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Where to go from here?

Wait for S3
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Postby TB3 » Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:35 am

Post number 800 - well done guys :)
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Postby Key » Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:52 am

Yeah, at first, I thought that he had only created a virtual image of himself so that his memory could be retained. Then I remembered that Jeremie has to fight on Lyoko to prevent possession of XANA. So, he may have deleted it.

Rob wrote:...

That should explain it, I don't have time to stay any longer.


Now that you think about it, that could be possible. Very possible.

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Yesterday, I posted my 100th post! I added this cool XANA symbol to my avatar!!! Cheers! ;)
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Postby Cassius335 » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:26 am

TB3 wrote:Post number 800 - well done guys :)


*points at Rob's diagram* your thoughts, boss?
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Postby Keiji » Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:41 pm

Don't quote large images (without a very good reason, anyway).

I'm sure people will be very happy to see a broken link in your post, GivR. :)
The image is still in my post, of course...
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Postby Key » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:46 pm

:cussout:

*takes deep breaths*

Don't worry, I forgive you. ;)
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Postby Cassius335 » Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:54 pm

*dry* Trust me, he's not worried.
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Postby Key » Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:04 pm

Shut. Your. Mouth.

...and just browse the rest of this site...

...everytime you're around me, you ALWAYS have something to say. And I'm tired of it! Don't you know how to keep it closed? Come on, just this once?

Roll the tapes please...

Cassius335 wrote:...You haven't been paying attention to the thread AT ALL have you?...Unfortunately, that means GivR is right...I don't know what is worse,....or GivR starting to actually sound sane...*dry* Trust me, he's not worried...


And esspecially that last one.

I'm really trying to hold it in right now, your jumping up and down on my very last nerve!
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Postby Cassius335 » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:32 pm

GivR wrote:Shut. Your. Mouth.

...and just browse the rest of this site...

...everytime you're around me, you ALWAYS have something to say. And I'm tired of it! Don't you know how to keep it closed? Come on, just this once?

Roll the tapes please...

Cassius335 wrote:...You haven't been paying attention to the thread AT ALL have you?...Unfortunately, that means GivR is right...I don't know what is worse,....or GivR starting to actually sound sane...*dry* Trust me, he's not worried...



And esspecially that last one.

I'm really trying to hold it in right now, your jumping up and down on my very last nerve!


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Postby Sithking Zero » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:33 pm

I agree. You can't help but criticize people, can you? And you don't even do it nicely! Poor Astronomical XANA has been the brunt of your aggressions to the point that I have considered reporting you to the mods. I'm starting to change my opinion of not reporting you. Thus far, I have seen little but hostility and insults towards everybody that you talk to. THIS. STOPS. NOW.
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Postby Cassius335 » Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:41 pm

Sith, as far as XANA goes, I still haven't entirely forgiven him for the whole "Moonscoop stole my ideas" thread. You have to admit, AX does overthink his ideas a bit.

As for me being isulting and agressive? I was trying for wry, occasionally a bit scared of what I read... and I haven't forgotten CL Genesis either.

What GivR just posted, that is being insulting and agressive. There is a difference.
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Postby Sithking Zero » Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:19 pm

Cassius335 wrote:Sith, as far as XANA goes, I still haven't entirely forgiven him for the whole "Moonscoop stole my ideas" thread. You have to admit, AX does overthink his ideas a bit.

As for me being isulting and agressive? I was trying for wry, occasionally a bit scared of what I read... and I haven't forgotten CL Genesis either.

What GivR just posted, that is being insulting and agressive. There is a difference.


Ooh, crud. I'm sorry, Cassius. I thought you were Rob. Sorry... I read it wrong. I'm really sorry Cassius...

But yeah, he does overthink his ideas too much. I do know someone like him in real life.

Anyways, back on topic. Was the purpose of the Core Zone (Sector five) being able to shift around just a security feature, or what?
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Postby Keiji » Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:12 am

Am I the only one here that is totally confused as to what you lot are arguing about? :umm:

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Postby Cassius335 » Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:40 am

Sithking Zero wrote:Ooh, crud. I'm sorry, Cassius. I thought you were Rob. Sorry... I read it wrong. I'm really sorry Cassius...


*hugs* No problem. I've been mistaken for worse... :D

Sithking Zero wrote: Was the purpose of the Core Zone (Sector five) being able to shift around just a security feature, or what?


I think so.
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Postby Key » Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:26 am

Completley pathetic...

But, as a new day begins, I've gotten over it!

Just as that CL Genesis thing is LONG over, this discussion is over as well. You can't help when somebody is acting moronic, that is completley and uttlerly stupid, senseless, and pointless. But, maybe you were just brought up that way. In any case, you are still merely a child...you will learn soon enough...

And for those who haven't found out, GivR IS CL Genesis...just changed the name. ;)

LAUGH AT THAT! :*D

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And as for, "Was the purpose of the Core Zone (Sector five) being able to shift around just a security feature, or what?"...

Really, there might be other reasons, and secrets of Sector 5 that has been undiscovered at the moment. As we've learned in the past, anything could happen on Code Lyoko. A security feature maybe the reason. But if Carthage was part of Project Carthage, maybe it could be for training or something, but who knows? Franz Hopper's Diary is full of this sort of information.

I have a question.

Franz Hopper said that he created Project Carthage to distrupt enemy communications. What exactly does this mean? He wanted to create a world without danger, was this his goal in life?

But one thing is for sure, if we are meeting Franz Hopper on S4, then we are bound to learn tons of secrets behind Project Carthage, XANA's history, and Aelita's background.
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Postby Cassius335 » Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:41 am

GivR wrote:Completley pathetic...

But, as a new day begins, I've gotten over it!

Just as that CL Genesis thing is LONG over, this discussion is over as well. You can't help when somebody is acting moronic, that is completley and uttlerly stupid, senseless, and pointless. But, maybe you were just brought up that way. In any case, you are still merely a child...you will learn soon enough...

And for those who haven't found out, GivR IS CL Genesis...just changed the name. ;)

LAUGH AT THAT! :*D


And you wonder why I don't respect you?

"still merely a child"? For the record, I'm 27. You?

GivR wrote:I have a question.

Franz Hopper said that he created Project Carthage to distrupt enemy communications. What exactly does this mean? He wanted to create a world without danger, was this his goal in life?


I think the consensus round here is that something went wrong at Project Carthage, causing Franz to create Lyoko. What that was... well, as you say, S4 will hopefully show us.
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Postby Key » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:00 pm

Cassius335 wrote:And you wonder why I don't respect you?


You know what they say, the best way to get respect is to give it...something you don't do.

Cassius335 wrote:"still merely a child"? For the record, I'm 27. You?


Whoa. 27...? Twenty-seven?! Wow.

27, and you still haven't learned your lesson. Well, all I can say to that is...

You're just an overgrown baby...or are you just one of those, "age is nothin but a number" people?

So, why are you on a forum for a teen/children's show? You really don't have a life do you?

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Cassius335 wrote:I think the consensus round here is that something went wrong at Project Carthage, causing Franz to create Lyoko. What that was... well, as you say, S4 will hopefully show us.


We know that already...but the question is, what. What what was so bad that Hopper had to go to Lyoko? And why don't the teachers remember him, if he was a teacher at Kadic?

Also, I bet you couldn't guess my age...and don't be sarcastic when you do. Best possible awnser.
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Postby Reesane » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:16 pm

*is waiting for the fourm equvelent of a mod-lanched nuclear fallout*

The carhage of lyoko is a gient procesing center. From the core, ALL data is accsesable, so XANA made his home there (for XANA, the core is like the library of Alxezandrea). The "core" is the vurtual reperentation of a huge proseser. If the gang had more time to look around near by the core, then they may have found a data termanal or two. XANA probubly lived in that room untile he escaped carthage (but that is just my theory, it remided me of a throne room I saw in a fantesy RPG).
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Postby Key » Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:29 pm

On the Code Lyoko Volume 3 DVD, it states that Carthage lies within the heart of Lyoko. Carthage was built first and Lyoko was constructed around it. Just had to say that.
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Postby Tangent128 » Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:04 pm

* Grabs popcorn, waits for explosion. *
In the meantime...

I think the rearranging is partially a security feature, though it appears (mostly) ineffective.
It seems to have another use, however. As we've seen, Carthage appears to contain all of the data of Lyoko- the other sectors apparantly contain most of the processing capability (towers), and are also meant to be inhabitable.
I'm guessing that Carthage contains many rooms, with different ones containing different data fragments; however, Carthage doesn't seem large enough to contain all the rooms that we see in it, let alone possibly thousands of other rooms.
Therefore, I'm guessing that Carthage uses a relative coordinate system- one has a location within a given room, but no location within the sector as a whole. Rooms can be linked to each other in any way desired.

In other words:
    a door in a room of Carthage could be linked to a door in any other room, regardless of "where" that room is in Carthage.
    the connections between rooms can and often change their layout, for at least two reasons:
      a sector needs to access a fragment of data, in which case the room with the data is connected to the room adjacent to the data stream.
      a command is given to connect a certain room to another. XANA did this in that episode where he stole Ulrich's body. The "mechanism" apparently issues a command to link the given room to the elevator, which is linked to the Celestial Sphere. Jeremy can't issue such a command directly, but in "The Key" he was able to enter alternate coordinates for the mechanism to link to (the room with Aelita's (fake) memory)
    The room containing the Heart of Lyoko is always linked to the port at the bottom, since that data is always needed.


I like Rob's diagram of the solenoid, though I think the rack-and-pinion is a little redundant- just attatch the lever to the solenoid. Either way, it should work nicely.
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Postby Reesane » Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:37 pm

*Pulls up a lawn chair, also waiting for the exploshion.*
(Hey, can I have some popcorn?)

I think XANA's mood might have also effected the layout, at lest in season 2.
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Postby Cassius335 » Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:47 pm

You guys gonna offer GivR some popcorn to go with that mud he's slinging?:music:

Nice theory Tangent.


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Postby Reesane » Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:08 pm

(I wonder what TB3 will think about the mini flame war? *shudders*)

Yes! Exelent theory, Tangent!
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Postby Sithking Zero » Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:02 pm

Tangent128 wrote:* Grabs popcorn, waits for explosion. *
In the meantime...

I think the rearranging is partially a security feature, though it appears (mostly) ineffective.
It seems to have another use, however. As we've seen, Carthage appears to contain all of the data of Lyoko- the other sectors apparantly contain most of the processing capability (towers), and are also meant to be inhabitable.
I'm guessing that Carthage contains many rooms, with different ones containing different data fragments; however, Carthage doesn't seem large enough to contain all the rooms that we see in it, let alone possibly thousands of other rooms.
Therefore, I'm guessing that Carthage uses a relative coordinate system- one has a location within a given room, but no location within the sector as a whole. Rooms can be linked to each other in any way desired.

In other words:
    a door in a room of Carthage could be linked to a door in any other room, regardless of "where" that room is in Carthage.
    the connections between rooms can and often change their layout, for at least two reasons:
      a sector needs to access a fragment of data, in which case the room with the data is connected to the room adjacent to the data stream.
      a command is given to connect a certain room to another. XANA did this in that episode where he stole Ulrich's body. The "mechanism" apparently issues a command to link the given room to the elevator, which is linked to the Celestial Sphere. Jeremy can't issue such a command directly, but in "The Key" he was able to enter alternate coordinates for the mechanism to link to (the room with Aelita's (fake) memory)
    The room containing the Heart of Lyoko is always linked to the port at the bottom, since that data is always needed.

I like Rob's diagram of the solenoid, though I think the rack-and-pinion is a little redundant- just attatch the lever to the solenoid. Either way, it should work nicely.


Well, that's a good theory, but I have another one as to how XANA created a door to the Core of Lyoko:

He made Ulrich's body intangeble.

In the novelization of the movie Titan AE, there's a scene where the queen Drej activates a device that allows her to run through any wall she wants. That would greatly save time, especially in the constantly shifting corezone.
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Postby Key » Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:32 pm

Cassius335 wrote:You guys gonna offer GivR some popcorn to go with that mud he's slinging?:music:

Incedentially: 7, tops.


About the popcorn. Yeah, I'll have some! :*D

7? Wrong again, "Mr.C" the adult...do you think a seven year old could use such advanced vocabulary? Do you think a seven year old could comprehened and produce these inigmatic ideas that stream from my head to my fingers?

I'm the exact same age as Jeremie, Ulrich, and Odd. 14...!
YAAAAY!! *clapping* Thank you genetics!! It's nice to be in the exact same grade and age of the characters of my favorite show. And they progress along with me, have you noticed that? We started 9th grade at the same time!!! :nyeh!:

Yep. 14 years old.
You bet.

Hmm, how could I put this taintfully?

The flame war, which really wasn't a flame war, (I was slinging facts, not mud!)
Let's just- leave that behind us and go on with the disscussion. Morons will be morons, what more can you do? Pretty much, I am completely ashamed of my behavior...when things just spin out of control, and in the heat of the moment...you can't blame me. Did you see those awful comments Cassius335 wrote?

Nice thought Tangent. I see how you can actually think up possible factors of how the contraption works. ;)

And, no need to apologize, I forgive you.
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Postby Cassius335 » Sat Nov 04, 2006 4:39 pm

GivR wrote:(I was slinging facts, not mud!)


Opinion does not equal fact.

GivR wrote:Morons will be morons, what more can you do?


Took the words out of my mouth... ;)

GivR wrote:Pretty much, I am completely ashamed of my behavior...


You ought to be ashamed. But if you're quite done?
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