Season 4 Episode 1: William Returns

[. offline]

all right heres my thoughts...

1. William retaining his personality under XANA's control = key to success for the character. The evil antagonistic nature to him, that charisma. It's great and I love it. I only hate how he was used to sparringly in this episode.

2. HATE that Lyoko was just reformed. What the crap? Then what, storyline wise, was the purpose of deleting it? It loses all value and coolness if Lyoko is deleated and then can be so simply brought back.

3. WHERE THE HELL IS THE CONTENUITY? William shows up and hes not slightly pissed at all about being left for dead? Yumi all of sudden forgets that she hates him and starts flirting with him?

4. the visuals are improved.

5. Semi-liked William's powers, but his Lyoko outfit is just a tad tooo..... Emo. He needs to look more badass and cocky and show more of his personality.

7/10, it's something to build upon.

[DarkestSoul X21 offline]

It is odd that Yumi doesn't hate William anymore. Maybe Yumi is just having mood swings? This is a good episode that I am making a video about it right now.

[Gauntlet offline]

Um...

I thought XANA was just taking control of William, and the group had passed it off as a fluke or the like. William was supposed to be lost in the digital sea, but he lived, and acted like himself, so I wouldn't think they'd suspect him of being XANA possessed.

...of course, it's more along the lines of, "it doesn't flow too neatly, but let's use it", but it works, and I like it. I guess Yumi had forgiven William's slip up by the time he was back.

[Sithking Zero offline]

I truly hate all of you.

I truly do.

Season Four premieres, and I am at Six Flags with my class doing Physics problems.

I hate you lucky (explicitives).

I'm going to go weep in a corner now.

[Mewberries151]

Um...

I thought XANA was just taking control of William, and the group had passed it off as a fluke or the like. William was supposed to be lost in the digital sea, but he lived, and acted like himself, so I wouldn't think they'd suspect him of being XANA possessed.

...of course, it's more along the lines of, "it doesn't flow too neatly, but let's use it", but it works, and I like it. I guess Yumi had forgiven William's slip up by the time he was back.

Either that or she was just relieved to see that he wasn't "dead", so to speak, since, so far as they knew, he'd been deleted.

As for William not being annoyed, he said he couldn't remember anything, so there goes that...not to mention he might also have been under XANA's control even then, so of course he's not going to act angry with them if he's trying to get close to Aelita.

As for Lyoko being reformed...they only have Sector 5, so it's not like they've completely brought it back. Not to mention that, given Aelita and Jeremie's combined programming genius, along with Franz Hopper's instructions (who created Lyoko to begin with) on how to do it, I don't think it's all that implausible. I'm going to assume that the initial deletion of Lyoko was to 1) Have William's latest turn to villainy make sense and 2) Provide a reason for XANA to stop using Towers and set his latest plan into motion (whatever said plan may be). ^^;

[TB3]

Remember that Lyoko may not have been 'deleted' as such - all the requisite data was still in the computer's hard-drives, but when William deleted the core he deleted the...file directory, I guess...like pulling all of the support girders out of a building and watching it fall down. When the dust settles, the building has gone, but all the bricks remain - the container is gone but the content remains.

What J and A have done with Franz's help is esentially recompile Sector 5's data - and if Jeremie's comments and that reboot screen is anything to go by, there's been some...changes...

On other notes, here's a plot point for you - Jeremie recovered Ulrich from Sector 5 before he fell into the void meaning he can forcibly devirtualise someone - so why, oh why...didn't he pull Aelita out!

Like I said, plot point

[JeremyHopper offline]

all right heres my thoughts...

1. William retaining his personality under XANA's control = key to success for the character. The evil antagonistic nature to him, that charisma. It's great and I love it. I only hate how he was used to sparringly in this episode.

2. HATE that Lyoko was just reformed. What the crap? Then what, storyline wise, was the purpose of deleting it? It loses all value and coolness if Lyoko is deleated and then can be so simply brought back.

3. WHERE THE HELL IS THE CONTENUITY? William shows up and hes not slightly pissed at all about being left for dead? Yumi all of sudden forgets that she hates him and starts flirting with him?

4. the visuals are improved.

5. Semi-liked William's powers, but his Lyoko outfit is just a tad tooo..... Emo. He needs to look more badass and cocky and show more of his personality.

7/10, it's something to build upon.

I just about agree with all those statements. The episode wasn't the GREATEST, but it was great to finally see some new material. It was like a sneek peak kind of episode, it's just to wet your appetite for the real stuff.

Overall I liked it. 7/10 for me too.

Oh, and the high-point of the episode for me was Jim's disco!! YES!!

[. offline]

Um...

I thought XANA was just taking control of William, and the group had passed it off as a fluke or the like. William was supposed to be lost in the digital sea, but he lived, and acted like himself, so I wouldn't think they'd suspect him of being XANA possessed.

...of course, it's more along the lines of, "it doesn't flow too neatly, but let's use it", but it works, and I like it. I guess Yumi had forgiven William's slip up by the time he was back.

Either that or she was just relieved to see that he wasn't "dead", so to speak, since, so far as they knew, he'd been deleted.

As for William not being annoyed, he said he couldn't remember anything, so there goes that...not to mention he might also have been under XANA's control even then, so of course he's not going to act angry with them if he's trying to get close to Aelita.

As for Lyoko being reformed...they only have Sector 5, so it's not like they've completely brought it back. Not to mention that, given Aelita and Jeremie's combined programming genius, along with Franz Hopper's instructions (who created Lyoko to begin with) on how to do it, I don't think it's all that implausible. I'm going to assume that the initial deletion of Lyoko was to 1) Have William's latest turn to villainy make sense and 2) Provide a reason for XANA to stop using Towers and set his latest plan into motion (whatever said plan may be). ^^;

I don't mean that it's implausible. I'm just saying it makes the deleation of Lyoko less special because it was so eassily brought back in a few seconds. Even if it is just sector 5, it makes what William did to get over with the audience as a believeable powerful force to by reckon with (Killing the team then destroying lyoko) less amazing.

Yeah and theres the argument "Oh he was under XANA's control blah blah blah", yeah and he was when Yumi uttered the line "We never should of trusted you!" before getting devirtualized. They don't even bother to explain what caused the change of heart.

There is ALOT they're going to need to rebound from... I just hope the season isn't filled with filler eps like the last one was. I hate filler.

[Carth]

Now for my fancy stories!

So I taped it, but the tape went all poopy after the first commercial break. So I stayed up to catch the 10:30.

Here's my two cents-

1. XANALIAM. I am both insanely excited and mildly dissapionted. Excited, because he was there. I thought it was really cute when he was pretending to be William. What I was waiting for was for him to toss off some corny one-liner - come on, XANA-tan, every supervillan has some corny one-liner up his sleeve! Okay, so maybe that prisoner of XANA thing counted...

2. PACO! THE KING OF DISCO. Jim has a new job. =D

3. Odd The King of Disco. The suit was so cute on him...

4. The outside of Carthage as seen from the Digital Sea. That was AWESOME.

5. All the 3D swingey doors.

6. GIVE US MORE. JUNE COME ALREADY DANGIT. STOP IT WITH THE SUSPENSE.

XANALIAM= AND YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY.

[Tom Bone offline]

CL is back and bettah than evah, baby!!! Awesome episode, to say the least. I wonder why XANA's possession of William didn't activate any towers. Perhaps because Lyoko was gone when he did and there were no towers to be activated?

[Rail Runner offline]

The thing that sorta confused me was, the rest of Lyoko was destroyed...but yet, Jeremie was still talking about no activated towers...Im like huh? There are no towers to activate.

[Writing_Addict offline]

I recorded it and haven't stopped watching it untill now...this is like the...fifth or sixth time?

I do agree with alot of what you are all saying (I don't feel like quoting). Many things do not make sense or my brain isn't caring enough to ponder...Has Xana created a way for you too not to be devirtulized? I mean unless Xanliam has a protective suit on when he fell in the sea, couldn't the others not been deleted when they fell in? I mean it's obvioius William would come back from the digital sea. I also wonder if the digital sea is Xana's summer home. ^^ Season 2 explained Sector 5 was where he lived...sorta. Jeremy did say "he's returning to his master" (somewhere along the lines of that)

Okay...I'm done rambling stuff that doesn't make sense...

The thing that sorta confused me was, the rest of Lyoko was destroyed...but yet, Jeremie was still talking about no activated towers...Im like huh? There are no towers to activate.

Well there was one in sector five but I doubt he was talking about that...in fact I wonder if that particular tower still exists....

But good question....who has a good answer?

[Rail Runner offline]

I guess what they meant by him returning to his master was the fact that he was using the Digital Sea as protection as he...*swam floated* whatever....he used it as protection because he knew the group couldnt get him there.

[Hardcore Lyoko offline]

I saw it. Wow. I caught the second time, the first one I was at the eighth-grade dance wearing a (gasp) black and white polkadot dress. I hate dresses. But, I digress...

I was pratically SCREAMING at the TV: "HE'S POSSESSED, YOU IDIOTS!"

Wow.

I noticed the new music as well. Awesome-I'm glad I audio-recorded it. ^^ I'm listening to it right now, actually.

Why did William rip off Ulrich's 'Super Sprint?' What's with the smoke-it looks like a spectre, or specter, or however anyone says it. Why isn't Yumi so cheesed off with William? I'd be! Then again, they're probably relieved he's ok or something.

But honestly, when someone strange shuts your door, leaving you and him in the same room, when it's dark and people are probably asleep, you SERIOUSLY need to become suspicious.

-bops Aelita on the head- Baka! I caught it before you did and I'm the most oblivious person I know!

[Rail Runner offline]

I knew he was possessed the whole time. I didnt fall for the nice guy routine.

[Taelia offline]

I still think Sissi going back to being a snob was just terrible.

[Cassius335 offline]

Ok, some nice person put the Season 4 opening on Youtube. Better than the Season 2/3 opening, since this one at least attempts some coherance, but it's still a tad flickery for my taste.

And William gets FIRST? The bad guy gets first? Wow. Think we might not be rid of him for a while

As to the music, I'm in half a mind here. On one hand, I'd miss "World Without Danger" if it left, on the other, I was expecting "Planet Net" as new opening music and it would have been interesting to hear it in that context.

[Reploid CB]

Honestly, I don't really think the theme song itself is gonna change.. If I remember the opening well enough, it looked like they'd synced it up with A World Without Danger, and I doubt they'd change it. Besides, though the entire song doesn't really apply anymore (or won't soon), the lyrics they actually use only in the opening still do.

By the way, am I the only one who thought it was cool that they did a virtualizing-in-the-scanners thing for William? xD;; ^^

[TL.]

On the technical front, there has been some improvements, in particularly the new music heard and animation. And the new intro gets many thumbs up.

Story wise, I found t a nice touch to bring back Disco Jim and the Milly/Tamara (however you spell it) from season 3, but overall, a disappointing start to season 4. I mean, season 3 was all about XANA destroying Lyoko, as now they are recreating it? It eliminates the severity that surrounded the situations of season 3. And William was a let down. I was hoping that he had become XANA’s host, not his pawn. And the way that Sissy was portrayed; its like season 2 never happened.

Not a good omen for this season I’m afraid.

7/10.

BTW, I hadn’t cringed so much in so long.

[Reesane offline]

Is it me, or is it always Yumi who is the one who is constantly falling into the digital sea, but ends up being saved later. i've seen no one ELSE FALL! God.

Oh god, you've noticed that too? It's practically Yumi's thing xDD Odd always runs out of arrows; Ulrich Triplicates and tends to lose clones early; Yumi falls. Always. xD;

... Jeremie gets mauled by the clones/possed people; and Aelita has the Jellyfish-whoes-name-I-can't-spell attacking her.

Everyone has their own little problem.

[YDV offline]

Pardon me if I'm missing something here, but.

WHY IS XANA STILL GOING AFTER AELITA?

There are no longer any keys. He doesn't want to steal her memories. He also doesn't care much about destroying Lyoko anymore.

IS HE PICKING ON HER CUZ HER HAIR IS PINK? :< DOES HE HAVE SOME VENDETTA AGAINST JEREMIE AND IS GETTING BACK AT HIM BY <s>BANNA</s>KILLING HIS GF?

[Reploid CB]

Maybe he just wants to get rid of her once and for all? Or maybe XANA has foreseen some important aspect Aelita will have in the upcoming season? *shrugs* I guess as more episodes start coming out once it officially premieres, we'll find out..

[Taelia offline]

Maybe XANA has foreseen Aelita and the others restoring Lyoko to its beauty, and he wants to stop them?

[Saphire-089 offline]

I agree with the people who said Sissi was back to being a jerk. I mean, I thought she might actually be a bit nicer in this season, after what happened in S2.


Am i the only one who's going to miss watching them trip the key?

The opening was much better than the other seasons, and I doubt it's ever going to change. How many other songs do you know of that would fit the series anyways?

Apparently, this episode was set just a few weeks (or more) after Final Round, because Milly and Tamiya are still mad at Jeremie in the begining of the episode.

In Final Round, right before Yumi is devirtualized by William, she says that she knew it would be a bad idea to let him into the group, and now, later, she accepts him right away? As if Final Round never took place? I know that they're all teenagers with various mood swings, but wouldn't she be a little suspicious of him coming back so soon.

William was more than likely a clone sent by XANA, he did take Aelita to the scanners, to send her to the digital sea.

[LadyLucy offline]

WHAT HAPPENED?!?!?! *gives everyone huge o mungous puppy eyes* I'm in Ireland with no TV....what happened????