook" would disagree with you. Jeremie not only (with a distraction from Odd) got Ulrich to tell him what was going on with Sissi but was subsequently able to reassure him that they'd help to set things right. Ulrich clearly was feeling better after that scene. I'd say that's a prime example of Jeremie cheering someone up. "False Start" has some rather nice examples too.
"Hey, make up your mind. Am I a genius or a creep?"
"You're a creepy genius."
-Odd and Jeremie; "Cruel Dilemma", Code Lyoko
Icon made by boxofdoomage @ LJ
"You're a creepy genius."
-Odd and Jeremie; "Cruel Dilemma", Code Lyoko
Icon made by boxofdoomage @ LJ
by Cassius335 » Mon May 15, 2006 5:35 am
Taelia wrote:*hugs Cassius* Thanks Cassius!
*hugs back* You're Welcome.
Nice post, G-Force, though it probably needs updating a bit (what virus?). Maybe also have a bit which goes into greater detail about Jeremie's relationships with other characters?
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"There are advantages in being honest about your own limitations: you gain the right to talk about the limitations of others." - Science of The Discworld 3
by Carth » Mon May 15, 2006 7:07 am
(Eyes jerk up to your signature) Anyway...
Yes. Now, I will do an essay on Thomas Jovliet.
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He's hawt.
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(That was a joke post, don't flame me)
Yes. Now, I will do an essay on Thomas Jovliet.
...
...
He's hawt.
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...
(That was a joke post, don't flame me)
by mooshie » Mon May 15, 2006 7:05 pm
ok well programming doesn't nescessarily require intelligence however, being able to teach yourself how to write quantum algorithms <lame> well that's a quantum leap </lame> but it would re equire a lot of knoledge aquirement abilities and that generally signifies intelligence, and keep in mind how realistic kiwi 2 was, and that was all an object oriented programming AI, and that's pretty impressive, as well as the wlk patterns, he is the original sort of geek (geek originally was an acronym General Electrical and Engineering Knowledge) ok that's my shpeal
A lot of member have sigs that say"I'm a boy", or "I'm a girl", I refuse to join this trend.
"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what's right" --Isaac Asimov
98% OF TEENS WON'T STAND UP FOR GOD..
only 2% to go
"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what's right" --Isaac Asimov
98% OF TEENS WON'T STAND UP FOR GOD..
only 2% to go
by Skiiran Lord » Mon May 15, 2006 7:29 pm
I think Ulrich in "LogBook" would disagree with you. Jeremie not only (with a distraction from Odd) got Ulrich to tell him what was going on with Sissi but was subsequently able to reassure him that they'd help to set things right. Ulrich clearly was feeling better after that scene. I'd say that's a prime example of Jeremie cheering someone up. "False Start" has some rather nice examples too. Happy
I'll admit, he has his high points, but Odd ususally cheers people up first.
...although Odd is by far more of a jerk than Jeremie.
Watch the book, the page is turning - how the tale unfolds
Inside every cancered spectre,
inside-outside find your own
God's aloft, the winds are raging - God's aloft, the winds are cold
-Piggy Pig Pig, by Procol Harum
Inside every cancered spectre,
inside-outside find your own
God's aloft, the winds are raging - God's aloft, the winds are cold
-Piggy Pig Pig, by Procol Harum
by Skipperdee » Mon May 15, 2006 8:27 pm
Odd does some stupid stuff, but that hardly justifies calling him a jerk. Maybe to Sissi... but he's awfully nice to Milly and Tamiya when he could just brush them off as annoying underclassmen. And he was more forgiving in regards to Ulrich's "situation" in Zero Gravity Zone than Jeremie was, though that doesn't make Jeremie a jerk either.
by Skiiran Lord » Mon May 15, 2006 9:16 pm
You know, I said that Odd is MORE OF a jerk than Jeremie, but that doesn't mean I called him a supreme jerk. He just does more jerky things than Jeremie.
And I think I'm going to start classifying new subspecies of Humans.
And I think I'm going to start classifying new subspecies of Humans.
Watch the book, the page is turning - how the tale unfolds
Inside every cancered spectre,
inside-outside find your own
God's aloft, the winds are raging - God's aloft, the winds are cold
-Piggy Pig Pig, by Procol Harum
Inside every cancered spectre,
inside-outside find your own
God's aloft, the winds are raging - God's aloft, the winds are cold
-Piggy Pig Pig, by Procol Harum
by Mewberries151 » Tue May 16, 2006 12:51 am
Skiiran Lord wrote:I think Ulrich in "LogBook" would disagree with you. Jeremie not only (with a distraction from Odd) got Ulrich to tell him what was going on with Sissi but was subsequently able to reassure him that they'd help to set things right. Ulrich clearly was feeling better after that scene. I'd say that's a prime example of Jeremie cheering someone up. "False Start" has some rather nice examples too. Happy
I'll admit, he has his high points, but Odd ususally cheers people up first.
...although Odd is by far more of a jerk than Jeremie.
^^ Ah, yes, but you said you'd "never known" Jeremie to cheer another up. Never say never!
"Hey, make up your mind. Am I a genius or a creep?"
"You're a creepy genius."
-Odd and Jeremie; "Cruel Dilemma", Code Lyoko
Icon made by boxofdoomage @ LJ
"You're a creepy genius."
-Odd and Jeremie; "Cruel Dilemma", Code Lyoko
Icon made by boxofdoomage @ LJ
by Cassius335 » Tue May 16, 2006 6:53 am
Carth_upon_a_star wrote:(Eyes jerk up to your signature)
*raises eyebrow* What? You were expecting me to make stamps?
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"There are advantages in being honest about your own limitations: you gain the right to talk about the limitations of others." - Science of The Discworld 3
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