Season 5!

[MY85 offline]

What's better?
A. Being filthy rich and deliver a crappy product by extending your product.
B. Be remembered for delivering a great cartoon.

[twilightchaos09 offline]

I would go with "B". But how many companies can you honestly say would do that? Not many. Money is the prime nessesity in this world today, unfortunately. And I've yet to find a non-greedy company.

Edit: OMG. I ment to put B! So sorry about that X.X

[DarkestSoul X21 offline]

I have seen the last 4 episodes in french. I'll just tell you that there is a lot of action and the last episode #95 is boring.

[timekitten offline]

B is better for the series, and that's what they are doing. Fans just need to learn to let go a little. I would hope that Moonscoop wouldn't follow A, and be like SE. Constantly overusing their most 'popular' franchise *coughFinalFantasycough* for money and ignoring the fans and potential for any other series they have created in the past.

[Mewberries151]

B is better for the series, and that's what they are doing. Fans just need to learn to let go a little. I would hope that Moonscoop wouldn't follow A, and be like SE. Constantly overusing their most 'popular' franchise *coughFinalFantasycough* for money and ignoring the fans and potential for any other series they have created in the past.

I could not have said it better myself. *highfives TimeKitten*

Honestly, it always confuses me why fans will whine for more episodes...and then cry about it when they get it, but it isn't what they want (or isn't the quality it was before).

I would highly suggest that those of you who are calling MoonScoop "stupid" and "idiotic" for canceling CL, take a good look at their reasons for doing so. There is such a thing as "artistic freedom" and "artistic choice". They wanted to end CL on a good high note, and leave it open enough that the fans could take it new places (or that they could clear up things in a couple special episodes, take your pick).

Calling their choice to end Code Lyoko at season 4 anything other than an "artistic choice", is disrespectful, and certainly not in the spirit that I think should be shown to people who gave us 4 amazing seasons of a cartoon we love.

You can disagree with their choice, but don't call them "stupid" for it. That's just rude, and as an artist, I simply cannot abide by that.

Especially since so many of you seem to have picked, "Choice B".

*sighs* Again, I can understand why you guys are upset about the show ending, but honestly...have a little compassion for the people who worked so hard to make it for us. Did any of you stop to consider that they simply might be "tired"? Creating an animated show takes a lot of work and dedication from a lot of people (animators, writers, editors, sound technicians, VAs, directors, composers...and that's just the tip of the iceberg). They brought us 4 amazing seasons...what if they'd like to take a break and/or work on something else? Would you guys want them forced into a 5th season that they didn't want to do (or didn't have the energy to do), just to please your fancy?

[RySenkari offline]

Constantly overusing their most 'popular' franchise *coughFinalFantasycough* for money and ignoring the fans and potential for any other series they have created in the past

I beg your pardon, Final Fantasy X and XII were great games. Yes, we ALL wish they would make a third Chrono game (what they did to Schala was unforgivable and needs to be retconned). But don't bash Final Fantasy, which continues to be an excellent series. Bash other series that Square continues to insist upon prolonging (the Mana series, for example... they need to do a DS remake of Seiken Densetsu 3 and bring it to the U.S. before putting out crap like "Sword of Mana").

As for Code Lyoko, the only regret I have is that Sissi didn't get to become a Lyoko Warrior (but I suppose there's fanfiction for that). I'd go crazy happy if they had to re-activate the supercomputer and make Sissi a warrior in some kind of post series special, but they're probably not gonna do that. Oh well, it's their series and they can do what they want with it.

[Taelia offline]

I could not have said it better myself. *highfives TimeKitten*

Honestly, it always confuses me why fans will whine for more episodes...and then cry about it when they get it, but it isn't what they want (or isn't the quality it was before).

I would highly suggest that those of you who are calling MoonScoop "stupid" and "idiotic" for canceling CL, take a good look at their reasons for doing so. There is such a thing as "artistic freedom" and "artistic choice". They wanted to end CL on a good high note, and leave it open enough that the fans could take it new places (or that they could clear up things in a couple special episodes, take your pick).

Calling their choice to end Code Lyoko at season 4 anything other than an "artistic choice", is disrespectful, and certainly not in the spirit that I think should be shown to people who gave us 4 amazing seasons of a cartoon we love.

You can disagree with their choice, but don't call them "stupid" for it. That's just rude, and as an artist, I simply cannot abide by that.

Especially since so many of you seem to have picked, "Choice B".

*sighs* Again, I can understand why you guys are upset about the show ending, but honestly...have a little compassion for the people who worked so hard to make it for us. Did any of you stop to consider that they simply might be "tired"? Creating an animated show takes a lot of work and dedication from a lot of people (animators, writers, editors, sound technicians, VAs, directors, composers...and that's just the tip of the iceberg). They brought us 4 amazing seasons...what if they'd like to take a break and/or work on something else? Would you guys want them forced into a 5th season that they didn't want to do (or didn't have the energy to do), just to please your fancy?

Yeah, and we all have made friends with them, so I guess I was right, the series is definitely over.

[Cassius335 offline]

We keep telling you not...

..ah, why do I bother?

[Taelia offline]

(sigh)

I'm sorry. It's just that I am confused on which to believe.

[oddiscool offline]

a fifth season would be nice to find out more about Franz Hopper but since in episode 94 xana was destroyed and in episode 95 they shut down the supercomputer it would have no plot.

[Malkmusian offline]

True that. When Franz and XANA were destroyed in Episode 94, we didn't know anything about Franz, Project Carthage, or the name change from Waldo Schaeffer to Franz Hopper...or Antea on why she's gone.

[timekitten offline]

I could not have said it better myself. *highfives TimeKitten*

*highfives back*

*sighs* Again, I can understand why you guys are upset about the show ending, but honestly...have a little compassion for the people who worked so hard to make it for us. Did any of you stop to consider that they simply might be "tired"? Creating an animated show takes a lot of work and dedication from a lot of people (animators, writers, editors, sound technicians, VAs, directors, composers...and that's just the tip of the iceberg). They brought us 4 amazing seasons...what if they'd like to take a break and/or work on something else? Would you guys want them forced into a 5th season that they didn't want to do (or didn't have the energy to do), just to please your fancy?

Indeed. Some forget all the time and effort required for our 30 minutes pleasure. Creating an animated series, and a 2D/3D combo at that, can take months of work for a few completed episodes. Not saying the fans are selfish for constantly asking for more, and I'm not saying the makers are sick and tired of working on the show. Just that fans should to at least understand and respect the reasons throughout the show and it's ending. Particularly if those fans just want more to see one simple kiss, as if to confirm a relationship that's so freakin' obvious But I disgress.

I beg your pardon, Final Fantasy X and XII were great games. Yes, we ALL wish they would make a third Chrono game (what they did to Schala was unforgivable and needs to be retconned). But don't bash Final Fantasy, which continues to be an excellent series. Bash other series that Square continues to insist upon prolonging (the Mana series, for example... they need to do a DS remake of Seiken Densetsu 3 and bring it to the U.S. before putting out crap like "Sword of Mana").

True (and Cross's ending was horrible, practically a pointless adventure). I'm not exactly one to judge the FF series seeing how I've never played FFIX and above. But SE needs to lay off on the FF for a while. Take a break and build up some other series. The FF fans will still be around to play afterwards, if not utterly rushing to buy after being starved for a while. lol

[Cassius335 offline]

(sigh)

I'm sorry. It's just that I am confused on which to believe.

Do you really believe Moonscoop would give up it's best property that easily? Have faith and lets see what word 2008 brings.

a fifth season would be nice to find out more about Franz Hopper but since in episode 94 xana was destroyed and in episode 95 they shut down the supercomputer it would have no plot.

If you really believe XANA is gone for good, I have a pair of skyscrapers to sell you. Lots of office space, lovely view of New York...

[Taelia offline]

Do you really believe Moonscoop would give up it's best property that easily? Have faith and lets see what word 2008 brings.

For the first time, I believe you.

[MY85 offline]

Particularly if those fans just want more to see one simple kiss, as if to confirm a relationship that's so freakin' obvious But I disgress.

I think that the only real couple Code Lyoko had (and that's pushing it) was Jeremie and Aelita. Sure they don't kiss, but they have shown more couple signs that Yumi/Ulrich did, and it took the final episode of the episode to possibly confirm that Ulrich and Yumi are a couple.

[Mewberries151]

(sigh)

I'm sorry. It's just that I am confused on which to believe.

Do you really believe Moonscoop would give up it's best property that easily? Have faith and lets see what word 2008 brings.

Well, as TB3 reported, while the show "Code Lyoko" as we are familiar with it, may be over, Code Lyoko will still appear in various forms of media, one of which could be a possible short set of special episodes based around Franz Hopper and his past, and possibly a movie, which was reported elsewhere.

There are also still the games, toys, and the recent theme park attraction, that can feature Code Lyoko and allow it to live on in other ways.

They aren't giving up the property in any sense of the word. They are merely ending the main storyline. ^^

I could not have said it better myself. *highfives TimeKitten*

*highfives back*

*sighs* Again, I can understand why you guys are upset about the show ending, but honestly...have a little compassion for the people who worked so hard to make it for us. Did any of you stop to consider that they simply might be "tired"? Creating an animated show takes a lot of work and dedication from a lot of people (animators, writers, editors, sound technicians, VAs, directors, composers...and that's just the tip of the iceberg). They brought us 4 amazing seasons...what if they'd like to take a break and/or work on something else? Would you guys want them forced into a 5th season that they didn't want to do (or didn't have the energy to do), just to please your fancy?

Indeed. Some forget all the time and effort required for our 30 minutes pleasure. Creating an animated series, and a 2D/3D combo at that, can take months of work for a few completed episodes. Not saying the fans are selfish for constantly asking for more, and I'm not saying the makers are sick and tired of working on the show. Just that fans should to at least understand and respect the reasons throughout the show and it's ending. Particularly if those fans just want more to see one simple kiss, as if to confirm a relationship that's so freakin' obvious But I disgress.

Ditto that.

I can totally understand why the fans want more, and I don't blame them for wanting more. However, the fact that we "want more" is not to be looked upon as a blemish on MoonScoop's creative team's decision to not continue Code Lyoko, but instead as a plus, a strength even.

"Always leave them wanting more," as the saying goes. ^_^

I would not say the fans are selfish, nor would I say the creative team that worked on CL are "sick and tired" of working on it. (Although they might be tired...in a good way, sort of tired...like when you finish a masterpiece and love how it comes out, but are totally mentally exhausted kind of tired. ^^)

As you said though, it would be nice if there was a little bit more respect and/or understanding towards towards this decision by the fandom. *nods*

a fifth season would be nice to find out more about Franz Hopper but since in episode 94 xana was destroyed and in episode 95 they shut down the supercomputer it would have no plot.

As was said before, there are possible plans to make a few special episodes that explain more about Franz Hopper's past, but we will have to wait and see if such a thing actually happens. No new full seasons however, are planned. ^^;


Also, I see you're new here. Why not make a Newbie thread for yourself and formally introduce yourself to the forum? ^^ It's a great way to start making new acquaintances here.

In addition to that, might I also suggest that you review are Rules, as LF does have a couple unique ones to it, particularly regarding spelling and grammar in posts.

Thanks!

[MY85 offline]

As you said though, it would be nice if there was a little bit more respect and/or understanding towards towards this decision by the fandom. *nods*

When I think about it, since the day I got into the CL fandom on the Internet, I've never seen people heavily obsessed over a cartoon that seemed to be only a very huge success in one country. It was something impressive back then, but also the CL fandom was the first fandom I got into with more dedication to it.

Dunno if anyone understands what I'm saying...

[Taelia offline]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark

This is how some fans feel about CL's credibility.

[Jeremified offline]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark

This is how some fans feel about CL's credibility.

I think the show stayed very real until they sent the Lyoko warriors to Earth in their Lyokon form.

[Overcaffeinated Sloth offline]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark

This is how some fans feel about CL's credibility.

By some fans you mean... you.

[MY85 offline]

Code Lyoko did had its fair share of "jumping the shark" moments. Season 2 caused a few fans to abandon the show. Season 3 did more damage. Season 4 also has their JTS moments.

I still watched it in hopes of Moonscoop ending it at 4 seasons.

[Tangent128 offline]

I still watched it in hopes of Moonscoop ending it at 4 seasons.

...you watched it hoping you wouldn't have to watch it anymore? Macabre...

If a show jumps the shark multiple times, doesn't that mean it's jumping back every other time?


I'd like to see a show set in the CL universe, but completely unrelated plot-wise. Surely Project Carthage produced other wackos...

[Sithking Zero offline]

I wouldn't like to see a new group of kids, or even their decendants.

That would just be like too many really bad fanfictions.

I also wouldn't like XANA to come back, because that would be cliche'd. Anyone who has ever read James the Lesser's Code Lyoko fics knows what i'm talking about.

I think that season five should be a prequel season. To show all about project Carthage, and Aelita and Franz before the show.

[Taelia offline]

There is no season 5.

[timekitten offline]

Code Lyoko did had its fair share of "jumping the shark" moments. Season 2 caused a few fans to abandon the show. Season 3 did more damage. Season 4 also has their JTS moments.

I would be very interested in knowing where you get these facts, or if that's just your view on it.